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View Poll Results: Choose the drive you would like to attend on Sunday July 13
dfour: Start TBA. Windsor via Galston Gorge, then onto Wollombi Tavern via the Putty Rd for lunch, home via Peats Ridge and the Old Pacific Hwy. 4 33.33%
Boo: Early start Manly. West Head via McCarrs Creek Rd, then onto Cottage Point via Akuna Bay, over to Terry Hills, St Ives, enter Kuringai National Park and head to Mt Colah. Lunch at Wisemans Ferry via Old Pacific Hwy, Gosford & Peats Ridge Rd. Home via Old Windsor Rd and Pacific Hwy. 8 66.67%
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Old Jun 9th, 2003, 05:32 AM
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Thumbs up NSW: MINI2 Drive July 13

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Sydney's Northern and North Western National Parks & Water Ways

Another great MINI day under a perfect Sydney sky on some of our National Parks magnificant roads and waterways. A special thanks to National Parks & Wildlife Service, our fantastic sponsors (below), and our breakfast hosts; Joe & Carlo at Moltofino Restaurant Dee Why, our lunch hosts; Suzanne and Claire at Riverside Oaks, our camera crew Mark Cooper and Jerry, Jono, Danny "Jack" Massa (Divinity) and of course, a really great bunch of MINI owners and friends for making it a truly memorable day.

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I think there is also a entry fee into the National Parks, i will take a drive up and have a talk to the rangers to see if entry into one gives you access to the other.. I think it does...
Then again, they might not be charging in the winter or we may get through before they open anyway.. Will find out and get back to you

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We're definately in ... and the National Park does charge $10 per vehicle when the little booth is manned ...

Do you really need to drive up there to find out Boo, or do you just like the road?
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i look forward to this, i missed out on the last mini2 drive and cant wait for this one!

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Definately prefer Boo's option. Can you tell me how much dirt road is included on this drive?

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Normally if you tell Mr Ranger on the gate that your just driving though and not stopping they don't charge you for park entry.

It always works in the Royal National Park and I've been through Bobbin head on a car club run where it was ok also.

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There is no dirt on this run, unless you want to have lunch at St Auburns instead of Wisemans Ferry, then you can enjoy about a 40km round trip of dirt extravaganza as Coopz and i found out

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There is no dirt on this run, unless you want to have lunch at St Auburns instead of Wisemans Ferry, then you can enjoy about a 40km round trip of dirt extravaganza as Coopz and i found out

I don't mind dirt as long as the roads aren't going to puncture our crappy but expensive runflats

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I don't mind dirt as long as the roads aren't going to puncture our crappy but expensive runflats

exactly... don't mind the odd bit of dirt road, can't afford the repair bill on the RFT's...
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Re: NSW: Entries Poll for July 13 Drive

Cover Charge: To help cover costs including insurance, day paks etc we will need to charge $20 per attending vehicle. [/b][/quote]

just out of interest, what kind of insurance cover are you organising for the day? from what i gather, you need to organise insurance if you do a run with more than x number of cars? but i don't really understand that concept if we all have comprehensive car insurance anyway. is it a requirement of the car insurance companies - is our normal insurance void on such a run? of course, i've got no problems with the insurance thing, since we don't want to get into any trouble do we?

thanks also for organising day packs...i think they are a great idea

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For the record I would prefer to keep away from dirt roads for a variety of reasons ... firstly, my car is brand new and stone chips don't fill me with feelings of joy ... secondly, the chance that someone is going to have an 'incident' is much higher on dirt/gravel than bitumen

In the interests of keeping it safe I think it would be preferable, at a minimum, to make any off road sections of the day optional, and provide alternate sealed routes for the less adventurous
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Re: Re: NSW: Entries Poll for July 13 Drive

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Cover Charge: To help cover costs including insurance, day paks etc we will need to charge $20 per attending vehicle.

just out of interest, what kind of insurance cover are you organising for the day?

thanks also for organising day packs...i think they are a great idea

Hi jaydub,

Good question re insurance. Unfortunately even though we all have comprehensive insurance there is also a potential public risk liability for any organiser of any event. That even includes organising a marbles tournament for the local school kids.

Ridiculous as it may seem, a passerby may trip over one of us poor sods who is checking out an after market brake system on one of our attendees MCS/MC's and sue us for obstructing their right of way. Who pays for the legals defending such a case? I know it is bloody stupid to think this may happen however that is the way of things in the new litigious Australia.

Did you know that Aus is now the most litigant country in the western world even surpassing our US cousins for ******** claims? Did you also know that less than 2% of total revenue collected by insurance companies is actually paid out in settlements? Who is bull******** who here?

Unfortunately we, the majority of law abiding citizens are asked to pay for that minority of ********s who want to push the envelope making frivolous claims.

As for the day paks and pics etc. A map will cost us about $8 and the pics/prints will cost us about $4-$6 per pak.

Dependant on the numbers we should round off to around $18-$20 for the paks including insur.
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For the record I would prefer to keep away from dirt roads for a variety of reasons ... firstly, my car is brand new and stone chips don't fill me with feelings of joy ... secondly, the chance that someone is going to have an 'incident' is much higher on dirt/gravel than bitumen

In the interests of keeping it safe I think it would be preferable, at a minimum, to make any off road sections of the day optional, and provide alternate sealed routes for the less adventurous


Hi Steve,

No dirt roads planned for our July 13 drive. Plenty of twisty ones however.

Boo, Mrs Boo and I are doing a reccy next Tuesday June 17 starting at 8.30am from 'Freshwater Restaurant' at Harboard if anybody would like to join us. We will be lunching at Windsor Tavern.
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Ridiculous as it may seem, a passerby may trip over one of us poor sods who is checking out an after market brake system on one of our attendees MCS/MC's and sue us for obstructing their right of way. Who pays for the legals defending such a case? I know it is bloody stupid to think this may happen however that is the way of things in the new litigious Australia.

Did you know that Aus is now the most litigant country in the western world even surpassing our US cousins for ******** claims? Did you also know that less than 2% of total revenue collected by insurance companies is actually paid out in settlements? Who is bull******** who here?

Unfortunately we, the majority of law abiding citizens are asked to pay for that minority of ********s who want to push the envelope making frivolous claims.


damn those bloody insurance companies and lawyers the world would be a better place if there weren't these idiots who think they can sue for every little thing after watching judge judy

well, let's hope that at least someone will have some aftermarket brake system for us to check out

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Reccy Starting Point

Meet 8.30am Tuesday June 17 Freshwater Restaurant Car Park (end of Moore Road - see map below).

The drive route for our reccy will be decided by the Poll Friday June 13. Starting point will be the same.

Weather promises to be fine so we can look forward to a nice day away from the desk. Bring your digital cameras.
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