I'll put them up when i get home from work.

Yeah, i concur - my untuned JCW 210 only hit 197 on a rolling road - at the same session Rolands car hit 273......

Lots of trick that you can learb - pump the tyres up to 50lbs pressure and all of a sudden you have 20+ more bhp.... :eek:

Great thanks Jove

Hey guys,

I had my Mini cooper s on the drag strip yesterday.....

Location: Crail Raceway (Scotland)

¼ Mile Time: 14.578 sec
Reaction Time: 0.792
60ft Time: 2.372
Max Speed: 97.4 mph

It was a pretty hot day, very hot for Scotland, was around 15 degrees and above.

Engine Mods: Alta CAI, Alta 15% reduced S/C pulley, GTT intercooler, GTT manifold, GTT de-cap pipe, Milltek exhaust.

Willie

- MCS JCW with Madness JCW intake filter kit (+flap mod)
- GTT Manifold
- 17" OZ Superturismo + 215/40/17 Goodyear Eagle F1s
- 3/4 tank of Shell V-Power Racing, only driver in the car

Temperature +30C

Best four runs (0-60mph):
6.07
6.06
5.95
6.09

Avg. 6.04s

All with GTech Pro

Ps. Wonder how much better results I'd get in say +10C...?

For those who have experimented with it, what are your thoughts on the best launch technique in the MINI? Traction control off obviously, but what next? Is it better to gradually slip the clutch, or just drop it and live with the wheelspin? What revs to start with?

Personally I seem to get best results with launches at about 3500-4000 rpms and by slipping the clutch a little to allow the tyres to grip. But I am also curious to hear what the drag strip stars have to say on this;)

But I am not sure what this launch technique has done to the life expectancy of my clutch:eek:

Shakespere County Raceway.
British Mini Showdown
Saturday
Temp: 24C

60 2.383
330 6.297
MPH1 76.63
660 9.50959
990 12.195
MPH2 97.10
1320 14.58113

I just worked out that my 0-60 is 5.8 seconds from the above results.

You can view my profile for my car spec. Its a JCW and GTT with a few odds 'n sods.

I take-off at 1500rpm like I do when I leave traffic lights. Higher rpm take-offs dont work well for me.

Shakespeare Raceway
Same running day as above


60ft - 2.359
330ft - 6.214
MPH1 - 79.97
660ft - 9.32704
990ft - 11.906
MPH2 - 100.99
1320ft - 14.21859

Mods are 15% pulley, CAI, Mani, Back Box and GRS Intercooler! could be a 13sec car if i dont run 16"s on curddy runfalts and let some air outa them!

They lost my best time at showdown, so will post next best. if i get photographic evidence (haha) I'll post my 1320 and terminal but the 1320 gang and BRMCooper saw it

'04 prefacelift cooper works running 205/40/18

60ft - 2.746
330ft - 7.214
MPH1 - 64.68
660ft - 10.958
990ft - 14.141
MPH2 - 82.23
1320ft - 16.97

0-60 time measured using a gtechpro.

1st run = 6.47 wheel spin, had to lift slightly
2nd run = 6.14 still little wheel spin
3rd run = 5.92 perfect launch

1 passenger and 1/2 tank of 99 octane fuel
19-20 degrees

(0-60 times done before all mods listed below were done. Need to test again as I have fitted JCW air intake +injectors, exhaust and had remapped)

Mods to my 2005 MCS are:

JCW air filter box
JCW exhaust
JCW injectors
JCW remap
MED engineering 15% pulley + reduced belt

Car is now very fast, not much keeps up

Mini one, Amd one-click, K&N 57i cone filter with heat surround.

-Quarter tank of petrol,
-One passenger,
-Air temp - 11c,
-Budget performance tyres.

Best 0-60 with Gtech pro was 8.63. Don't think I could get the start much better. About 4500 revs, slip the clutch a little to hold the revs, no spin and a quick gear change.

Just one question, how does the Gtech no when your doing 60? It seems pretty accurate as it wasn't stopping untill my speedo was at about 65mph which takes into account the over read of around 10% on speedo.

Sam

04 Mini One

Cooper ecu, Mini Mania 421 ex manifold, 6 spd Cooper S gearbox conversion ally flywheel, 205 -15 BFG drag radials

60ft 2.343
330ft 6.709
660ft 10.345
MPH 67.16
990ft 13.398
1/4 16.137
MPH 84.87

- MCS JCW with Madness JCW intake filter kit (+flap mod)
- GTT Manifold
- 17" OZ Superturismo + 215/40/17 Goodyear Eagle F1s
- 3/4 tank of Shell V-Power Racing, only driver in the car

Temperature +30C

Best four runs (0-60mph):
6.07
6.06
5.95
6.09

Avg. 6.04s

All with GTech Pro



Same as above, plus:
- GTT Overdrive Crank shaft pulley
- GTT Modified bypass valve
- GTT IC + Snoot boots
- Eibach springs
Conditions
- 1/8 tank of Shell V-Power Racing, only driver in the car, temperature 23C

Best four runs (0-60mph, all with GTech Pro):
6.09
5.97
6.03
5.98

Avg 6.02

Some observations/thoughts:

- Interestingly, I forgot to turn off the AC during the first few runs and averaged at least 0.15s more! :eek::eek: Either the AC is really stealing quite a bit of power or there is something wrong with my AC (it IS louder now than it used to be...)

- Hmm...the car was now lighter (1/8 vs 3/4 tank), has quite a bit if new kit installed and the weather was cooler. Regardless of these factors, I averaged virtually the same/only marginally better 0-60 results in the same test spot with the same driver. Not what I expected to see. I thought that I would have been around 5.8-5.9s mark. I had some clutch issues earlier that robbed some power, but just had a brand new OEM clutch installed - can't blame that either. I might be paranoid but I felt that there was a kind of flat spot around 4000-4600rpm, but hard to say for sure.

Booked in for a dyno test for tomorrow...:hmph:

Aahh...that's much better!

5.93
6.00
5.79
5.86

avg 5.90:D (temp 24C, 1/4 tank and otherwise same as before)

I just refused to believe that I won't do sub 6 secs average. Emptied the car from ALL unnecessary stuff and lowered the front tire pressures from 2,3bar to 2,2bar. Perhaps this did the trick or maybe my new clutch just needed to be broken in...

Beginning to think that the good results in 30C heat had to do with the tires being more grippy in the heat?

Same as above, plus:
- GTT Overdrive Crank shaft pulley
- GTT Modified bypass valve
- GTT IC + Snoot boots
- Eibach springs
Conditions
- 1/8 tank of Shell V-Power Racing, only driver in the car, temperature 23C

Best four runs (0-60mph, all with GTech Pro):
6.09
5.97
6.03
5.98

Avg 6.02

Some observations/thoughts:

- Interestingly, I forgot to turn off the AC during the first few runs and averaged at least 0.15s more! :eek::eek: Either the AC is really stealing quite a bit of power or there is something wrong with my AC (it IS louder now than it used to be...)

- Hmm...the car was now lighter (1/8 vs 3/4 tank), has quite a bit if new kit installed and the weather was cooler. Regardless of these factors, I averaged virtually the same/only marginally better 0-60 results in the same test spot with the same driver. Not what I expected to see. I thought that I would have been around 5.8-5.9s mark. I had some clutch issues earlier that robbed some power, but just had a brand new OEM clutch installed - can't blame that either. I might be paranoid but I felt that there was a kind of flat spot around 4000-4600rpm, but hard to say for sure.

Booked in for a dyno test for tomorrow...:hmph:


Hmmm, I'm not surprised that you saw little or no improvement with these mods. The overdrive crank pulley isnt necessarily going to give you much more grunt low down anyway.

A better test for these mods would have been in gear acceleration between 30-110mph, in lets say 4th gear. I bet you would have seen a serious reduction in times. The crank pulley would give you much more torque low down the rev range, but not necessarily more horsepower.

I bet your car is faster on the road in everyday driving terms now - like overtaking. No need to stir the gearbox so much, and a fat lump of torque available when you need it most....?

Hmmm, I'm not surprised that you saw little or no improvement with these mods. The overdrive crank pulley isnt necessarily going to give you much more grunt low down anyway.

A better test for these mods would have been in gear acceleration between 30-110mph, in lets say 4th gear. I bet you would have seen a serious reduction in times. The crank pulley would give you much more torque low down the rev range, but not necessarily more horsepower.

I bet your car is faster on the road in everyday driving terms now - like overtaking. No need to stir the gearbox so much, and a fat lump of torque available when you need it most....?

Well, you are right that in 0-60 launches you mostly spend your time in the 4000-7000 rev range. Here my impression is that the manifold played the biggest role - the crank pulley probably less as you suggested.

My main concern was just that the 0-60 results looked to be getting rather worse than better (about same results with lighter car and lower temps WITH all the mods). This raised the question of what is going on with my car.

You always feel the difference very well right after the mods are done - this was certainly the case after my GTT visit. The car's responsiveness at mid range was clearly better and especially at highway speeds you could really feel the torque as well. But give it a month or two and you get used to it (butt dyno calibration needed?:D). When I got some suspicious results after my clutch work I got a bit paranoid and assumed that some of the original conversion ponies got lost.

I am not sure what the other guys are getting with 220-230hp, but I guess 5.9secs average should be in the right ball park? I really do not have a place to check 1/4 mile results here to compare:(

Sam

5.9 is pretty good :) But since 0-60 is a pretty pointless test of power in a modified MINI and more about traction then id say post up some 3rd or 4th gear time between speed tests for us to compare. :) Will be interesting to see if im doing good or bad too! lol

Face lift Copper S

Run at Shakespeare county

standing quater (1320) 14.58 sec
terminal speed 98.60

Hope this works an its readable:D Im sure we could have broken the back of 14.5 an had some more MPH yesterday at pod if the wind wasnt so darn strong.

Ok the attchment hasent worked, so here goes

Reaction +5.220
60ft 2.3219
330ft 6.2230
1/8 ET 9.5220
1/8 mph74.16
1000et 12.2700
1/4ET 14.7671
1/4 MPH 93.14

For anyone that can fix the attachment an make it readable please do

Hi there everyone,

Anyway was nice to meet you yesterday Loui! It was a really fun day!

My time on the 1/4 mile was:

Reaction - .6880
60ft - 2.3820
330ft - 6.3098
1/8 ET - 9.6140
1/8 MPH - 74.63
1000' ET - 12.3560
1/4 ET - 14.8388
1/4 MPH - 93.96

This is on a 2004 Face Lift MCS with 15% pulley, Iridium spark plugs, Alta pannel filter, and MiniMania 4-2-1 exhaust manifold.

Is this a good time i got?

Alex

Hi there everyone,

Anyway was nice to meet you yesterday Loui! It was a really fun day!

My time on the 1/4 mile was:

Reaction - .6880
60ft - 2.3820
330ft - 6.3098
1/8 ET - 9.6140
1/8 MPH - 74.63
1000' ET - 12.3560
1/4 ET - 14.8388
1/4 MPH - 93.96

This is on a 2004 Face Lift MCS with 15% pulley, Iridium spark plugs, Alta pannel filter, and MiniMania 4-2-1 exhaust manifold.

Is this a good time i got?

Alex

Dosent sound bad to me Alex was nice to meet you too, also dont forget about the head wind

Yeah the head wind was pretty strong so that may have made quite a difference to your 1/4 mile times and speed.

Alex

With very bad front tyres (wheelspin) I have about 6.1 sec to 60 mph and about 14.5 sec to 1/4 mile and 99-100mph speed.

I measured with g-tech pro. I will try all that with better tyres. It must go much better, because in 1st I can not put more than 50% of throttle to not get a wheelspin. :):D

02-long gearbox

A few mods on the car.

Ran my 2004 MCS (48,000 miles) for the first time at the track today at my other car club's dragstrip rental at Cordova, (http://www.cordovadrag.com/page/track_info.html) IL. Only mods to my car are as follows:
Stock airbox "honeycombed" w/ K&N panel filter, 1 ball exhaust, and Rota 16" Slipstreams with Nitto NeoGen 205/50/16's.

My MCS has no sunroof, no package groups, and cloth seats. I imagine it's one of the lighter ones out there since it has no options. I took my floormats out, but that's the extent of the weight removal. :dark:

Temps were in the 50's and sunny when I made my best run at noon, although it was in the 30's for our drive out to the track early in the morning (Brrrr!!! :yellow: ). Barometric pressure was great (30.2) as well.
Weather conditions for the day:
History : Weather Underground (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KCWI/2007/11/3/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA)


Here are my first four runs that I did within the span of an hour:

11:27 AM
60': 2.397
1/8: 9.806
1/8 mph: 73.91
1/4: 15.077
1/4 mph: 93.08

11:31 AM
60': 2.485
1/8: 9.805
1/8 mph: 74.54
1/4: 15.052
1/4 mph: 93.69

12:02 PM
60': 2.388
1/8: 9.720
1/8 mph: 74.26
1/4: 14.952
1/4 mph: 93.82

12:26 PM
60': 2.413
1/8: 9.847
1/8 mph: 74.12
1/4: 15.099
1/4 mph: 93.42

My 3 other passes later in the day (2:15, 2:30, 3:00) all had worse 60' times (2.45-2.50) and the results were 15.194 @ 92.63 mph, 15.206 @ 92.68 mph, and 15.336 @ 92.64 mph.

I avoided the water box, and just did a small burnout to clean off the tires before coming up to the line. I was typically bringing the rpms up to the 2500 range, and then slipping the clutch while going WOT. Mostly it just chirped the tires a little and went, but bogged two runs, and spun a bit on two other passes.

Most of my runs were against a stock 2007 MCS. He was trapping 94.0-95.2 mph consistently, but he was having more trouble with his 60's (typically in the 2.5 range). His best ET as I left for the day was a 14.85, and he ran a 14.952 on the same run that I hit a 14.952 (weird to see the EXACT same ET on a timeslip!). He was typically creeping up on me slowly as we crossed the finish line (evidenced by his .5 to 1.5 faster mph on our runs).

All in all, I was very impressed by my 2004 MCS for the few mods that are done to it. I probably won't be able to resist putting a pulley on it, but will probably wait until springtime to do so. :dark:

2003 MCS with Lohen 225, Janspeed Manifold & Teflon charger.
Weight inc driver: 2989lbs/1355kg

+.4940 Reaction
2.4831 - 60ft
6.4299 - 330ft
9.6541 - 1/8 @ 76.38
12.3431 - 1000
1/4 Mile - 14.7758 @ 95.61

Not bad for a salad dodger!

Hello guys, I finally get new tyres and try it out again.
That's all with G-TECH PRO.

1/4m 14.209seconds, speed 101,21 mph

60' 2,447s
330' 6,213s
1/8m 9,315s and 81,81mph
1000' 11,972s

0-60mph - 5,635s
0-100mph - 13,701s

The outisde temp was about 0 °C.

The car is 2002 year with the longer gearbox. The tyres are 205/40 R17.

The head is stil original. :)
I am waiting for the KMT one this winter.

Bye

Some new run at 3°C and without back seats.

http://www.moj-album.com/slike/933695/5YCSg3VE39MJvYLw.jpg

Fisherwhy does the start line start before 0? Cool times the best we managed with a stock head at 2468lb was 13.25 at 102.5 on slicks

Fisherwhy does the start line start before 0? Cool times the best we managed with a stock head at 2468lb was 13.25 at 102.5 on slicks

You won't believe but today I have see the same strange thing. I have looked all my graphs and all starts before 0.

Then I go on the internet and find out that http://share.icefireracing.com/blog/aurora_project/1.jpg
I am not sure, but I think it's normal like I see. I have the graphs with other cars too and are the same.

What was the time on 60ft with slicks?