I know... what are we gonna do every Sunday night now http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment90340.jpg http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment91928.jpg

There's still good old SBS ;)

There's still good old SBS ;)
But it aint F1 http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment91928.jpg

Nope, it certainly aint. (just as well actually)

lol, Flavio almost drops it http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment91928.jpg

It will be interesting to follow the testing times over the summer, so many new combinations of engines, drivers, treams etc.

awww, I wanted to hear from the drivers.

What? - no interviews! Bloody CH 10.

It will be interesting to follow the testing times over the summer, so many new combinations or engines, drivers, treams etc.
yeah for sure!

I think they were saying the new setups are currently 4-8 seconds slower per lap where they have been tested.

Not to say yet tho... early days.

Night night Scotty, great to watch with you as always.

What? - no interviews! Bloody CH 10.
VERY peeved at that.

Feckin last race, and they cut it... http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment92113.jpg

I'll post the conference later when it goes up http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment90336.jpg

Night night Scotty, great to watch with you as always.
haha, you too mate.

yup, G'Night Tom http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment91928.jpg

Ohhhh, I missed the F1!?! Must have been cause I was busy else where...




at the MOTO GP!!! :D

It was awesome... I have never been to the MOTO GP before and not Phillip Island... the track is great for spectators! We went all around the track to find the best/least crowded spot, but settled for a position near Lukey Heights where you could see around past the Hay shed or what ever they call it... I was disappointed to see Stoner go out, but happy to see Chris Vermeulen go very well for his first ride in MOTO GP!

I'm a Rossi fan from way back (yeah not a freakin bandwagon getter onera!) I've been ther since his first win in 125cc :D SO I WAS ECSTATIC!!

We high tailed it from the top of the circuit and ran though the car park and left so easily... it took us bugger al time to get home... we took the Sorrento ferry this morning, but after being slabbed $52 to get on, I thought that was BS, so we drove home!

We got free tickets from a client to go, so that was totally sweet! Gota love the perks :p

The weather was perfect, the sun was magic all day! I have a white line across my face from my sunnies and the rest of my face is black :D Bit of a cool breeze from the sea though...

Todd

Oh yeah!

They had BMW M3, M5 & M6 course cars... both the M5 & M6 in white with chrome stickers on the side of them... the M6 sounds THE BEST!!! Man... the carbon fibre roof looks sensational!

Todd

Motogp was pretty good... CV put in a good effort I thought being his first time in the premier class.

I was pretty happy with F1 too... now we just have to look forward to next year...

I think that Webber has been putting in some pretty strong performances in the last few rounds and hopefully will be able to challenge with the Cosworth next year

Well It's all over for 2005, no more sleepy Mondays! I look forward to 2006 with all the new driver/team combos, and V8s.

I reckon the Holdens will cane them with all their extra development work. :p

As we didnt see any of it on tele...

TV Unilaterals

Q. Fernando, I think the singing on the radio said it all – ‘We are the Champions'.

Fernando Alonso: Yes, I think for the team it has been a fantastic season but we arrived in the last race with two points only ahead of McLaren and we pushed the car a little bit, the chassis side and the engine side, to win the Constructors'. It was not crucial but quite important for the team for the motivation for next year and thanks to the team we are here.

Q. It looked from your point of view a perfect race, everything went to plan, were you on the radio talking about a bit of understeer and putting more wing on at the first stop?

FA: No, the opposite, a little bit of oversteer and dropping a bit of front wing at the stop. Apart from that the car was perfect, all weekend it has been perfect. We only showed our potential in qualifying, putting all the power in the engine and a little bit in the first stint and that's all, I think. After that we ran with very low revs, Kimi was far behind and it was probably the easiest race of the year.

Q. Your emotions now on winning this second championship. You and Kimi have finished seven-all in terms of race victories but both championships have gone to you.

FA: Yeah, I think it was a good season for us, all through the year. We won all the races at the beginning and then we had some steps in the engine and the car but we didn't take any risks because the gap was far enough to keep the distance and we showed here if we want to put a little more risk, if we want to beat McLaren, we can do it. I am a little bit frustrated that I only won seven races, the same as Kimi, because I think the car had the potential, as we saw here in the last race, to win 10 or 11 races.

Q. Kimi, a difficult race for you. I would guess. Early on you were chasing Giancarlo Fisichella, what was the situation then from your point of view?

Kimi Raikkonen: I don't really know, the car was not quick enough. It was not difficult to drive but it just wasn't quick at the start of the race but at the end of the race it got quicker and quicker and it was perfect but unfortunately it came about 40 laps too late so I was not able to do anything any more. I did my best but it wasn't enough today and the Renault was too quick, our congratulations to them and next year we try again.

Q. The safety car came out just as the Renaults were coming in for fuel, did that nullify your fuel advantage, do you think you could have picked up more pace had the safety car not come out?

KR: I don't know, it is always easy to say afterwards but it doesn't change anything so I don't really know.

Q. Your teammate Juan Pablo Montoya right behind you hit that manhole cover, did you see any problem with the manhole cover in the lap before?

KR: I saw it a little bit, it was out of place and next time I came around it was sticking up. I missed it and I guess he ran a little bit wider and hit it so it is unfortunate for him and for the team but in the end I don't think it would have made any difference in the championship, so we pushed as hard as we could but today was not our day, so we will try next year.

Q. And in the closing stages of the race you had three cars in front of you who didn't stop in the second safety car period. What was it like after that, when racing re-commenced for you?

KR: It was okay, after the last safety car the car was much better, much quicker and they were pulling away a little bit from me but they were lighter and we knew they needed to stop so I wasn't worried about it. It was only a bit disappointing to see that I couldn't do anything any more, it was too late to try to catch Alonso, so it was easy for them but that is racing and the season could have been worse, so it is alright to go on holiday now and have some fun.

Q. Ralf, a second podium finish of the year, a great call to stay out there and you made good use of it, pulled out a lot of time and here you are on the podium.

Ralf Schumacher: Yeah, we had a very difficult weekend in the way the car was really difficult in the beginning and even in qualifying, and then we were a bit lucky with the safety car, this time lucky, last time not, so it paid off, and yeah, the team had a good strategy, the pit stops were brilliant so it worked out.

Q. How good was the car at the end, because in qualifying you were complaining about the understeer at that point, how was the handling at that stage in the race?

RS: The car was, basically after the first pit stop, handling well, especially after the second safety car. It was incredible, and I was able to follow Fernando although I knew he was on more fuel. Still I was able to pull out the gap I needed, so it was just very good.

Q. Fernando, returning to you, you have won both championships, so it is time for a summary of the season and your feelings about your racing with Kimi this year, as we said, seven-all, it has been a phenomenal season of competition between you two guys.

FA: Yeah, it was pressure for me to fight with Kimi this year, a lot of respect from each other and I think it was a nice fight. At the beginning I had a better car, in the middle of the season he had a better car with more mechanical problems than me, so I won the Drivers' Championship a little bit before the end and now, as I said before, we proved we had something in the pocket at the last part of the season. We didn't put in the car because there was no reason so I am very happy and confident for next year as well because the potential is here in the team. Press Conference

Q. Fernando, it must be great to feel you have got the job totally done now.

FA: Yes, now it is also to the team, the World Championship, and for us the whole season has been a dream come true. For Renault even more so because it is the fourth year after the team came to Formula One and we are World Champions. So I think it is not an easy job to do and thanks to all the people, how good they are, how professional they are, we are here.

Q. Today did you feel the safety car worked for you?

FA: No, I think I was a bit unlucky with the safety car. I had a 20-second gap and it disappeared after the safety car. I think a lot of people were surprised how long we could go in the first part without the safety car, probably longer than the McLaren for the first time, and also I am a little bit sad because we didn't prove that.

Q. And how was the car today, do you feel it was quicker than the McLarens?

FA: I think so, all weekend we have been a little bit quicker but we didn't use any of the potential that came from the new engine, we put only for qualifying, with maybe more fuel than the people thought and we did first row. I think also in the race I pushed a little bit in the first part and then I really turned down the revs because Montoya was out and even for the team second and third was enough to win, so we really chilled out.

Q. So you werre reduced revs for the rest of the race?

FA: Yeah, from lap 30 or so, the last 20 laps were really, really low revs because Montoya was out.

Q. Kimi, you were quite confident yesterday but not the result you wanted today.

KR: I thought we would be a little bit quicker. The car was handling pretty OK at the beginning of the race but it just wasn't quick enough. I don't really know why because it has been pretty good all weekend. In the end it got very good but it was 40 laps too late so I couldn't do anything else. I tried my best and got fastest lap but in the end it doesn't make any difference. Anyhow, the whole team did the best that they could but the Renault was quicker today so they deserved the championship this year and we will try again next year.

Q. Very disappointed?

KR: It doesn't really change my season much. OK, it would have been nice to win but it's not really… OK a bit disappointing in one way that we didn't win any championships this year but then this one in the last race doesn't make much difference.

Q. The second stop was vital for you to get ahead of Giancarlo.

KR: Yeah, we had more fuel anyhow before so their stop was shorter and then, I don't know if he needed to wait a little while or not but I was okay, the team did a great stop and I got ahead of him so it was a bit easier after that.

Q. You were behind him as he came into the pits and he had the penalty for obstructing in the pit lane, did you feel…

KR: He was slowing down and then I tried to go round but (laughing) he was weaving in front of me, but I guess everybody always tries to do that but this time they got a penalty because I think there was a new rule or something after Spa. I don't really know but it doesn't make much difference in the results. Q. I was going to say that you guys did something similar in Spa…

KR: Yeah, but at that time I guess it was legal, but afterwards there was some talk that if someone does it they said that maybe they would report it to the stewards and I guess it happened this time.

Q. Was there a drivers' briefing, was it mentioned in a drivers' briefing or something like that after Spa?

KR: Yeah.

Q. Can you remember where? Brazil, the next race?

KR: My memory is so bad, so don't ask.

Q. Ralf, I think you have overtaken your teammate in the Drivers' championship. What does that mean to you?

RS: Well, on one hand it is nice, on the other hand I have always said we always want to win races, we want to win championships and whether you are sixth, seventh, fifth, tenth. I don't even know where I am now, it doesn't really matter.

Q. Surprised to be on the podium today?

RS: Um, kind of (surprised). I must say, really, kind of (surprised). The whole weekend we have been struggling big time, really. In Japan we seemed to have been strong with a bit of luck, but in the race we had a bad time with the safety car. Here we didn't expect too much from the race. The safety car helped a bit but then during the race we picked up the pace massively and that enabled me to go forward and we had a good strategy as well.

Q. And you had a few battles with Mark Webber and also with Rubens.

RS: Well, it wasn't really a battle was it? Mark was always far enough behind me and Rubens, I couldn't really overtake him. We were close together but there was no real battle.

Q. But third place? You are happy with that?

RS: Oh yes, especially for the team. They did a great job all year long, really pushed it and when you consider from where we came and where we are now, so it's a great thing. I have another podium in the pocket for the winter time, it keeps the motivation going and just enables us to take it from here.

Q. It's a good result to have for the next race, isn't it?

RS: Yeah, we have to wait a little longer now.

Questions From The Floor

Q. (Beniamino Natale - ANSA) Fernando, do you think the change in engine was the decisive factor? What was it that gave you this strong lead?

FA: I think it only came from the engine because the car is the same as Suzuka. We improved the car for the last three races, from Brazil but there we did a conservative race because I needed the championship. In Suzuka we were very unlucky in qualifying in the rain, and here the chassis has been OK and as I said before, the step we made in the engine, a one-race engine, maybe it is as powerful as the McLaren and we were able to fight with them for the first time in the last ten races. Q. Fernando, how do you celebrate tonight for the championship, and secondly after the Shanghai Grand Prix will you just go back to London or go back to Spain?

FA: The two questions have the same answer, I will celebrate in the aeroplane tonight, I am going to London.

Q. (Akis Temperidis – Four Wheels Magazine) Kimi and Fernando, talk about one another, can you talk about the season?

FA: Nothing to say really, everyone knows how quick Kimi is and it's been a fantastic season for me to fight with him. He's always very calm, no mistakes. I have been lucky with my team that we had no mechanical problems and we had a good car, and I don't know, for the future it will be a good fight also because he is very young so we can be a long time in Formula One. KR: I think when we fight against each other it has always been very fair and clean and there are no bad feelings between us. OK, I would rather win it than lose the championship but he has deserved it this year and that's fine for me. He has been quicker from the beginning, and then maybe we were a little bit quicker and in the end, you saw here that we couldn't match them again. He definitely deserves it, and I will try next year again. I will try to give him a hard time and I am sure he will do the same for me, so hopefully we will fight again next year.

Q. (Heikki Kulta – Turun Sanomat) Fernando and Kimi, after this long season how long a break do you need to re-charge your batteries?

KR: I think I am next testing in January sometime, so that is fine for me. It doesn't really matter if you're testing or not but of course after the season it is always nice to have something else to do rather than thinking about racing and then you are more interested at the start of the next year. FA: The same for me. With seasons of 19 or 20 races long, you need to start the season as far away as you can and I think my first test will be in the middle or end of January as I did this year. Until then I hope to relax and enjoy my family.

Q. (Carlo Miquel Gomez – Diario AS) Fernando, what happened in the pit lane with the engine? Some problem?

FA: It went on fire. My engineers kept on telling me during the in lap to really go on the throttle in the pit lane because it was the last V10 engine racing in Formula One and I was on the throttle and it got on fire a little bit – one exhaust.

Kimi Raikkonen has denied speculation linking him to Ferrari as a replacement for Michael Schumacher in 2007.

The Finn's contract with McLaren expires next season - when Schumacher is expected to retire - but he insists he has not struck a deal with Ferrari.

"I have heard the rumours and want to say that I have definitely not signed anything with Ferrari," Raikkonen told German daily newspaper Bild. "If both parties are successful, it's possible I'll stay at McLaren forever."

Raikkonen joined McLaren from Sauber in 2002 to fill the shoes of retiring compatriot and two-time champion Mikka Hakkinen.

The Finn finished as runner-up to Fernando Alonso in the drivers championship this season and wants to go further with the Woking-based team.

"I want to be in the fastest car," said Raikkonen. "As a young boy my dream was to join McLaren-Mercedes because of Mika Hakkinen. I am here now and extremely happy to be so."

Fingers crossed! http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment90366.jpg

Interesting, I didnt know the full story behind this http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment90366.jpg


Michael Schumacher's dismal season ended with another poor result at the China Grand Prix and an official reprimand from governing body FIA.

Schumacher received the ticking-off after colliding with Minardi's Christijan Albers during the warm-up.

The seven-time world champion had to start the race from the pit lane with the spare car but then skidded out on lap 22 behind the safety car.

"The weird ending pretty much sums up our season," said the German. "The only positive thing is that I am third in the championship. Let's look ahead to putting things right next season.
I have to say I'm glad this season is over now. There can only be one target for us; to come back and fight for the title again."

The 36-year-old Ferrari star was left with his front left wheel hanging off after the collision with Albers.

Schumacher was driving slowly on the straight when he meandered into the path of the Minardi driver.

The Dutchman had no time to avoid a collision and bounced over the back of the Ferrari, ripping off most of its left-hand side.

Schumacher tried to get back to the pit in his damaged car but, with his left rear tyre shredded and smoke pouring out of the back, he was forced to abandon it.

"I was just warming up my tyres when suddenly I felt a big bang," he said. "If you want to warm up your tyres usually you zig zag, especially when you have to go slow in order to save fuel.
Then there was the collision. I have to say I have not seen the video yet, probably it was also partly my mistake because I do not know if he could see what I was trying to do."

For the record:

China:

1 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 56 1:39:53.618 1 10

2 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 56 +4.0 secs 3 8

3 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 56 +25.3 secs 9 6

4 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 56 +26.1 secs 2 5

5 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 56 +31.8 secs 14 4

6 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 56 +36.4 secs 11 3

7 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 56 +36.8 secs 10 2

8 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 56 +41.2 secs 4 1

9 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 56 +44.2 secs 7

10 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 56 +59.9 secs 16

11 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 56 +84.6 secs 19

12 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 56 +92.8 secs 8

13 8 Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW 55 Puncture 13

14 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 55 +1 Lap 20

15 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 55 +1 Lap 12

16 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 50 +5 Laps 18

Ret 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 34 Gearbox 17

Ret 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 28 Accident 15

Ret 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 24 Engine 5

Ret 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 22 Spin 6

Fastest Lap: Kimi Räikkönen 1:33.242



Season 2005
WDC
F.Alonso 133
K.Räikkönen 112
M.Schumacher 62

WCC
Renault 191
McLaren-Mercedes 182
Ferrari 100

Interesting, I didnt know the full story behind this http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment90366.jpg

easy; one arrogant, nonchalant, blameless, kraut and one slightly sleepy Dutchman.

easy; one arrogant, nonchalant, blameless, kraut and one slightly sleepy Dutchman.

:D :D :D LOL

Radical wing to help overtaking


A radical rear wing concept that could lead to more overtaking in Formula One has been unveiled by the International Automobile Federation (FIA).

The Centreline Downwash Generating Wing eliminates the existing single rear wing and replaces it with two box-like wings, one behind each rear wheel.

The wings create a wake so following cars have more downforce and less drag.

An FIA statement said: "With the support of the teams it may be possible to introduce these changes by 2007."

A recent survey commissioned by the FIA found that 94% of fans wanted to see more overtaking in Formula One.

And FIA president Max Mosley said: "By introducing the CDG wing we can give fans exactly what they have asked for.

interesting... I dont see why the teams wouldnt behind it.

Kinda reminds me of the 70's LeMans Porsches that had adjustable rear wings.

I wonder if teams do really want to promote overtaking. It seems as though the past few years has been spent designing aero packages that specifically "dirty" the air behind the cars so that following cars cannot get close in corners, which is where they need to be for a slingshot down the straight. I'm sure they will continue to spend as much effort as possible reducing the chances of overtaking, whatever aero rules are applied.

Agreed Tom.

I imagine sponsors will prefer the single plane wing too...


bah, I say drop the wing all together, bring back Venturi Tunnels, and slicks http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment91928.jpg And 4 Litre V10s while we're at it http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment90338.jpg

Fair difference according to this:

That is impressive! hmmm must look at f1racing.net more often. I sort of ignor it a bit in the off season.

I hope they don't introduce "press to pass" like they had at indy!, how whacked is that!

TOM

Off-season is when all the exciting stuff happens! http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment91928.jpg

Didn't take long for the photoshops to start rolling in http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment90338.jpg

Did you see that also next season, they're introducing a new qualifying system.
3 rounds of qualifying. End of first round, the last 5 times will be cut from further qualifying and made to use that time, same with the second session. Then a top 10 shootout for the 3rd session.
Makes things interesting