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alistaircooke · Mar 28th, 2003, 10:22 AM

hey all,

just wondering if anyone had ordered the Cooper S upgrade (is it 200BHP or 210BHP?) here in Sydney. does anyone have figures on the performance increase? top end and 0-100?

also does it involve a new exhaust, and if so would that exhuast still satisfy "regulations"

how much is it? and where can we order it from? does it invalidate the warranty....oh so many questions

also - is anyone else keen to organise a track day where we can take our pride and joys around the track for a spin? I was invited to a Mazda MX5 day (at wakefield) which is running this weekend, but unfortunately can't make it.

is there a BMW event we could join? take over ;-)

Al.

eltel · Mar 28th, 2003, 12:41 PM

I suggest that Boo would be the best person to answer those questions.

Mike Clarke · Mar 28th, 2003, 02:18 PM

LAtest guesstimate from the dealer is $11,000, it should be 200bhp and your warranty will remain

Boo · Mar 28th, 2003, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alistaircooke
hey all,

just wondering if anyone had ordered the Cooper S upgrade (is it 200BHP or 210BHP?) here in Sydney. does anyone have figures on the performance increase? top end and 0-100?

also does it involve a new exhaust, and if so would that exhuast still satisfy "regulations"

how much is it? and where can we order it from? does it invalidate the warranty....oh so many questions

also - is anyone else keen to organise a track day where we can take our pride and joys around the track for a spin? I was invited to a Mazda MX5 day (at wakefield) which is running this weekend, but unfortunately can't make it.

is there a BMW event we could join? take over ;-)

Al.

Hi Al,
I and a few others on this board have joined the BMW club of NSW ...
http://www.bmwclubs.asn.au/nsw/
They have regular track days and events.
They are talking about making a new class for the Mini if we get enough people involved so we are competing againgst like cars..they will probably differentiate between "Works" upgraded cars and stock also.

As for there classification system.
Allowable mods that will not put you up a class in there current structure are...
*Brake upgrades
*Spring, shock absorber and sway bar changes, includinng adjustable camber plates.
*Exhaust changes as allowed by the RTA eg. pretty well cat back no probs or new system with new Catalytic converters
*Air filter/Air Box changes
*Reprogramming of original engine management system but not a replacement system

thats pretty well it otherwise they start jacking you up some classes ie, i use semi slicks which put me up one class..

There is a monthly meeting on next Wednesday at BMW Sydney if you want to drop by to see what the deal is.
The BMW nationals are also on next month over Easter at Oran Park, if you want to join in on the fun you need to register by the end of the month..
I can PM you Cheryl Haywood's (Membership Secretary) number if you want it.

Apart from that, the next motorsport round is in June at Wakefield Park (I am actually heading down there next Wednesday for an Open day to have a bit of practice).

Works kit will be available from your dealer..order now if you want it cause there will be limited supplies..

alistaircooke · Mar 31st, 2003, 11:49 AM

$11,000!!!!!

I hope not. I've been reading all about the Hartge performance upgrade for the Cooper S (followed the link from the banner ads here).

They talk about at introductory price of 1499+vat (UKP) for

- increased BHP to 212-215 (TUV have approved upto 220BHP)
- 0-60mph quicker by 1 second (now 6.6s)
- 0-100mph nearly 6 seconds quicker!!! (now 15.1s)

more details www.birds.uk.com click on "mini"

- they also have pictures of a super sexy exhaust, borrowed

from the M3/M5 (ie four pipes at the back).

question: what (or who) is TUV...is this the BMW waranty geezers?

Al.

Boo · Mar 31st, 2003, 02:49 PM

I am pretty sure that the European TUV is like our ADR (Australian Design Regulations).. The Hartge kit passes roadworthy/environmental regulations for Europe which i am led to believe is a stamp of approval as such..
The people who were looking at bringing it into Australia are Peak Performance out at Parramatta who are Hartge Authorised dealers.
I think i heard a price of $6K a while ago.. You would have to call them to get the real price.

laz · Mar 31st, 2003, 09:49 PM

$6K doesnt sound too bad ... but it sounds like its not available yet..

Boo · Apr 1st, 2003, 08:10 AM

Give Peak Performance a call, their number is (02)9683 5577..
I'm not sure what the story is..

alistaircooke · Apr 14th, 2003, 10:20 AM

"friend in the trade" spoke to Peak at the w/end. quoted him: -

$1700 for the 4-port Exhaust conversion (BMW M3 replica), includes new rear bumper and colour coding.

approx $5000 for the Hartge 220BHP+ conversion.

laz · Apr 14th, 2003, 10:28 AM

haha .. so this is what we do at work ...

$5k including installation ? has anyone tried it yet ? any problems with insurance ?

warped · Apr 14th, 2003, 10:31 AM

Any word on the progress of the JCW kit ADR testing? Last I heard was it was just a little too loud

My car rolls off the boat on the 4th May so I am hoping I get the kit fitted prior to picking it up

Cheers
Steve

Boo · Apr 14th, 2003, 08:13 PM

$5K is pretty damn good.. almost makes you want to jump over to the dark side and save a bundle

disdis · Apr 14th, 2003, 08:24 PM

any chance it is avail in Melb???

Boo · Apr 14th, 2003, 08:30 PM

not sure..
but for those who are thinking about tracking their cars... semi slicks would be my first mod.. otherwise you will go through road rubber at an alarming rate

erichui · Apr 16th, 2003, 06:33 AM

would like to go to some trackdays..
but then i am a newbie driver

better at least do those car control course first...
lol..

FLiPSiDE · Apr 16th, 2003, 07:39 AM

I'm probably going to get the hartge conversion in a few weeks.. although i think 5 grand is a little rich, i know the part cost is only around 2500.. so they're doubling it for fitting.. and i've read it should cost alot less.. so i'll have a talk to them sometime after my car is serviced next week and see what the go is, not that interested in the exhaust.. want it to look stock..

but mmmm 200hp

Goul · Apr 16th, 2003, 08:01 AM

Does that 4 port exhaust that is being offered for $1700 make a difference? Does anyone know if it cat back or does that include header as well. Id be interested in doing and exhaust and CAI for my MCS but that is as far as i can go.
Im budgeting 2k....thats 2k less to spend on the engagement ring for the misses

Boo · Apr 16th, 2003, 08:16 AM

Hey Goul,
if you have $2K to do mods, i would probably look at sway bars first.. Forget about the extra power..you don't really need it and the thing is built for corners anyway..

Or, maybe look at a chip upgrade??

Goul · Apr 16th, 2003, 09:32 AM

ThankS Boo.
Good advise, do you think extra power can be gained from chip?
Sway bars are a must to... i didnt think about that

By the way i saw your car parked on Crown Street last week

Goul · Apr 16th, 2003, 09:39 AM

Boo
One more question, are you happy with the Pipercross CAI.I think that will be the first mod of all...reason im asking is because ive noticed the JCW kit does not alter the Cooper S intake system which leads me to believe it is ok

Cheers

Nick

Mar 28th, 2003, 10:22 AM	#1
alistaircooke C'mon you Spurs! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Shore Local Time: 07:13 AM Posts: 121 Offline	Cooper S upgrades and NSW Track days? hey all, just wondering if anyone had ordered the Cooper S upgrade (is it 200BHP or 210BHP?) here in Sydney. does anyone have figures on the performance increase? top end and 0-100? also does it involve a new exhaust, and if so would that exhuast still satisfy "regulations" how much is it? and where can we order it from? does it invalidate the warranty....oh so many questions also - is anyone else keen to organise a track day where we can take our pride and joys around the track for a spin? I was invited to a Mazda MX5 day (at wakefield) which is running this weekend, but unfortunately can't make it. is there a BMW event we could join? take over ;-) Al.

Mar 28th, 2003, 02:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 06:13 AM Posts: 1,735 Offline	Re: Cooper S upgrades and NSW Track days? Quote: Originally posted by alistaircooke hey all, just wondering if anyone had ordered the Cooper S upgrade (is it 200BHP or 210BHP?) here in Sydney. does anyone have figures on the performance increase? top end and 0-100? also does it involve a new exhaust, and if so would that exhuast still satisfy "regulations" how much is it? and where can we order it from? does it invalidate the warranty....oh so many questions also - is anyone else keen to organise a track day where we can take our pride and joys around the track for a spin? I was invited to a Mazda MX5 day (at wakefield) which is running this weekend, but unfortunately can't make it. is there a BMW event we could join? take over ;-) Al. Hi Al, I and a few others on this board have joined the BMW club of NSW ... http://www.bmwclubs.asn.au/nsw/ They have regular track days and events. They are talking about making a new class for the Mini if we get enough people involved so we are competing againgst like cars..they will probably differentiate between "Works" upgraded cars and stock also. As for there classification system. Allowable mods that will not put you up a class in there current structure are... Brake upgrades Spring, shock absorber and sway bar changes, includinng adjustable camber plates. Exhaust changes as allowed by the RTA eg. pretty well cat back no probs or new system with new Catalytic converters Air filter/Air Box changes Reprogramming of original engine management system but not a replacement system thats pretty well it otherwise they start jacking you up some classes ie, i use semi slicks which put me up one class.. There is a monthly meeting on next Wednesday at BMW Sydney if you want to drop by to see what the deal is. The BMW nationals are also on next month over Easter at Oran Park, if you want to join in on the fun you need to register by the end of the month.. I can PM you Cheryl Haywood's (Membership Secretary) number if you want it. Apart from that, the next motorsport round is in June at Wakefield Park (I am actually heading down there next Wednesday for an Open day to have a bit of practice). Works kit will be available from your dealer..order now if you want it cause there will be limited supplies.. The original SWORKS*

Mar 31st, 2003, 02:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 06:13 AM Posts: 1,735 Offline	I am pretty sure that the European TUV is like our ADR (Australian Design Regulations).. The Hartge kit passes roadworthy/environmental regulations for Europe which i am led to believe is a stamp of approval as such.. The people who were looking at bringing it into Australia are Peak Performance out at Parramatta who are Hartge Authorised dealers. I think i heard a price of $6K a while ago.. You would have to call them to get the real price. The original SWORKS

Apr 1st, 2003, 08:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 06:13 AM Posts: 1,735 Offline	Give Peak Performance a call, their number is (02)9683 5577.. I'm not sure what the story is.. The original SWORKS

Apr 14th, 2003, 08:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 06:13 AM Posts: 1,735 Offline	$5K is pretty damn good.. almost makes you want to jump over to the dark side and save a bundle The original SWORKS

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Mar 28th, 2003, 12:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
eltel MINIstry of Fun Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eastern Suburbs, Mel Local Time: 06:13 AM Posts: 1,566 Offline	I suggest that Boo would be the best person to answer those questions.

Mar 28th, 2003, 02:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mike Clarke You are number 6 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Perth WA Local Time: 05:13 AM Posts: 5,065 Offline	LAtest guesstimate from the dealer is $11,000, it should be 200bhp and your warranty will remain

Mar 31st, 2003, 11:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
alistaircooke C'mon you Spurs! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Shore Local Time: 07:13 AM Posts: 121 Offline	$11,000!!!!! I hope not. I've been reading all about the Hartge performance upgrade for the Cooper S (followed the link from the banner ads here). They talk about at introductory price of 1499+vat (UKP) for - increased BHP to 212-215 (TUV have approved upto 220BHP) - 0-60mph quicker by 1 second (now 6.6s) - 0-100mph nearly 6 seconds quicker!!! (now 15.1s) more details www.birds.uk.com click on "mini" - they also have pictures of a super sexy exhaust, borrowed from the M3/M5 (ie four pipes at the back). question: what (or who) is TUV...is this the BMW waranty geezers? Al.

Mar 31st, 2003, 09:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
laz MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 06:13 AM Posts: 65 Offline	$6K doesnt sound too bad ... but it sounds like its not available yet..

Apr 14th, 2003, 10:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
alistaircooke C'mon you Spurs! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Shore Local Time: 07:13 AM Posts: 121 Offline	"friend in the trade" spoke to Peak at the w/end. quoted him: - $1700 for the 4-port Exhaust conversion (BMW M3 replica), includes new rear bumper and colour coding. approx $5000 for the Hartge 220BHP+ conversion.

Apr 14th, 2003, 10:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
laz MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 06:13 AM Posts: 65 Offline	haha .. so this is what we do at work ... $5k including installation ? has anyone tried it yet ? any problems with insurance ?

Apr 14th, 2003, 10:31 AM	#11 (permalink)
warped JCW No. 1459 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Neutral Bay, Sydney Local Time: 06:13 AM Posts: 869 Offline	Any word on the progress of the JCW kit ADR testing? Last I heard was it was just a little too loud My car rolls off the boat on the 4th May so I am hoping I get the kit fitted prior to picking it up Cheers Steve

Apr 14th, 2003, 08:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
disdis MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 06:13 AM Posts: 294 Offline	any chance it is avail in Melb???

Apr 14th, 2003, 08:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 06:13 AM Posts: 1,735 Offline	not sure.. but for those who are thinking about tracking their cars... semi slicks would be my first mod.. otherwise you will go through road rubber at an alarming rate The original SWORKS

Apr 16th, 2003, 06:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
erichui MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:13 AM Posts: 631 Offline	would like to go to some trackdays.. but then i am a newbie driver better at least do those car control course first... lol.. 05 PW/B chilli. finally here.

Apr 16th, 2003, 07:39 AM	#16 (permalink)
FLiPSiDE I am Jacks wasted life Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 06:13 AM Posts: 566 Offline	I'm probably going to get the hartge conversion in a few weeks.. although i think 5 grand is a little rich, i know the part cost is only around 2500.. so they're doubling it for fitting.. and i've read it should cost alot less.. so i'll have a talk to them sometime after my car is serviced next week and see what the go is, not that interested in the exhaust.. want it to look stock.. but mmmm 200hp

Apr 16th, 2003, 08:01 AM	#17 (permalink)
Goul MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:13 PM Posts: 71 Offline	Does that 4 port exhaust that is being offered for $1700 make a difference? Does anyone know if it cat back or does that include header as well. Id be interested in doing and exhaust and CAI for my MCS but that is as far as i can go. Im budgeting 2k....thats 2k less to spend on the engagement ring for the misses Nick Dark Silver/White MCS Build/June 2002

Apr 16th, 2003, 08:16 AM	#18 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 06:13 AM Posts: 1,735 Offline	Hey Goul, if you have $2K to do mods, i would probably look at sway bars first.. Forget about the extra power..you don't really need it and the thing is built for corners anyway.. Or, maybe look at a chip upgrade?? The original SWORKS

Apr 16th, 2003, 09:32 AM	#19 (permalink)
Goul MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:13 PM Posts: 71 Offline	ThankS Boo. Good advise, do you think extra power can be gained from chip? Sway bars are a must to... i didnt think about that By the way i saw your car parked on Crown Street last week Nick Dark Silver/White MCS Build/June 2002

Apr 16th, 2003, 09:39 AM	#20 (permalink)
Goul MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:13 PM Posts: 71 Offline	Boo One more question, are you happy with the Pipercross CAI.I think that will be the first mod of all...reason im asking is because ive noticed the JCW kit does not alter the Cooper S intake system which leads me to believe it is ok Cheers Nick Nick Dark Silver/White MCS Build/June 2002

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