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Boo · Mar 20th, 2003, 04:22 PM

From Road and Track Magazine....

"The centrifuge trophy goes to the Mini, with 0.87g of lateral grip, accomplished with Pirellis that have a 180 tread wear number — on the sticky side. And the Cooper S, a veritable slot car in the slalom, becomes the new record-holder; its manic 69.5-mph blitz deposes the Porsche 911 GT2, at 68.7.
For ultimate agility, the Mini has no competition short of a Caterham 7 , Miata or go kart. For ultimate stopping, the Mini also distanced itself from the pack, with Boxster-like postings from both 60 and 80 mph."

You know that you did irrepairable damage that night when you took me for a ride in that Cat

The committee keeps reminding me "NO".....

eltel · Mar 20th, 2003, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Boo
You know that you did irrepairable damage that night when you took me for a ride in that Cat

Hmm. Physical or emotional damage?

Boo · Mar 20th, 2003, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eltel
Hmm. Physical or emotional damage?

Psychogical

As Swamos explained...
You go for a drive in a Cat 7 and you spend half of it sideways with a smile on your face...

JugMan · Mar 20th, 2003, 05:30 PM

I second that notion.

The Cat is awesome. Swamos is a bad man to go driving with

First the Caterham, now the Mini, crikey, I've got a lot of saving to do...

I can live in a mini can't I?

Jug

need for speed · Mar 21st, 2003, 04:01 AM

yes you can it has every thing you need it will take to work drive you to a pub for diner and you will always be smileing but you are going to live in it get the leather interia

swamos · Mar 23rd, 2003, 05:01 PM

Yes, 7's are great fun

I don't believe that Aussiemini even noticed that the steering wheel was pointing straight ahead as we drifted on throttle around my favourite local roundabout.

That's how brilliant they are.

It constantly amuses me in here how so many people are blinded by modern cars. There are older cars like the 7 which is a 40+yo design that can still whap the MINI.

I hear them talking about saving 200kg blah blah blah from their MINI, to try and turn it into a lightwieght racer, which it will never really be.

The problem is that we all have to choose which cars we own at some point. I believe that thanks to the stay of the Caterham in our garage, the 7 (i think I'd rather the original) has usurped the type 14 Elite as the car that we will own next. However I will own and treasure a Elite at some point in my life though.

For those unfamiliar, the Type 14 Elite was released on the world in 1957, and was the worlds first all composite moncoque car. It has significantly more advanced suspension the MINI, and is a hell of a lot slipprier than the MINI will ever be, having a drag co-efficient of .29 . To cruise at 100kph it requires only 30 hp

What's more, it only weighs 670kg, so even with it's measly 105 bhp output, it still has a similar power to weight ratio to the MINI cooper S.

Lotus Elite

www.50megs.com/Type14.htm]Better Elite Pictures[/url]

JugMan · Mar 23rd, 2003, 05:22 PM

I am drafting a list of cars that I want to collect

Not in any particular order:

New Mini Cooper S
Classic Mini Cooper S
Caterham 7
Ronart W152 - http://www.ronart.co.uk/pages/frameshome.html
Ronart Lightning
Lotus Elite
Audi RS 4
Harley Davidson - any harley

Honda Posty's bike

to be continued...

Jug

need for speed · Mar 24th, 2003, 03:50 AM

a friend of mine has a 79 LOTUS ESPRITE for sale if any one is interested

swamos · Mar 24th, 2003, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by need for speed
a friend of mine has a 79 LOTUS ESPRITE for sale if any one is interested

Email me, and I'm happy to put it up on our web page....

Lotus Club Queensland

Boo · Mar 24th, 2003, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by swamos

For those unfamiliar, the Type 14 Elite was released on the world in 1957, and was the worlds first all composite moncoque car. It has significantly more advanced suspension the MINI, and is a hell of a lot slipprier than the MINI will ever be, having a drag co-efficient of .29 . To cruise at 100kph it requires only 30 hp What's more, it only weighs 670kg, so even with it's measly 105 bhp output, it still has a similar power to weight ratio to the MINI cooper S.

Now that is a nice car!!!
How would it handle compared to the Cooper S?? Would it have as good a grip around corners due to the skinny wheels?? (remember, i'm new to all this performance car stuff

)

Boo · Mar 24th, 2003, 09:14 AM

Now, Swamos, you are really getting me in trouble.. I just checked out the Lotus site and look what i saw "for sale"...
Showed it to Melody because it is such a beatiful car and she starts looking at me funny

(want to go halves

)

swamos · Mar 24th, 2003, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Boo
Now that is a nice car!!!
How would it handle compared to the Cooper S?? Would it have as good a grip around corners due to the skinny wheels?? (remember, i'm new to all this performance car stuff )

No, it doesn't have nearly as much tyre as a MCS. However, it only weights a little less than half, so it probably has more rubber on the road per kilo than the MINI. If you could get a comparable tyre compound for a Elite you would loose again.

Also, it's advance rwd drive chassis means that it would probably outhandle the MCS as well

JugMan · Mar 24th, 2003, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Also, it's advance rwd drive chassis means that it would probably outhandle the MCS as well

wait... are you referring to the Elite, or the 7 there Steve?

Jug

P.S. - in the restoration pics of that elite, I can see dodge viper in there somehow... must be the long bonnet, and miniscule cabin...

Awesome car. Add to the list.

Jug

Mar 20th, 2003, 04:22 PM	#1
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 07:42 AM Posts: 1,752 Offline	Hey Swamos!!! From Road and Track Magazine.... "The centrifuge trophy goes to the Mini, with 0.87g of lateral grip, accomplished with Pirellis that have a 180 tread wear number — on the sticky side. And the Cooper S, a veritable slot car in the slalom, becomes the new record-holder; its manic 69.5-mph blitz deposes the Porsche 911 GT2, at 68.7. For ultimate agility, the Mini has no competition short of a Caterham 7 , Miata or go kart. For ultimate stopping, the Mini also distanced itself from the pack, with Boxster-like postings from both 60 and 80 mph." You know that you did irrepairable damage that night when you took me for a ride in that Cat The committee keeps reminding me "NO"..... The original SWORKS

Mar 20th, 2003, 05:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
eltel MINIstry of Fun Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eastern Suburbs, Mel Local Time: 07:42 AM Posts: 1,593 Offline	Re: Hey Swamos!!! Quote: Originally posted by Boo You know that you did irrepairable damage that night when you took me for a ride in that Cat Hmm. Physical or emotional damage?

Mar 20th, 2003, 05:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 07:42 AM Posts: 1,752 Offline	Re: Re: Hey Swamos!!! Quote: Originally posted by eltel Hmm. Physical or emotional damage? Psychogical As Swamos explained... You go for a drive in a Cat 7 and you spend half of it sideways with a smile on your face... The original SWORKS

Mar 21st, 2003, 04:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
need for speed MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: sydney Local Time: 08:42 AM Posts: 41 Offline	yes you can it has every thing you need it will take to work drive you to a pub for diner and you will always be smileing but you are going to live in it get the leather interia its a way of life

Mar 23rd, 2003, 05:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 07:42 AM Posts: 5,538 Offline	Yes, 7's are great fun I don't believe that Aussiemini even noticed that the steering wheel was pointing straight ahead as we drifted on throttle around my favourite local roundabout. That's how brilliant they are. It constantly amuses me in here how so many people are blinded by modern cars. There are older cars like the 7 which is a 40+yo design that can still whap the MINI. I hear them talking about saving 200kg blah blah blah from their MINI, to try and turn it into a lightwieght racer, which it will never really be. The problem is that we all have to choose which cars we own at some point. I believe that thanks to the stay of the Caterham in our garage, the 7 (i think I'd rather the original) has usurped the type 14 Elite as the car that we will own next. However I will own and treasure a Elite at some point in my life though. For those unfamiliar, the Type 14 Elite was released on the world in 1957, and was the worlds first all composite moncoque car. It has significantly more advanced suspension the MINI, and is a hell of a lot slipprier than the MINI will ever be, having a drag co-efficient of .29 . To cruise at 100kph it requires only 30 hp What's more, it only weighs 670kg, so even with it's measly 105 bhp output, it still has a similar power to weight ratio to the MINI cooper S. Lotus Elite www.50megs.com/Type14.htm]Better Elite Pictures[/url] Clubman less.... Last edited by swamos : Mar 23rd, 2003 at 05:47 PM.

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Mar 20th, 2003, 05:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
JugMan MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brisbane - North Side Local Time: 07:42 AM Posts: 510 Offline	I second that notion. The Cat is awesome. Swamos is a bad man to go driving with First the Caterham, now the Mini, crikey, I've got a lot of saving to do... I can live in a mini can't I? Jug

Mar 23rd, 2003, 05:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
JugMan MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brisbane - North Side Local Time: 07:42 AM Posts: 510 Offline	I am drafting a list of cars that I want to collect Not in any particular order: New Mini Cooper S Classic Mini Cooper S Caterham 7 Ronart W152 - http://www.ronart.co.uk/pages/frameshome.html Ronart Lightning Lotus Elite Audi RS 4 Harley Davidson - any harley Honda Posty's bike to be continued... Jug Last edited by JugMan : Mar 28th, 2003 at 08:40 PM.

Mar 24th, 2003, 03:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
need for speed MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: sydney Local Time: 08:42 AM Posts: 41 Offline	a friend of mine has a 79 LOTUS ESPRITE for sale if any one is interested its a way of life

Mar 24th, 2003, 03:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 07:42 AM Posts: 5,538 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by need for speed a friend of mine has a 79 LOTUS ESPRITE for sale if any one is interested Email me, and I'm happy to put it up on our web page.... Lotus Club Queensland Clubman less....

Mar 24th, 2003, 09:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 07:42 AM Posts: 1,752 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by swamos For those unfamiliar, the Type 14 Elite was released on the world in 1957, and was the worlds first all composite moncoque car. It has significantly more advanced suspension the MINI, and is a hell of a lot slipprier than the MINI will ever be, having a drag co-efficient of .29 . To cruise at 100kph it requires only 30 hp What's more, it only weighs 670kg, so even with it's measly 105 bhp output, it still has a similar power to weight ratio to the MINI cooper S. Now that is a nice car!!! How would it handle compared to the Cooper S?? Would it have as good a grip around corners due to the skinny wheels?? (remember, i'm new to all this performance car stuff ) The original SWORKS

Mar 24th, 2003, 09:14 AM	#11 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 07:42 AM Posts: 1,752 Offline	Now, Swamos, you are really getting me in trouble.. I just checked out the Lotus site and look what i saw "for sale"... Showed it to Melody because it is such a beatiful car and she starts looking at me funny (want to go halves ) Attached Thumbnails The original SWORKS

Mar 24th, 2003, 11:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 07:42 AM Posts: 5,538 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Boo Now that is a nice car!!! How would it handle compared to the Cooper S?? Would it have as good a grip around corners due to the skinny wheels?? (remember, i'm new to all this performance car stuff ) No, it doesn't have nearly as much tyre as a MCS. However, it only weights a little less than half, so it probably has more rubber on the road per kilo than the MINI. If you could get a comparable tyre compound for a Elite you would loose again. Also, it's advance rwd drive chassis means that it would probably outhandle the MCS as well Clubman less....

Mar 24th, 2003, 11:08 AM	#13 (permalink)
JugMan MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brisbane - North Side Local Time: 07:42 AM Posts: 510 Offline	Quote: Also, it's advance rwd drive chassis means that it would probably outhandle the MCS as well wait... are you referring to the Elite, or the 7 there Steve? Jug P.S. - in the restoration pics of that elite, I can see dodge viper in there somehow... must be the long bonnet, and miniscule cabin... Awesome car. Add to the list. Jug Last edited by JugMan : Mar 24th, 2003 at 11:24 AM.

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