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MrMow · Sep 9th, 2003, 09:06 AM

Got a call form my dealer telling me my car must go in for a recall campaign, anyone know what its for?

KenL · Sep 9th, 2003, 09:10 AM

Please phone him and ask.

MrMow · Sep 9th, 2003, 12:37 PM

Uh Thanks Ken.. why didn't I think of that?!!

swamos · Sep 9th, 2003, 02:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MrMow

Uh Thanks Ken.. why didn't I think of that?!!

Harry Morant · Sep 9th, 2003, 02:28 PM

There no news about recent MINI recalls on the government recall site at http://www.recalls.gov.au but there is one from March this year which I don't "recall"

MINI Cooper, and Cooper S
Date: 13/03/2003

Supplier: BMW Australia Limited

Category: Motor Vehicles

Product Info: Model Year 2002. Campaign 00 33 43 01 00.

Defect details: The rear lower spring strut threaded connection may cause a failure of the mounting bolt.

Consumer action: Contact your BMW Dealer.

Make: MINI

Model: Cooper, Cooper S

Model Years From: 2002

Consequences: If the bolt fails the vehicle will be lowered and may contact the rear wheel.

Campaign Number: 00 33 43 01 00

Market Coverage: National

Recall Coverage: National

swamos · Sep 9th, 2003, 02:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Harry Morant

There no news about recent MINI recalls on the government recall site at http://www.recalls.gov.au but there is one from March this year which I don't "recall"
Defect details: The rear lower spring strut threaded connection may cause a failure of the mounting bolt.

I absolutely love how dry those notices are. They describe the mechanical consequence of a action. What they don't say is that "The vehicle will veer uncontrollably to the side and most probably meet a tree, in which case we'll deny all knowledge......."

Harry Morant · Sep 9th, 2003, 02:40 PM

The way some MINI drivers swerve all over the place you'd think they had the fault all the time

jaydub · Sep 10th, 2003, 01:39 AM

Hi,

I had my car in to fix another problem 2 weeks ago, and they said there was a recall on my car. They repleaced the insulation inside the bonnet for me, not quite sure why as I wasn't too interested to ask and in a bit of a rush. However, I got back home and noticed that my bonnet is now a bit higher than it used to be, and the panel gaps worse, especially on the trailing edge (the edge closest to the windscreen)

So I'm going to go in and have it checked again soon....

I don't know if this is a problem for all Minis or just Coopers though...

NEMINI · Sep 10th, 2003, 01:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Harry Morant

There no news about recent MINI recalls on the government recall site at http://www.recalls.gov.au but there is one from March this year which I don't "recall"

MINI Cooper, and Cooper S
Date: 13/03/2003

Supplier: BMW Australia Limited

Category: Motor Vehicles

Product Info: Model Year 2002. Campaign 00 33 43 01 00.

Defect details: The rear lower spring strut threaded connection may cause a failure of the mounting bolt.

Consumer action: Contact your BMW Dealer.

Make: MINI

Model: Cooper, Cooper S

Model Years From: 2002

Consequences: If the bolt fails the vehicle will be lowered and may contact the rear wheel.

Campaign Number: 00 33 43 01 00

Market Coverage: National

Recall Coverage: National

That recall only covered cars built during a ~2 month window (forgot the build dates it affected) that why you probably didn't get it, it wasn't ALL MINI's

CanberraCooperS · Sep 10th, 2003, 05:55 AM

Build dates where from November 22 through to mid Jan models

AndrewH · Sep 10th, 2003, 08:10 AM

According to DOTARS, build dates were 25 Sept to 14 Nov 02

Problem: Rear lower strut spring disconnection
Make: MINI
Model: Cooper, Cooper S
Variant:
Date Range: 25 September 2002 to 14 November 2002
VIN Ranges:
Status: Active
Defect: The rear lower spring strut secuing bolts may fail.
Consequences: If the bolt fails the vehicle will lower and contact the rear wheel. Road handling can then no longer be reliably maintained.
Corrective action: BMW dealers will replace the bolts. New P/No 33 50 6 759 206
Notif. Date: 26/02/2003
DOTARS No.: R03/020
Supplier Name: BMW
Campaign No.: 00 33 43 01 00

gazah · Sep 13th, 2003, 02:49 PM

yep, oct '02 & i had the bolts replaced!

MrMow · Sep 17th, 2003, 12:55 AM

Car went in yesterday, recall was for bonnet insulation.. But you know what annoys the hell out of me, I KNOW they have done other things, I just KNOW it, the car feels different.. grrrrrrrr!

jaydub · Sep 17th, 2003, 06:33 AM

MrMow,

Thats exactly what mine went in for (refer earlier post). And I totally agree with you - it feels different! Well I know the problem...the bonnet isn't fitted proper on mine...GRRRRRRR!

swamos · Sep 17th, 2003, 09:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by jaydub

MrMow,

Thats exactly what mine went in for (refer earlier post). And I totally agree with you - it feels different! Well I know the problem...the bonnet isn't fitted proper on mine...GRRRRRRR!

Now I know I'm talking to myself as usual, but GET THE WHEELS ALIGNED by a suspension specialist. I bet that's why it feels different.

eltel · Sep 17th, 2003, 12:59 PM

Before you drop your MINI into a suspension shop, ask them clearly if they have the specs from BMW. I waited at Pedder's for over an hour for BMW to give the specs to Pedder's and eventually left. Got it done at the dealer.

swamos · Sep 17th, 2003, 01:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by eltel

Before you drop your MINI into a suspension shop, ask them clearly if they have the specs from BMW. I waited at Pedder's for over an hour for BMW to give the specs to Pedder's and eventually left. Got it done at the dealer.

Good point Eltel.

The only problem with that is that the dealers are notorious at not telling you if there are any problems. Say one side of the car has more castor than the other, they are hardly likely to speak up and recommend that you should get a camber adjustment kit out of MINI. They rarely tell you what the actual setting were.

In my case they left the rear bolts loose, which if I'd waited till the first service to get an alignment would have destoryed the rear tyres or worse. I don't trust my dealer enough to find the problem and voluntarily replace tyres or suspension components.

The last alignment I had done by the dealer they didn't even tell me what the alignment was. I asked, and they just said it was fine, and then went into this spiel about how two wheel alignments are never the same, and each time they fit the machine they will get a different readine..... That will be the first of 4 alignments that my car has had in its short 17k life where they have been vaguely even close to lined up. Funny, repeatability isn't a problem for our Japanese car

One of my rear wheels has more camber than the other side. I intend to ask for it to be fixed before the warranty expiration. I can prove to them that the car has been like it since new. Can you?

Sep 9th, 2003, 09:06 AM	#1
MrMow MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 183 Offline	Melb Cooper S Recall.. Got a call form my dealer telling me my car must go in for a recall campaign, anyone know what its for?

Sep 9th, 2003, 09:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 08:17 PM Posts: 5,102 Online	Please phone him and ask. Red/Black R56 Cooper

Sep 10th, 2003, 01:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
jaydub MINI2 Maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sydney, NSW Local Time: 07:17 AM Posts: 213 Offline	Hi, I had my car in to fix another problem 2 weeks ago, and they said there was a recall on my car. They repleaced the insulation inside the bonnet for me, not quite sure why as I wasn't too interested to ask and in a bit of a rush. However, I got back home and noticed that my bonnet is now a bit higher than it used to be, and the panel gaps worse, especially on the trailing edge (the edge closest to the windscreen) So I'm going to go in and have it checked again soon.... I don't know if this is a problem for all Minis or just Coopers though... Where have I been for all these months?

Sep 10th, 2003, 01:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 03:17 PM Posts: 7,866 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Harry Morant There no news about recent MINI recalls on the government recall site at http://www.recalls.gov.au but there is one from March this year which I don't "recall" MINI Cooper, and Cooper S Date: 13/03/2003 Supplier: BMW Australia Limited Category: Motor Vehicles Product Info: Model Year 2002. Campaign 00 33 43 01 00. Defect details: The rear lower spring strut threaded connection may cause a failure of the mounting bolt. Consumer action: Contact your BMW Dealer. Make: MINI Model: Cooper, Cooper S Model Years From: 2002 Consequences: If the bolt fails the vehicle will be lowered and may contact the rear wheel. Campaign Number: 00 33 43 01 00 Market Coverage: National Recall Coverage: National That recall only covered cars built during a ~2 month window (forgot the build dates it affected) that why you probably didn't get it, it wasn't ALL MINI's NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Sep 13th, 2003, 02:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
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Sep 9th, 2003, 12:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
MrMow MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 183 Offline	Uh Thanks Ken.. why didn't I think of that?!!

Sep 9th, 2003, 02:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 4,985 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MrMow Uh Thanks Ken.. why didn't I think of that?!!

Sep 9th, 2003, 02:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Harry Morant The Iron Pyrite Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canberra ACT Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 830 Offline	There no news about recent MINI recalls on the government recall site at http://www.recalls.gov.au but there is one from March this year which I don't "recall" MINI Cooper, and Cooper S Date: 13/03/2003 Supplier: BMW Australia Limited Category: Motor Vehicles Product Info: Model Year 2002. Campaign 00 33 43 01 00. Defect details: The rear lower spring strut threaded connection may cause a failure of the mounting bolt. Consumer action: Contact your BMW Dealer. Make: MINI Model: Cooper, Cooper S Model Years From: 2002 Consequences: If the bolt fails the vehicle will be lowered and may contact the rear wheel. Campaign Number: 00 33 43 01 00 Market Coverage: National Recall Coverage: National

Sep 9th, 2003, 02:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 4,985 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Harry Morant There no news about recent MINI recalls on the government recall site at http://www.recalls.gov.au but there is one from March this year which I don't "recall" Defect details: The rear lower spring strut threaded connection may cause a failure of the mounting bolt. I absolutely love how dry those notices are. They describe the mechanical consequence of a action. What they don't say is that "The vehicle will veer uncontrollably to the side and most probably meet a tree, in which case we'll deny all knowledge......."

Sep 9th, 2003, 02:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
Harry Morant The Iron Pyrite Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canberra ACT Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 830 Offline	The way some MINI drivers swerve all over the place you'd think they had the fault all the time

Sep 10th, 2003, 05:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
CanberraCooperS Gone Old School Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canberra Local Time: 07:17 AM Posts: 746 Offline	Build dates where from November 22 through to mid Jan models

Sep 10th, 2003, 08:10 AM	#11 (permalink)
AndrewH Were there Oompa loompas? Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canberra Local Time: 07:17 AM Posts: 4,181 Offline	According to DOTARS, build dates were 25 Sept to 14 Nov 02 Problem: Rear lower strut spring disconnection Make: MINI Model: Cooper, Cooper S Variant: Date Range: 25 September 2002 to 14 November 2002 VIN Ranges: Status: Active Defect: The rear lower spring strut secuing bolts may fail. Consequences: If the bolt fails the vehicle will lower and contact the rear wheel. Road handling can then no longer be reliably maintained. Corrective action: BMW dealers will replace the bolts. New P/No 33 50 6 759 206 Notif. Date: 26/02/2003 DOTARS No.: R03/020 Supplier Name: BMW Campaign No.: 00 33 43 01 00

Sep 17th, 2003, 12:55 AM	#13 (permalink)
MrMow MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 183 Offline	Car went in yesterday, recall was for bonnet insulation.. But you know what annoys the hell out of me, I KNOW they have done other things, I just KNOW it, the car feels different.. grrrrrrrr!

Sep 17th, 2003, 06:33 AM	#14 (permalink)
jaydub MINI2 Maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sydney, NSW Local Time: 07:17 AM Posts: 213 Offline	MrMow, Thats exactly what mine went in for (refer earlier post). And I totally agree with you - it feels different! Well I know the problem...the bonnet isn't fitted proper on mine...GRRRRRRR! Where have I been for all these months?

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Sep 17th, 2003, 09:00 AM	#15 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 4,985 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by jaydub MrMow, Thats exactly what mine went in for (refer earlier post). And I totally agree with you - it feels different! Well I know the problem...the bonnet isn't fitted proper on mine...GRRRRRRR! Now I know I'm talking to myself as usual, but GET THE WHEELS ALIGNED by a suspension specialist. I bet that's why it feels different.

Sep 17th, 2003, 12:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
eltel MINIstry of Fun Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eastern Suburbs, Mel Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 1,566 Offline	Before you drop your MINI into a suspension shop, ask them clearly if they have the specs from BMW. I waited at Pedder's for over an hour for BMW to give the specs to Pedder's and eventually left. Got it done at the dealer.

Sep 17th, 2003, 01:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 4,985 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by eltel Before you drop your MINI into a suspension shop, ask them clearly if they have the specs from BMW. I waited at Pedder's for over an hour for BMW to give the specs to Pedder's and eventually left. Got it done at the dealer. Good point Eltel. The only problem with that is that the dealers are notorious at not telling you if there are any problems. Say one side of the car has more castor than the other, they are hardly likely to speak up and recommend that you should get a camber adjustment kit out of MINI. They rarely tell you what the actual setting were. In my case they left the rear bolts loose, which if I'd waited till the first service to get an alignment would have destoryed the rear tyres or worse. I don't trust my dealer enough to find the problem and voluntarily replace tyres or suspension components. The last alignment I had done by the dealer they didn't even tell me what the alignment was. I asked, and they just said it was fine, and then went into this spiel about how two wheel alignments are never the same, and each time they fit the machine they will get a different readine..... That will be the first of 4 alignments that my car has had in its short 17k life where they have been vaguely even close to lined up. Funny, repeatability isn't a problem for our Japanese car One of my rear wheels has more camber than the other side. I intend to ask for it to be fixed before the warranty expiration. I can prove to them that the car has been like it since new. Can you?

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