The other day when i finished work at about 9pm - i drove my favorite bit of road home. I know the road well and whilst i dont like speeding (too much) i do like the corners. The temp was 8 degrees and the road was dry and very quiet.

I thought id put mickey (MCSC) through his paces a little and went fairly hard into a right hand bend at about 45. To my amazement, the back end went out! :eek: This hasant worried me really but i wondered why it happened. The corner wasant too sharp i suppose it was about 30 - 35 degree angle.

Does anyone think there might be a cause for this?

Did you lift off the throttle a bit?

*hit the corner far too fast.

*brake hard into the corner.

Voila! Lift Off Oversteer

Works every time for me :D :D :D

Max :D :red:

That's not lift off oversteer ;)

Lift off oversteer is when the ar$e end swings out because you lifted off the throttle. You've just described "braking into a corner" which is far nastier :D

:p;P:)

That's not lift off oversteer ;)

Lift off oversteer is when the ar$e end swings out because you lifted off the throttle. You've just described "braking into a corner" which is far nastier :D

:p;P:)

you tell him buttons, old fool :rolleyes:

you might have to speak up though

Isn't he describing lift-off understeer? ;)

he's demonstrating old-age overconfusion :p

LOL@This Thread :p

oppps! :eek:

what ever it is technically called i refer to it as stepping the rear out and drifting :rolleyes:

lift off oversteer, more commonly known as SHEET! HOW DID THAT HAPPEN! lol :)

Cheers for all the explanations anyway guys - guessed i might of done something wrong as I approached and continue on the mini learning curve!! :)

Hat et al :D

obviously after you brake hard into the bend you then power off the throttle to step the back end out :rolleyes:

It's my "party piece" on any track when I have a passenger :eek: :o

Did it with Dave (Boy Racer) at Brunty last month. :eek:

Wicked :D :D :D


If you've been braking into a bend then you wouldn't be on the throttle anyway :confused: and if you're not on the throttle, then you can't power off any more :confused: can you?

"Lift-off Oversteer" is when you go into a bend/corner with a bit of speed and during the corner you "lift-off" the throttle sharply and completely. The subsequent weight shift can, in some cars, cause the rear to swing out.... voila: "Lift-off oversteer". Some front-wheel-drive cars do it and some don't. Some are nice and controlled at it (like the Mini) and some aren't (Pug 205!). Try it if you want, it's fun in the right circumstances and dangerous in the wrong circumstances ;).