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SUPERDJ
Jan 10th, 2012, 08:48 PM
Hi all was thinking today how i want my mini 230bhp and am in proccess of ordering the intercooler and pulley kit and remap but was wondering how easy it would be to get that extra 20bhp and get it to 250bhp as would really like it rounded off at 250bhp if not too much trouble


Thanks. Damian.

Hartge220
Jan 10th, 2012, 09:03 PM
Ring Thomas or Paul at 1320 Mini - Mini Parts - Mini Performance Parts (http://www.1320mini.co.uk) & ask about 550 injectors/Catcam/tune :wink:

Not too much trouble except for the cost :p

marque
Jan 10th, 2012, 09:09 PM
Hi

What spec and mods do you have fitted at the moment.
It's quite a lot of work and money to get 250bhp from a gen 1 and for it to be reliable.
Let us know we can guide you in the right direction.

SUPERDJ
Jan 10th, 2012, 09:49 PM
Hi thanks for replying and currently i have a alta induction and manifold decat and catback system on atm waiting for payday to get my grs intercooler then pulley soon i had a printout of just under 170bhp when it was bog stantard.... Dont no how to say im not fused about money without sounding like a spoilt kid lol but live at home with parents and have well payed job so blast it all on the mini ;)

Hartge220
Jan 10th, 2012, 09:58 PM
Good man, wish I was in your position :wink:

Have a browse on the 'project cars' thread on MiniTorque.com - Welcome (http://www.minitorque.com), plenty of cars tuned to 250bhp & above on there, loads of tuning/suspension/braking/styling info.

Where are you based?

SUPERDJ
Jan 10th, 2012, 10:36 PM
Lol and sweet will have a look pal and i live in leicestershire not really alot of places that do minis only really graham goode and they wanted like 1500 to get it to 210 now i may be young but i have a brain and thats just stupid lol

marque
Jan 10th, 2012, 10:43 PM
Hi ok

To be honest and no disrespect but if you only have an induction kit and decat and cat back, I would be very surprised if you put it on the dyno now if it was over 185 to 190 bhp.
Most r53 MCS with a 15% pulley, decat, cat back, 380cc/440cc injectors, big intercooler, induction kit and remap push anywhere between 200 to 230 ish bhp.

To get to 250 bhp you need the following to start with if you have a strong engine to start with.

Induction kit
Big valve and flowed cylinder head CNC.co.uk or a big valve thumper
Camshaft
Bigger injectors
Adjustable fuel pressure regulator
Decat and cat back
Smaller SC pulley may be 17% Plus belt But I would poss go 15% let you rev it more.
Lighter crank pulley
Gen 5 super charger
MSD coil and leads and good set of spark plugs
Bigger top mounted intercooler GRS motor sport version or even front mounted GRS intercooler
Bigger/ reworked throtal body
Wide band O2 sensor
Reworked bypass valve plus VGS mod
Limited slip diff
Better clutch and fly wheel
Oil cooler
May be a better radiator
remap

We are talking lots of dosh anyway that will give you a good start just remember one bit always effects the other.
Good luck it seems like you got the bug like the rest of use :-) keep us up today and lots of pictures :-) good luck

Hartge220
Jan 10th, 2012, 10:50 PM
Lol and sweet will have a look pal and i live in leicestershire not really alot of places that do minis only really graham goode and they wanted like 1500 to get it to 210 now i may be young but i have a brain and thats just stupid lol

You're not that far from 1320, very reasonable prices, they'll tailor a tuning package to your budget & won't force you into buying mods you don't/won't need:wink:.

They've had customers come from as far afield as Belgium/Slovenia/Holland & Northern Ireland, a very well respected tuning company within the MINI world, & a forum sponsor on here too:).

SUPERDJ
Jan 11th, 2012, 07:40 AM
Hi ok

To be honest and no disrespect but if you only have an induction kit and decat and cat back, I would be very surprised if you put it on the dyno now if it was over 185 to 190 bhp.
Most r53 MCS with a 15% pulley, decat, cat back, 380cc/440cc injectors, big intercooler, induction kit and remap push anywhere between 200 to 230 ish bhp.

To get to 250 bhp you need the following to start with if you have a strong engine to start with.

Induction kit
Big valve and flowed cylinder head CNC.co.uk or a big valve thumper
Camshaft
Bigger injectors
Adjustable fuel pressure regulator
Decat and cat back
Smaller SC pulley may be 17% Plus belt But I would poss go 15% let you rev it more.
Lighter crank pulley
Gen 5 super charger
MSD coil and leads and good set of spark plugs
Bigger top mounted intercooler GRS motor sport version or even front mounted GRS intercooler
Bigger/ reworked throtal body
Wide band O2 sensor
Reworked bypass valve plus VGS mod
Limited slip diff
Better clutch and fly wheel
Oil cooler
May be a better radiator
remap

We are talking lots of dosh anyway that will give you a good start just remember one bit always effects the other.
Good luck it seems like you got the bug like the rest of use :-) keep us up today and lots of pictures :-) good luck

Hii :) thanks and i know i wont be at 190 yet am getting a 17% and grs version intercooler dont want a front mount dont like the pipes and dont want to loose a/c in the cab and yeah i very much have the bug and that list youv just put is my shopping list now lol well some of it anyway ;) and will post pics as soon as i can so you can all see my pride and joy and defo got the bug off my older brother hes been tampering with cars all my life lol

SUPERDJ
Jan 11th, 2012, 07:44 AM
You're not that far from 1320, very reasonable prices, they'll tailor a tuning package to your budget & won't force you into buying mods you don't/won't need:wink:.

They've had customers come from as far afield as Belgium/Slovenia/Holland & Northern Ireland, a very well respected tuning company within the MINI world, & a forum sponsor on here too:).

Sweet sounds good will defo have a look today thanks alot really greatful for everyones responses :)

SUPERDJ
Jan 11th, 2012, 09:15 AM
Iv heard of methonal injection what is peoples thoughts of that???

Thankyouu

Hartge220
Jan 11th, 2012, 09:31 AM
Thread about it on MiniTorque Water Meth (http://www.minitorque.com/forum/f24/water-meth-16327/index3.html)

SUPERDJ
Jan 11th, 2012, 10:18 AM
Looks complicated and a big debate issue lol

Hartge220
Jan 11th, 2012, 10:30 AM
As far as I know only a couple of people run it in the UK, you can still make big power without it :wink:

SUPERDJ
Jan 11th, 2012, 11:21 AM
Yeah defo dout i was going to get it just didnt no alot about it really will get my mini to 230 and see from there on what my opions are on getting any more power if wanted

Hartge220
Jan 11th, 2012, 11:30 AM
Don't forget your brakes too, the more power you have you'll probably have to start thinking of a brake upgrade.

This modding lark can work out expensive :biggrin:

SUPERDJ
Jan 11th, 2012, 12:07 PM
Haha yeah ino my gf was tallying it up last night and was shocked on how much iv spent and going to spent her thinking was i could of spent that on her lol but i was looking a some k-sport 6pots think they were 330mm brembo are just the same but 1200 more exspensive seems like you just pay for the name really lol well thats my thinking ;)

Hartge220
Jan 11th, 2012, 12:14 PM
Check out the classified ads on all the MINI forums, lots of bargains to be had when people put their cars back to stock for selling/part exing:wink:

SUPERDJ
Jan 11th, 2012, 12:17 PM
Yeah will look is the jcw brakes alryt or is it just better to upgrade bigger better lol

Hartge220
Jan 11th, 2012, 12:34 PM
The JCW brakes are ok, with a good set of pads even better :biggrin:.

I got a very good deal (:wink:) on a brand new Brembo BBK full set (front & rear) from an R56 JCW, it would have been rude not to get them :p. Great set of stoppers, worked brilliant on track & superb on the road too, + they look good :p
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/Hartge220/2010_0324MiniAdams0011-1.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/Hartge220/2010_0324MiniAdams0019.jpg

SUPERDJ
Jan 11th, 2012, 12:39 PM
Wow they doo look rarther sexy ;) and what size are your wheels as iv got 17" on mine will post pics of my car when i get home from work :) And if you dont mind me asking how much did you pay for the brakes?

Hartge220
Jan 11th, 2012, 12:42 PM
Wheels are 17"

From my very bad memory I think it was £550 for the brakes, I didn't ask where they came from:wink:

SUPERDJ
Jan 11th, 2012, 12:45 PM
Ahh reet sound hopfully get some dont no weather to get them ones as doo look nice or some k-sport big 6pots have to think about that one coz defo gotta change um but not yet as sytners put full discs and pads all round when got the car off them 6month ago so want to get my moneys worth first lol