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21Blue · May 28th, 2006, 01:22 PM

just checked mine.... April 2005 build and it has been on the road for less than a year.
It was pretty wet and there are little bits of rust there.....
I wipe clean the door sill area too everytime after I wash the car....

MickyD · May 28th, 2006, 01:34 PM

nice work breaking this out into a new thread. It deserves it.

Rampant Lion · May 28th, 2006, 01:57 PM

All clear for me

meinamini · May 28th, 2006, 02:02 PM

but your MINI doesn't go out much

Rampant Lion · May 28th, 2006, 02:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by meinamini

but your MINI doesn't go out much

Thats true in 15 months I have managed to rock up 10500 glorious Kms!

MiniFr34k · May 29th, 2006, 12:45 AM

has anyone spoken to their dealer re: rust?

my mini warranty ran out on sunday lol

"Megan" · May 29th, 2006, 12:56 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniFr34k

has anyone spoken to their dealer re: rust?

my mini warranty ran out on sunday lol

I am taking mine in to Alto Artarmon on Wednesday, will let you know what happens.

Meanwhile, I am going to send a letter to BMW as a 'heads up' and a 'what do you plan to do' kinda thing. Will send details of any response to this thread.

Tit · May 29th, 2006, 02:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniFr34k

has anyone spoken to their dealer re: rust?

my mini warranty ran out on sunday lol

I have...I should find out their response this week...

I think you could push this rust thing, I think it has longer-term coverage than just the normal warranty...

swamos · May 29th, 2006, 03:27 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tit

I have...I should find out their response this week...

I think you could push this rust thing, I think it has longer-term coverage than just the normal warranty...

6 years perforation corrosion. 12 years from 05 on. I think this would be covered.

I don't know how you'd fix it though. It's a **really** awkward place.

Bear in mind that sometimes the medicine can be worse that the illness. I can't wait to hear what an aussie dealership says about it

AndrewH · May 29th, 2006, 03:55 AM

Suppose I better subscribe to this thread since I seem to have created it

I checked mine last week and it didn't have any but it was wet and I hadn't been near water for at least 6 days (ie the MINIkhana). I just got some old turtle wax and drizzled it over the area so it is now caked in the stuff. Hopefully this will help somewhat with repelling the water and creating a barrier especially the small gap between the panel joins. I guess the best thing to use would be the same body cavity wax that they use in the rest of the car but I don't really quite know where you would find it??

swamos · May 29th, 2006, 04:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by AndrewH

Suppose I better subscribe to this thread since I seem to have created it

I checked mine last week and it didn't have any but it was wet and I hadn't been near water for at least 6 days (ie the MINIkhana). I just got some old turtle wax and drizzled it over the area so it is now caked in the stuff. Hopefully this will help somewhat with repelling the water and creating a barrier especially the small gap between the panel joins. I guess the best thing to use would be the same body cavity wax that they use in the rest of the car but I don't really quite know where you would find it??

There are several types of this. Probably the easiest would be to buy a can of techtol R56 (or something like that) from Repco or supercheap. It has one of those little tubes for getting it into small places.. just ask and they will find it .

If you want to go all out there is stuff called lanotech that they get from squeezing sheep that is supposed to be the beez nees. It's available from bunnings , but coventry have the industrial grade.

"Megan" · May 29th, 2006, 04:14 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by swamos

6 years perforation corrosion. 12 years from 05 on. I think this would be covered.

I don't know how you'd fix it though. It's a **really** awkward place.

Bear in mind that sometimes the medicine can be worse that the illness. I can't wait to hear what an aussie dealership says about it

Having worked for a manufacturer before, I almost feel sorry for the dealerships as they have to deal with manufacturer stuff ups, even when the manufacturer won't cop responsibility

When resellers (or dealerships) approach the manufacturer with customer issues, they usually have it handed back to them to deal with, until the customer gets so ****ed off, that they contact the manufacturer directly.

So, based on that, I am writing directly to BMW, and informing them it appears to be a problem owners from all across the world have discovered - not just one region. They then need to kick it up to Head Office to come up with a solution.

If you take this issue to the dealership - don't shoot the messenger - ask them to escalate it to their contact at BMW - and when BMW start hearing from both customers AND dealers in numbers, they will have to do something. If you can get the dealer onside, they can act as your advocate - whereas if you get them offside, they aren't as keen to go into bat for you. (Believe me, having been on the customer service end of the phone, dealing with resellers, you can tell the difference!!)

And, no matter what year your MINI is, if you have the problem, and it is recorded as an issue by the dealership, you will always have recourse if it occurs again down the road.

As it is not a safety issue, I would think that if BMW Australia doesn't come to the party, the next step would be Dept of Fair Trading (which seem to be something of a toothless tiger

), not DOTARS. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

swamos · May 29th, 2006, 04:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Megan

Having worked for a manufacturer before, I almost feel sorry for the dealerships as they have to deal with manufacturer stuff ups, even when the manufacturer won't cop responsibility

When resellers (or dealerships) approach the manufacturer with customer issues, they usually have it handed back to them to deal with, until the customer gets so ****ed off, that they contact the manufacturer directly.

So, based on that, I am writing directly to BMW, and informing them it appears to be a problem owners from all across the world have discovered - not just one region. They then need to kick it up to Head Office to come up with a solution.

If you take this issue to the dealership - don't shoot the messenger - ask them to escalate it to their contact at BMW - and when BMW start hearing from both customers AND dealers in numbers, they will have to do something. If you can get the dealer onside, they can act as your advocate - whereas if you get them offside, they aren't as keen to go into bat for you. (Believe me, having been on the customer service end of the phone, dealing with resellers, you can tell the difference!!)

And, no matter what year your MINI is, if you have the problem, and it is recorded as an issue by the dealership, you will always have recourse if it occurs again down the road.

As it is not a safety issue, I would think that if BMW Australia doesn't come to the party, the next step would be Dept of Fair Trading (which seem to be something of a toothless tiger

), not DOTARS. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

Are those evil war clouds a brewing overhead ??

"Megan" · May 29th, 2006, 04:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by swamos

Are those evil war clouds a brewing overhead ??

AndrewH · May 29th, 2006, 04:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by swamos

If you want to go all out there is stuff called lanotec that they get from squeezing sheep that is supposed to be the beez nees. It's available from bunnings , but coventry have the industrial grade.

Thanks for the tip, looks like just the stuff

aussiesupermini · May 29th, 2006, 04:34 AM

Oh Feck!!

How do i check it with the body kit on????? I have 2002 and now i am worrying myself sick at 'Supermini' being inflicted with the any problem let alone rust. Oh no not the dreaded car cancer!! My warranty runs out in one month and also just started getting the dash rattle too, thank god for that 3rd yr warranty now, let me tell u.

Please any ideas guys.

Ann

rellik666 · May 29th, 2006, 04:34 AM

Hi,

I've got an 08/02 build. Sorry to be a bit dumb but where exactly are we talking about?

What rubber strip?

MickyD · May 29th, 2006, 04:38 AM

I'd be very wary of putting anything on there to try and treat rust that is already there - you may end up just sealing the water that is there already in place....

russellgreenwood · May 29th, 2006, 04:44 AM

Rust on my driver's side door - bugger.

Let Peck&Stokes know, going in this week to show them - but still sucks... hopefully someone will let everyone else know soon what's to be done about it - would have to agree it's in a *really* akward spot.

"Megan" · May 29th, 2006, 04:50 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MickyD

I'd be very wary of putting anything on there to try and treat rust that is already there - you may end up just sealing the water that is there already in place....

With any rust, you have to ensure that the existing rust is completely removed, including a small area around it, to avoid the rust re-occurring. Single rust spores or microbes, or whatever they are, are invisible to the naked eye. Unless you know exactly what you are doing, it is definitely worth getting the dealer to look at it first.

May 29th, 2006, 03:55 AM	#30 (permalink)
AndrewH Were there Oompa loompas? Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canberra Local Time: 04:52 PM Posts: 4,181 Offline	Suppose I better subscribe to this thread since I seem to have created it I checked mine last week and it didn't have any but it was wet and I hadn't been near water for at least 6 days (ie the MINIkhana). I just got some old turtle wax and drizzled it over the area so it is now caked in the stuff. Hopefully this will help somewhat with repelling the water and creating a barrier especially the small gap between the panel joins. I guess the best thing to use would be the same body cavity wax that they use in the rest of the car but I don't really quite know where you would find it?? Jan 06 MCS Checkmate

May 29th, 2006, 04:23 AM	#35 (permalink)
AndrewH Were there Oompa loompas? Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canberra Local Time: 04:52 PM Posts: 4,181 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by swamos If you want to go all out there is stuff called lanotec that they get from squeezing sheep that is supposed to be the beez nees. It's available from bunnings , but coventry have the industrial grade. Thanks for the tip, looks like just the stuff Jan 06 MCS Checkmate

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21Blue MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brisbane, Melbourne Local Time: 04:52 PM Posts: 816 Offline	just checked mine.... April 2005 build and it has been on the road for less than a year. It was pretty wet and there are little bits of rust there..... I wipe clean the door sill area too everytime after I wash the car....

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May 28th, 2006, 01:34 PM	#22 (permalink)
MickyD MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 04:52 PM Posts: 3,628 Offline	nice work breaking this out into a new thread. It deserves it.

May 28th, 2006, 01:57 PM	#23 (permalink)
Rampant Lion MIA Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The LC Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 1,021 Offline	All clear for me

May 28th, 2006, 02:02 PM	#24 (permalink)
meinamini Livin' the country life Join Date: May 2004 Location: Livin' in the OC! Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 4,008 Offline	but your MINI doesn't go out much

May 28th, 2006, 02:06 PM	#25 (permalink)
Rampant Lion MIA Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The LC Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 1,021 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by meinamini but your MINI doesn't go out much Thats true in 15 months I have managed to rock up 10500 glorious Kms!

May 29th, 2006, 12:45 AM	#26 (permalink)
MiniFr34k fr34king n00b! My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sydney Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 2,173 Offline	has anyone spoken to their dealer re: rust? my mini warranty ran out on sunday lol

May 29th, 2006, 12:56 AM	#27 (permalink)
"Megan" MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 1,768 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniFr34k has anyone spoken to their dealer re: rust? my mini warranty ran out on sunday lol I am taking mine in to Alto Artarmon on Wednesday, will let you know what happens. Meanwhile, I am going to send a letter to BMW as a 'heads up' and a 'what do you plan to do' kinda thing. Will send details of any response to this thread.

May 29th, 2006, 02:23 AM	#28 (permalink)
Tit Still kickin' along Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 04:52 PM Posts: 3,087 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniFr34k has anyone spoken to their dealer re: rust? my mini warranty ran out on sunday lol I have...I should find out their response this week... I think you could push this rust thing, I think it has longer-term coverage than just the normal warranty...

May 29th, 2006, 03:27 AM	#29 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 4,986 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tit I have...I should find out their response this week... I think you could push this rust thing, I think it has longer-term coverage than just the normal warranty... 6 years perforation corrosion. 12 years from 05 on. I think this would be covered. I don't know how you'd fix it though. It's a really awkward place. Bear in mind that sometimes the medicine can be worse that the illness. I can't wait to hear what an aussie dealership says about it

May 29th, 2006, 04:00 AM	#31 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 4,986 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by AndrewH Suppose I better subscribe to this thread since I seem to have created it I checked mine last week and it didn't have any but it was wet and I hadn't been near water for at least 6 days (ie the MINIkhana). I just got some old turtle wax and drizzled it over the area so it is now caked in the stuff. Hopefully this will help somewhat with repelling the water and creating a barrier especially the small gap between the panel joins. I guess the best thing to use would be the same body cavity wax that they use in the rest of the car but I don't really quite know where you would find it?? There are several types of this. Probably the easiest would be to buy a can of techtol R56 (or something like that) from Repco or supercheap. It has one of those little tubes for getting it into small places.. just ask and they will find it . If you want to go all out there is stuff called lanotech that they get from squeezing sheep that is supposed to be the beez nees. It's available from bunnings , but coventry have the industrial grade.

May 29th, 2006, 04:14 AM	#32 (permalink)
"Megan" MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 1,768 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by swamos 6 years perforation corrosion. 12 years from 05 on. I think this would be covered. I don't know how you'd fix it though. It's a really awkward place. Bear in mind that sometimes the medicine can be worse that the illness. I can't wait to hear what an aussie dealership says about it Having worked for a manufacturer before, I almost feel sorry for the dealerships as they have to deal with manufacturer stuff ups, even when the manufacturer won't cop responsibility When resellers (or dealerships) approach the manufacturer with customer issues, they usually have it handed back to them to deal with, until the customer gets so ****ed off, that they contact the manufacturer directly. So, based on that, I am writing directly to BMW, and informing them it appears to be a problem owners from all across the world have discovered - not just one region. They then need to kick it up to Head Office to come up with a solution. If you take this issue to the dealership - don't shoot the messenger - ask them to escalate it to their contact at BMW - and when BMW start hearing from both customers AND dealers in numbers, they will have to do something. If you can get the dealer onside, they can act as your advocate - whereas if you get them offside, they aren't as keen to go into bat for you. (Believe me, having been on the customer service end of the phone, dealing with resellers, you can tell the difference!!) And, no matter what year your MINI is, if you have the problem, and it is recorded as an issue by the dealership, you will always have recourse if it occurs again down the road. As it is not a safety issue, I would think that if BMW Australia doesn't come to the party, the next step would be Dept of Fair Trading (which seem to be something of a toothless tiger ), not DOTARS. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

May 29th, 2006, 04:18 AM	#33 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 4,986 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Megan Having worked for a manufacturer before, I almost feel sorry for the dealerships as they have to deal with manufacturer stuff ups, even when the manufacturer won't cop responsibility When resellers (or dealerships) approach the manufacturer with customer issues, they usually have it handed back to them to deal with, until the customer gets so ****ed off, that they contact the manufacturer directly. So, based on that, I am writing directly to BMW, and informing them it appears to be a problem owners from all across the world have discovered - not just one region. They then need to kick it up to Head Office to come up with a solution. If you take this issue to the dealership - don't shoot the messenger - ask them to escalate it to their contact at BMW - and when BMW start hearing from both customers AND dealers in numbers, they will have to do something. If you can get the dealer onside, they can act as your advocate - whereas if you get them offside, they aren't as keen to go into bat for you. (Believe me, having been on the customer service end of the phone, dealing with resellers, you can tell the difference!!) And, no matter what year your MINI is, if you have the problem, and it is recorded as an issue by the dealership, you will always have recourse if it occurs again down the road. As it is not a safety issue, I would think that if BMW Australia doesn't come to the party, the next step would be Dept of Fair Trading (which seem to be something of a toothless tiger ), not DOTARS. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. Are those evil war clouds a brewing overhead ??

May 29th, 2006, 04:22 AM	#34 (permalink)
"Megan" MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 1,768 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by swamos Are those evil war clouds a brewing overhead ??

May 29th, 2006, 04:34 AM	#36 (permalink)
aussiesupermini Poker Pirate Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chrome City Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 979 Offline	Oh Feck!! How do i check it with the body kit on????? I have 2002 and now i am worrying myself sick at 'Supermini' being inflicted with the any problem let alone rust. Oh no not the dreaded car cancer!! My warranty runs out in one month and also just started getting the dash rattle too, thank god for that 3rd yr warranty now, let me tell u. Please any ideas guys. Ann

May 29th, 2006, 04:34 AM	#37 (permalink)
rellik666 Keeping The Top Off! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 590 Offline	Hi, I've got an 08/02 build. Sorry to be a bit dumb but where exactly are we talking about? What rubber strip?

May 29th, 2006, 04:38 AM	#38 (permalink)
MickyD MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 04:52 PM Posts: 3,628 Offline	I'd be very wary of putting anything on there to try and treat rust that is already there - you may end up just sealing the water that is there already in place....

May 29th, 2006, 04:44 AM	#39 (permalink)
russellgreenwood MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Geelong, VIC Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 60 Offline	Rust on my driver's side door - bugger. Let Peck&Stokes know, going in this week to show them - but still sucks... hopefully someone will let everyone else know soon what's to be done about it - would have to agree it's in a really akward spot.

May 29th, 2006, 04:50 AM	#40 (permalink)
"Megan" MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 03:52 PM Posts: 1,768 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MickyD I'd be very wary of putting anything on there to try and treat rust that is already there - you may end up just sealing the water that is there already in place.... With any rust, you have to ensure that the existing rust is completely removed, including a small area around it, to avoid the rust re-occurring. Single rust spores or microbes, or whatever they are, are invisible to the naked eye. Unless you know exactly what you are doing, it is definitely worth getting the dealer to look at it first.

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