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MrMow · Sep 1st, 2003, 11:38 PM

I just did the M3 training course on Sunday down at Phillip island.. man it was fun, I highly recommend it! The day started with some (slow) laps, followed by some oversteer exercises (I managed to spin the damn car everytime

though did excecute a perfect 360'!!), then some high speed braking exercises.

There was an awesome motorkhana event (I quickly realised how crap I was

), then the day was rounded off with some fairly quick laps, our group (of 2 cars) had Geoff Brabham as our instructor, its very cool to be going through a corner and getting feedback as to why you were pushing the front or missed the apex.
After 10 or so laps, I was feeling pretty fast... the Geoff took us for a lap with him driving... Jeebus!! He was quick.

All in all a great day! The M3 is awesome, sounds great and goes sooo fast! But.... I preferred my Cooper S, wouldnt get rid of in for an M3, no way!

WAY · Sep 2nd, 2003, 02:12 AM

Mr Mow, how much was the course? This is the level 2 one? Used to be $880. I am really keen to do it, along with a couple of my friends. Tell me more!

MrMow · Sep 2nd, 2003, 05:01 AM

Hey welcome back dude! I did the level 3 course (perfection? Fascination?).. its all M3, was about $1300, I hear the level 2 is just as good (325 and M3), you have to do a level 1 or 2 before the M3 course.

Expensive.. but you get to drive somone elses M3 for the day! Dont have to worry about tyres and get tuition from Geaoff Brabham!

WAY · Sep 2nd, 2003, 05:39 AM

Thanks dude. Good to be back here, eventhough I don't have a Cooper S anymore. Good to see you are enjoying the S as well, better than the Cooper huh? Is the quality much better on the new car than the old one? No more suspension problems?

Doesn't sound like you have done the Level 2 course. I have done level 1 with BMW and done some other advanced driving with Lamborghini at Phillip Island recently. It was awsome. It was only open to owners of Lambo, Ferrari, and Porsche and by invitation only. My friend has one of the 5 Murcielago's in Melbourne, so he got me invited. I was actually faster than most cars, overtaking most of the much more fancy Lambos and Ferraris. Had a few laps with Paul Stokell in the Murcielago. Man, that's even better than around there with Geoff Brahram in an M3 (E36) previously! But I digress. My point is do you think I can get away with not having done BMW's level 2 course? I can drive pretty well (I think) but what kind of skills do I need to have before doing level 3? My other alternative is going up to Mt Cotton to do the Porsche one. Trashing someone else's Porsche is even better.

MrMow · Sep 2nd, 2003, 06:02 AM

Oh, if you have done the level 1 its fine, I never did the level 2.. but the Porsche one.. that would be awesome!

Yes, the S is much better than the Cooper, very few problems.. just rattles and squeaks.

WAY · Sep 2nd, 2003, 07:33 AM

The Porsche one combines their Level 1 and 2 together. I don't think you can do level 2 without Level 1 at the same time. IT cost $1125 for the one day level 1 and $2250 for the combined one. I don't mind, but my GF will not be happy that I am going to spend that kind of money on a driving course. Will see what she says when I propose this to her...

eltel · Sep 2nd, 2003, 08:05 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by WAY

. I was actually faster than most cars, overtaking most of the much more fancy Lambos and Ferraris.

Why am I not surprised.

Way to go.

Harry Morant · Sep 2nd, 2003, 12:13 PM

Just check out www.bmw.com.au for details of the various courses

jaydub · Sep 2nd, 2003, 02:04 PM

Hi MrMow,

Glad you had fun on the day! I remember our big long discussion after I went on the Advanced 2 course back in May...the course is so fun it just makes you want to tell the world!

But is all they do on the day what you described? Because they covered all of those in Advanced 2...I just wanna know if it's worth my money to go on your course!

Even if it is similar, a full day in an M3 should be worth it

MrMow · Sep 2nd, 2003, 11:46 PM

Yup, thats what they covered, but the impression I got was that its all a bit faster and it all in M3s.. but seeing the other one is $800 odd, I dont know if I'd pay 1300 for exclusive use of the M3.

MrMow · Sep 2nd, 2003, 11:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by WAY

The Porsche one combines their Level 1 and 2 together. I don't think you can do level 2 without Level 1 at the same time. IT cost $1125 for the one day level 1 and $2250 for the combined one. I don't mind, but my GF will not be happy that I am going to spend that kind of money on a driving course. Will see what she says when I propose this to her...

Dude, you may have to propose something else to get that proposal approved!!

WAY · Sep 2nd, 2003, 11:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MrMow

Dude, you may have to propose something else to get that proposal approved!!

I hope she doesn't read this or else I am in trouble!!! I haven't talked to her about the advanced driving course yet, but I'm sure when I do her first reaction would be "that $2000+ could go to the ring". Hehehe. You are right, maybe I should propose to her first if I want to get ANYTHING ELSE approved!

IML337 · Sep 3rd, 2003, 11:56 AM

This reminds me - I need to do the level 2 course so I can do the all M3 level 3 course, and I need to confirm that my BMW club membership gets me a 10 or 20% discount like jaydub was telling me

jaydub · Sep 3rd, 2003, 12:05 PM

25% Tim! I don't think there's any more Level 2 Fascination courses this year though...I might do the course with you next year!

Sep 1st, 2003, 11:38 PM	#1
MrMow MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 09:39 AM Posts: 185 Offline	BMW Driver training.. - AUS I just did the M3 training course on Sunday down at Phillip island.. man it was fun, I highly recommend it! The day started with some (slow) laps, followed by some oversteer exercises (I managed to spin the damn car everytime though did excecute a perfect 360'!!), then some high speed braking exercises. There was an awesome motorkhana event (I quickly realised how crap I was ), then the day was rounded off with some fairly quick laps, our group (of 2 cars) had Geoff Brabham as our instructor, its very cool to be going through a corner and getting feedback as to why you were pushing the front or missed the apex. After 10 or so laps, I was feeling pretty fast... the Geoff took us for a lap with him driving... Jeebus!! He was quick. All in all a great day! The M3 is awesome, sounds great and goes sooo fast! But.... I preferred my Cooper S, wouldnt get rid of in for an M3, no way! Last edited by swamos : Sep 2nd, 2003 at 02:40 AM.

Sep 2nd, 2003, 02:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
WAY MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 09:39 AM Posts: 470 Offline	I've wanted to do that for awhile! Mr Mow, how much was the course? This is the level 2 one? Used to be $880. I am really keen to do it, along with a couple of my friends. Tell me more!

Sep 2nd, 2003, 02:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
jaydub MINI2 Maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sydney, NSW Local Time: 10:39 AM Posts: 217 Offline	Hi MrMow, Glad you had fun on the day! I remember our big long discussion after I went on the Advanced 2 course back in May...the course is so fun it just makes you want to tell the world! But is all they do on the day what you described? Because they covered all of those in Advanced 2...I just wanna know if it's worth my money to go on your course! Even if it is similar, a full day in an M3 should be worth it Where have I been for all these months?

Sep 3rd, 2003, 12:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
jaydub MINI2 Maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sydney, NSW Local Time: 10:39 AM Posts: 217 Offline	25% Tim! I don't think there's any more Level 2 Fascination courses this year though...I might do the course with you next year! Where have I been for all these months?

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Sep 2nd, 2003, 05:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
MrMow MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 09:39 AM Posts: 185 Offline	Hey welcome back dude! I did the level 3 course (perfection? Fascination?).. its all M3, was about $1300, I hear the level 2 is just as good (325 and M3), you have to do a level 1 or 2 before the M3 course. Expensive.. but you get to drive somone elses M3 for the day! Dont have to worry about tyres and get tuition from Geaoff Brabham!

Sep 2nd, 2003, 05:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
WAY MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 09:39 AM Posts: 470 Offline	Thanks dude. Good to be back here, eventhough I don't have a Cooper S anymore. Good to see you are enjoying the S as well, better than the Cooper huh? Is the quality much better on the new car than the old one? No more suspension problems? Doesn't sound like you have done the Level 2 course. I have done level 1 with BMW and done some other advanced driving with Lamborghini at Phillip Island recently. It was awsome. It was only open to owners of Lambo, Ferrari, and Porsche and by invitation only. My friend has one of the 5 Murcielago's in Melbourne, so he got me invited. I was actually faster than most cars, overtaking most of the much more fancy Lambos and Ferraris. Had a few laps with Paul Stokell in the Murcielago. Man, that's even better than around there with Geoff Brahram in an M3 (E36) previously! But I digress. My point is do you think I can get away with not having done BMW's level 2 course? I can drive pretty well (I think) but what kind of skills do I need to have before doing level 3? My other alternative is going up to Mt Cotton to do the Porsche one. Trashing someone else's Porsche is even better.

Sep 2nd, 2003, 06:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
MrMow MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 09:39 AM Posts: 185 Offline	Oh, if you have done the level 1 its fine, I never did the level 2.. but the Porsche one.. that would be awesome! Yes, the S is much better than the Cooper, very few problems.. just rattles and squeaks.

Sep 2nd, 2003, 07:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
WAY MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 09:39 AM Posts: 470 Offline	The Porsche one combines their Level 1 and 2 together. I don't think you can do level 2 without Level 1 at the same time. IT cost $1125 for the one day level 1 and $2250 for the combined one. I don't mind, but my GF will not be happy that I am going to spend that kind of money on a driving course. Will see what she says when I propose this to her...

Sep 2nd, 2003, 08:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
eltel MINIstry of Fun Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eastern Suburbs, Mel Local Time: 09:39 AM Posts: 1,593 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by WAY . I was actually faster than most cars, overtaking most of the much more fancy Lambos and Ferraris. Why am I not surprised. Way to go.

Sep 2nd, 2003, 12:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
Harry Morant The Iron Pyrite Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canberra ACT Local Time: 09:39 AM Posts: 835 Offline	Just check out www.bmw.com.au for details of the various courses

Sep 2nd, 2003, 11:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
MrMow MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 09:39 AM Posts: 185 Offline	Yup, thats what they covered, but the impression I got was that its all a bit faster and it all in M3s.. but seeing the other one is $800 odd, I dont know if I'd pay 1300 for exclusive use of the M3.

Sep 2nd, 2003, 11:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
MrMow MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 09:39 AM Posts: 185 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by WAY The Porsche one combines their Level 1 and 2 together. I don't think you can do level 2 without Level 1 at the same time. IT cost $1125 for the one day level 1 and $2250 for the combined one. I don't mind, but my GF will not be happy that I am going to spend that kind of money on a driving course. Will see what she says when I propose this to her... Dude, you may have to propose something else to get that proposal approved!!

Sep 2nd, 2003, 11:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
WAY MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 09:39 AM Posts: 470 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MrMow Dude, you may have to propose something else to get that proposal approved!! I hope she doesn't read this or else I am in trouble!!! I haven't talked to her about the advanced driving course yet, but I'm sure when I do her first reaction would be "that $2000+ could go to the ring". Hehehe. You are right, maybe I should propose to her first if I want to get ANYTHING ELSE approved!

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IML337 saving the world Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Aus Local Time: 09:39 AM Posts: 3,063 Offline	This reminds me - I need to do the level 2 course so I can do the all M3 level 3 course, and I need to confirm that my BMW club membership gets me a 10 or 20% discount like jaydub was telling me