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07BPB · Sep 5th, 2008, 03:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 5ambo (original)

(apologies in advance for the bad joke)

Maybe the horses are stronger in australia

...*sigh*

that gave me a laugh, as silly as that joke was haha

Im glad the rain is easing up, there is a sound off at Autobarn in Capalaba tonight, wouldn't be good in the wet with all those cars outside. Have to do some last minute mods and start cleaning the Mini for next weekend

Minipnut · Sep 5th, 2008, 07:52 AM

There should be an award for "Most untidy Mini" aswell, with my closet in the back seat of the car and the brake dust covered wheels im sure id have a fighting chance

Quickbrick · Sep 5th, 2008, 11:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 5ambo (original)

(apologies in advance for the bad joke)

Maybe the horses are stronger in australia

Of course, why didn't I think of that. It's clearly something to do with mph vs kph - so you need to use a conversion factor of 2/3. That would mean my AU160hp is really US240hp.

I'm happy again now

I'm thinking maybe we should have a "Virtual Dyno" at the ClubMINI Show & Shine. Steve & I could just look at everyones car and then attribute a Kilowatt figure based on what mods have been done. Probably be just as accurate as the MINI Muster Dyno

n5290066 · Sep 6th, 2008, 12:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Quickbrick (original)

Of course, why didn't I think of that. It's clearly something to do with mph vs kph - so you need to use a conversion factor of 2/3. That would mean my AU160hp is really US240hp.

I'm happy again now

I'm thinking maybe we should have a "Virtual Dyno" at the ClubMINI Show & Shine. Steve & I could just look at everyones car and then attribute a Kilowatt figure based on what mods have been done. Probably be just as accurate as the MINI Muster Dyno

I have now downloaded Dynolicious onto my Iphone, so it should be good for working out HP, so long as we know reasonably accurate weights of the cars being tested. It is supposed to be within 1% accuracy with the systems they use in the USA so we might be able to get some readings "American Style".

Incidentally QB, i saw that post on NAM where the guy was claiming 200HP in Malta. I replied to his post and he said that the figures he was quoting were flywheel corrected calculations that the dyno "computer" had made....

Interesting...If you go back to the post you will see his response after my question.

Quickbrick · Sep 6th, 2008, 01:08 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by n5290066 (original)

Incidentally QB, i saw that post on NAM where the guy was claiming 200HP in Malta. I replied to his post and he said that the figures he was quoting were flywheel corrected calculations that the dyno "computer" had made....

Interesting...If you go back to the post you will see his response after my question.

That explains it then I guess.

Anyone know what the correction factor would be to convert whp to flywheel hp? I'm guessing it must be around 5/4 ???

n5290066 · Sep 6th, 2008, 04:33 AM

He said 20% as well. Can't say for sure but Mini would know.

07BPB · Sep 6th, 2008, 05:10 AM

From what I have heard expect anywhere around 15 to 20 % reduction from fly to wheel, but thats on the R50 and usually holds for the R53.

With the show and shine next weekend I am so up for a "AMVIV parade" along the river. I can fake a break down/ flat tyre long enough for 50 minis to pull out.

ZapoMCS · Sep 6th, 2008, 07:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Quickbrick (original)

That explains it then I guess.

Anyone know what the correction factor would be to convert whp to flywheel hp? I'm guessing it must be around 5/4 ???

Every car will be different. It depends on the drivetrain losses, wheel diameter, wheel weight, tyre pressure, tyre grip/drag, etc. So the only way to accurately know is for the dyno to measure it on wind down. Then when you have that figure you add it to wheel hp. If you use a percentage of wheel HP then it is only a guess (unless it was measured as a percent on run down).

5ambo · Sep 8th, 2008, 01:16 PM

Isnt the answer always 42? (ok - taking a light hearted approach here...)

I am sure there are plenty of fudge factors out there, or they might be called "adjustments" or "finessing"... ok if anyone out there understands transport modelling you will know what I mean (ie there isnt one right answer - just many answers with different justifications...)

So how is everyone going with the cleaning of their MINIs? Mine needs some serious work.. (thats what Saturday morning is for I guess)

brett · Sep 8th, 2008, 01:30 PM

I'm going to struggle as I have the mini owners club Monte weekend and will be coming back from the Sunshine coast in the morning...... so I'll have to use the wash in a bottle trick thing

swamos · Sep 8th, 2008, 09:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 5ambo (original)

(apologies in advance for the bad joke)

Maybe the horses are stronger in australia

Actually there are three standards for HP. DIN (German), SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers - US), and JIT (Japan something or another).

I don't know whether that has any relevance on Gregs car being beaten by a guy on a push bike...

07BPB · Sep 9th, 2008, 09:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 5ambo (original)

So how is everyone going with the cleaning of their MINIs? Mine needs some serious work.. (thats what Saturday morning is for I guess)

Mine is my DD so I will do most of the cleaning on the weekend. It got a clean this past saturday, but just to see me through. Here is my list of things to do.

Friday arvo/night:
Vacuum insides, windex all interior glass, clean leather, wipe off all interior panels etc, add air freshner

, clean dash and pedals

Saturday:
Wash car, wax it twice, detail spray to get anything i miss, remove wheels, clean inside of arches + springs, clean and polish wheels, armor all on he black trim, polish all exterior chrome, jack car up and clean exhaust pipe (scrape the burnt plastic off it), windex on exterior windows. Watch tv.

Yes I have no life

What time should we get to the wharf to get in position? And how meticulous are these judges going to be?

85NIXMIN · Sep 9th, 2008, 12:50 PM

I might come and spectate on the Sunday...as I didn't get in by the due date...

brett · Sep 9th, 2008, 12:52 PM

I'm sure they will be able to fit a good looking girl in!

Quickbrick · Sep 10th, 2008, 12:09 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 85NIXMIN (original)

I might come and spectate on the Sunday...as I didn't get in by the due date...

PM Sent!

It's still not too late for anyone to enter the Show & Shine!!!!!

If any one else is interested in joining us please PM me and I will send you the details. As I just said to Nix in my PM, it doesn't matter if you don't have the time to polish your MINI within an inch of its life (like Ben is planning). The main thing is that we get as many MINIs onto the wharf as possible.

What's the most MINIs you have seen in one spot at one time? I promise you we will blow that out of the water on Sunday. We all know that there aren't that many MINIs on the road, so trying to get 50 MINIs to a show & shine is no easy feat. Please PM me if you are a possibility for Sunday as we are determined to set the record this year and it is promissing to be a great morning

Show is at Portside Wharf, Hamilton and starts at 9am but entrants need to be there from 8am to give us time to setup.

Gregg

85NIXMIN · Sep 11th, 2008, 05:33 AM

I can't wait...

Even if I will be half sleeping from working til 4am on the Sunday morning.... I'll come home have 2hrs sleep if I'm lucky and be on my way...

07BPB · Sep 11th, 2008, 08:28 AM

I should start up a car detailing business

Lots of business around this time of the year.

How many Minis have RSVPed for the day? We obtained that magical 50 yet? My parents are going to come along later in the day to check out the cars, brother wont come though haha.

85NIXMIN · Sep 11th, 2008, 09:07 AM

Grrr those registration forms that were sent to me didn't come up properly on my computer.. so hopefully they will work on my other computer...

5ambo · Sep 11th, 2008, 10:53 AM

Got my ClubMINI membership card in the mail today... Woo! Free hat!

I also put in an order for a shirt (one for Abs too) will they be there to pick up on Sunday?

Quickbrick · Sep 11th, 2008, 11:41 AM

Yet another reason to come to the ClubMINI Show & Shine - We will be launching the 2008 clubMINI apparel range

Yes that's right, the full range of ClubMINI gear will be available for sale. Including Caps; Guys & Girls shirts and jackets.

And like Sambo pointed out, if you join clubMINI in 2008 (or renew your membership) you get a free clubMINI cap, redeemable when you come along to a club run or activity

Just come to the clubMINI tent on Sunday.

Sep 5th, 2008, 03:41 AM	#2181
07BPB MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 83 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 5ambo (original) (apologies in advance for the bad joke) Maybe the horses are stronger in australia ...sigh that gave me a laugh, as silly as that joke was haha Im glad the rain is easing up, there is a sound off at Autobarn in Capalaba tonight, wouldn't be good in the wet with all those cars outside. Have to do some last minute mods and start cleaning the Mini for next weekend "Daisy" <-- 06 Just-a-cooper, Astro Black, Checkmate... with mods

Sep 5th, 2008, 11:53 PM	#2183 (permalink)
Quickbrick MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brisbane Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 344 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 5ambo (original) (apologies in advance for the bad joke) Maybe the horses are stronger in australia Of course, why didn't I think of that. It's clearly something to do with mph vs kph - so you need to use a conversion factor of 2/3. That would mean my AU160hp is really US240hp. I'm happy again now I'm thinking maybe we should have a "Virtual Dyno" at the ClubMINI Show & Shine. Steve & I could just look at everyones car and then attribute a Kilowatt figure based on what mods have been done. Probably be just as accurate as the MINI Muster Dyno QuickBrick

Sep 6th, 2008, 12:44 AM	#2184 (permalink)
n5290066 in28ive My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brisbane, Northside Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 314 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Quickbrick (original) Of course, why didn't I think of that. It's clearly something to do with mph vs kph - so you need to use a conversion factor of 2/3. That would mean my AU160hp is really US240hp. I'm happy again now I'm thinking maybe we should have a "Virtual Dyno" at the ClubMINI Show & Shine. Steve & I could just look at everyones car and then attribute a Kilowatt figure based on what mods have been done. Probably be just as accurate as the MINI Muster Dyno I have now downloaded Dynolicious onto my Iphone, so it should be good for working out HP, so long as we know reasonably accurate weights of the cars being tested. It is supposed to be within 1% accuracy with the systems they use in the USA so we might be able to get some readings "American Style". Incidentally QB, i saw that post on NAM where the guy was claiming 200HP in Malta. I replied to his post and he said that the figures he was quoting were flywheel corrected calculations that the dyno "computer" had made.... Interesting...If you go back to the post you will see his response after my question. If you are travelling in the same direction as your wheels are pointing- You aren't trying hard enough.

Sep 6th, 2008, 01:08 AM	#2185 (permalink)
Quickbrick MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brisbane Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 344 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by n5290066 (original) Incidentally QB, i saw that post on NAM where the guy was claiming 200HP in Malta. I replied to his post and he said that the figures he was quoting were flywheel corrected calculations that the dyno "computer" had made.... Interesting...If you go back to the post you will see his response after my question. That explains it then I guess. Anyone know what the correction factor would be to convert whp to flywheel hp? I'm guessing it must be around 5/4 ??? QuickBrick

Sep 6th, 2008, 04:33 AM	#2186 (permalink)
n5290066 in28ive My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brisbane, Northside Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 314 Offline	He said 20% as well. Can't say for sure but Mini would know. If you are travelling in the same direction as your wheels are pointing- You aren't trying hard enough.

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Sep 5th, 2008, 07:52 AM	#2182 (permalink)
Minipnut MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2006 Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 457 Offline	There should be an award for "Most untidy Mini" aswell, with my closet in the back seat of the car and the brake dust covered wheels im sure id have a fighting chance

Sep 6th, 2008, 05:10 AM	#2187 (permalink)
07BPB MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 83 Offline	From what I have heard expect anywhere around 15 to 20 % reduction from fly to wheel, but thats on the R50 and usually holds for the R53. With the show and shine next weekend I am so up for a "AMVIV parade" along the river. I can fake a break down/ flat tyre long enough for 50 minis to pull out. "Daisy" <-- 06 Just-a-cooper, Astro Black, Checkmate... with mods Last edited by 07BPB : Sep 6th, 2008 at 05:15 AM. Reason: felt like it :)

Sep 6th, 2008, 07:23 AM	#2188 (permalink)
ZapoMCS Dash Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brisbane Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 404 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Quickbrick (original) That explains it then I guess. Anyone know what the correction factor would be to convert whp to flywheel hp? I'm guessing it must be around 5/4 ??? Every car will be different. It depends on the drivetrain losses, wheel diameter, wheel weight, tyre pressure, tyre grip/drag, etc. So the only way to accurately know is for the dyno to measure it on wind down. Then when you have that figure you add it to wheel hp. If you use a percentage of wheel HP then it is only a guess (unless it was measured as a percent on run down).

Sep 8th, 2008, 01:16 PM	#2189 (permalink)
5ambo MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 163 Offline	Isnt the answer always 42? (ok - taking a light hearted approach here...) I am sure there are plenty of fudge factors out there, or they might be called "adjustments" or "finessing"... ok if anyone out there understands transport modelling you will know what I mean (ie there isnt one right answer - just many answers with different justifications...) So how is everyone going with the cleaning of their MINIs? Mine needs some serious work.. (thats what Saturday morning is for I guess)

Sep 8th, 2008, 01:30 PM	#2190 (permalink)
brett 1st MINI Owner in QLD !!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St George Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 2,390 Offline	I'm going to struggle as I have the mini owners club Monte weekend and will be coming back from the Sunshine coast in the morning...... so I'll have to use the wash in a bottle trick thing 1968 Mk1 Morris Cooper S 1310cc Downton Lake Green - White 1974 Leyland Mini 1098c Country Cream 2008 MINI Cooper S Chilli Pepper White - Black Roof

Sep 8th, 2008, 09:25 PM	#2191 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 4,985 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 5ambo (original) (apologies in advance for the bad joke) Maybe the horses are stronger in australia Actually there are three standards for HP. DIN (German), SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers - US), and JIT (Japan something or another). I don't know whether that has any relevance on Gregs car being beaten by a guy on a push bike...

Sep 9th, 2008, 09:23 AM	#2192 (permalink)
07BPB MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 83 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 5ambo (original) So how is everyone going with the cleaning of their MINIs? Mine needs some serious work.. (thats what Saturday morning is for I guess) Mine is my DD so I will do most of the cleaning on the weekend. It got a clean this past saturday, but just to see me through. Here is my list of things to do. Friday arvo/night: Vacuum insides, windex all interior glass, clean leather, wipe off all interior panels etc, add air freshner , clean dash and pedals Saturday: Wash car, wax it twice, detail spray to get anything i miss, remove wheels, clean inside of arches + springs, clean and polish wheels, armor all on he black trim, polish all exterior chrome, jack car up and clean exhaust pipe (scrape the burnt plastic off it), windex on exterior windows. Watch tv. Yes I have no life What time should we get to the wharf to get in position? And how meticulous are these judges going to be? "Daisy" <-- 06 Just-a-cooper, Astro Black, Checkmate... with mods

Sep 9th, 2008, 12:50 PM	#2193 (permalink)
85NIXMIN MINI on the brain!!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 1,084 Offline	I might come and spectate on the Sunday...as I didn't get in by the due date... If the world didn't suck we'd all fall off! www.myspace.com/85nix

Sep 9th, 2008, 12:52 PM	#2194 (permalink)
brett 1st MINI Owner in QLD !!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St George Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 2,390 Offline	I'm sure they will be able to fit a good looking girl in! 1968 Mk1 Morris Cooper S 1310cc Downton Lake Green - White 1974 Leyland Mini 1098c Country Cream 2008 MINI Cooper S Chilli Pepper White - Black Roof

Sep 10th, 2008, 12:09 AM	#2195 (permalink)
Quickbrick MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brisbane Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 344 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 85NIXMIN (original) I might come and spectate on the Sunday...as I didn't get in by the due date... PM Sent! It's still not too late for anyone to enter the Show & Shine!!!!! If any one else is interested in joining us please PM me and I will send you the details. As I just said to Nix in my PM, it doesn't matter if you don't have the time to polish your MINI within an inch of its life (like Ben is planning). The main thing is that we get as many MINIs onto the wharf as possible. What's the most MINIs you have seen in one spot at one time? I promise you we will blow that out of the water on Sunday. We all know that there aren't that many MINIs on the road, so trying to get 50 MINIs to a show & shine is no easy feat. Please PM me if you are a possibility for Sunday as we are determined to set the record this year and it is promissing to be a great morning Show is at Portside Wharf, Hamilton and starts at 9am but entrants need to be there from 8am to give us time to setup. Gregg QuickBrick

Sep 11th, 2008, 05:33 AM	#2196 (permalink)
85NIXMIN MINI on the brain!!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 1,084 Offline	I can't wait... Even if I will be half sleeping from working til 4am on the Sunday morning.... I'll come home have 2hrs sleep if I'm lucky and be on my way... If the world didn't suck we'd all fall off! www.myspace.com/85nix

Sep 11th, 2008, 08:28 AM	#2197 (permalink)
07BPB MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 83 Offline	I should start up a car detailing business Lots of business around this time of the year. How many Minis have RSVPed for the day? We obtained that magical 50 yet? My parents are going to come along later in the day to check out the cars, brother wont come though haha. "Daisy" <-- 06 Just-a-cooper, Astro Black, Checkmate... with mods

Sep 11th, 2008, 09:07 AM	#2198 (permalink)
85NIXMIN MINI on the brain!!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 1,084 Offline	Grrr those registration forms that were sent to me didn't come up properly on my computer.. so hopefully they will work on my other computer... If the world didn't suck we'd all fall off! www.myspace.com/85nix

Sep 11th, 2008, 10:53 AM	#2199 (permalink)
5ambo MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 163 Offline	Got my ClubMINI membership card in the mail today... Woo! Free hat! I also put in an order for a shirt (one for Abs too) will they be there to pick up on Sunday?

Sep 11th, 2008, 11:41 AM	#2200 (permalink)
Quickbrick MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brisbane Local Time: 06:03 AM Posts: 344 Offline	Yet another reason to come to the ClubMINI Show & Shine - We will be launching the 2008 clubMINI apparel range Yes that's right, the full range of ClubMINI gear will be available for sale. Including Caps; Guys & Girls shirts and jackets. And like Sambo pointed out, if you join clubMINI in 2008 (or renew your membership) you get a free clubMINI cap, redeemable when you come along to a club run or activity Just come to the clubMINI tent on Sunday. QuickBrick

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