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ozmini · Jan 15th, 2004, 11:38 AM

Hmmm... shame really. The other guys seem quite straight forward.

I am puzzled as to why there is not an "in car" pulley puller among the whole lot of them in Sydney though? Is there really such a low call for pulley changes here compared to elsewhere? And these pullers are now just $200 or so from many online shops in the US and UK. Instead we ship one in from Vic each time each time at $95 a pop or as part of a package... something doesn't make sense?

TRELO · Apr 7th, 2004, 02:28 AM

I was talking to Nick at Peak Performance yesturday and he told me Hartge has sent him details on the 250hp kit. If you have the Hartge upgrade already ( like me

) , it will cost me only 400euro ( aprox AU$1000 ) for the 250hp upgrade.......mmmmm.....now let me see how much cash is in my bedside draw

ScottyB · Apr 7th, 2004, 02:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO

I was talking to Nick at Peak Performance yesturday and he told me Hartge has sent him details on the 250hp kit. If you have the Hartge upgrade already ( like me

) , it will cost me only 400euro ( aprox AU$1000 ) for the 250hp upgrade.......mmmmm.....now let me see how much cash is in my bedside draw

250bhp!

sweet

ScottyB · Apr 7th, 2004, 03:04 AM

Whats the Hartge kit worth to start with?

Cause that 1000 bucks for an extra 35HP over your 215 kit, makes the JCW 37HP seem massively overpriced at 10 grand...

Greendevil · Apr 7th, 2004, 03:22 AM

Trelo,

What are the upgraded components of the Hartge package? A big valve head and new blower?

An extra 30hp for $1000 is great value.

Cheers

Greendevil (Carl)

warped · Apr 7th, 2004, 04:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO

I was talking to Nick at Peak Performance yesturday and he told me Hartge has sent him details on the 250hp kit. If you have the Hartge upgrade already ( like me

) , it will cost me only 400euro ( aprox AU$1000 ) for the 250hp upgrade.......mmmmm.....now let me see how much cash is in my bedside draw

mmm ... I think I would also save a few extra pennies to pay for the replacement drive train

I would be waiting to see a few other people take the plunge and see how the the gear box holds up, from memory I think 250bhp is getting very close to the upper tolerance of the MCS standard box ... that might make the upgrade a little more expensive

robbo mcs · Apr 7th, 2004, 04:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by warped

mmm ... I think I would also save a few extra pennies to pay for the replacement drive train

I would be waiting to see a few other people take the plunge and see how the the gear box holds up, from memory I think 250bhp is getting very close to the upper tolerance of the MCS standard box ... that might make the upgrade a little more expensive

Hi,

Chris will have to start charging more for his spuds!

It looks interesting, and I would like to find out more details of exactly what the upgrade involves.

Robbo

TRELO · Apr 7th, 2004, 10:52 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil

Trelo,

What are the upgraded components of the Hartge package? A big valve head and new blower?

An extra 30hp for $1000 is great value.

Cheers

Greendevil (Carl)

Believe it or not , its another ECU upgrade only

. But it will only work if you have the Hartge upgrade

TRELO · Apr 7th, 2004, 10:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by warped

mmm ... I think I would also save a few extra pennies to pay for the replacement drive train

I would be waiting to see a few other people take the plunge and see how the the gear box holds up, from memory I think 250bhp is getting very close to the upper tolerance of the MCS standard box ... that might make the upgrade a little more expensive

I think my gearbox is about to let go soon

. If I get the upgrade, I can blame it on that rather than my driving

ScottyB · Apr 7th, 2004, 11:25 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO

Believe it or not , its another ECU upgrade only

. But it will only work if you have the Hartge upgrade

Dead set!

So what sort of dollars is a 215hp Hartge kit in the first place, before this step?

TRELO · Apr 7th, 2004, 11:31 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyB

Dead set!

So what sort of dollars is a 215hp Hartge kit in the first place, before this step?

215hp = $5000

cheap hey

and before you ask for Peak's phone # 02 9683 5577

ScottyB · Apr 7th, 2004, 11:35 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO

215hp = $5000

cheap hey

and before you ask for Peak's phone # 02 9683 5577

Bargain!

So 6 grand for 250HP....

Brilliant!

TRELO · Apr 7th, 2004, 11:39 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyB

Bargain!

So 6 grand for 250HP....

Brilliant!

Yep

ScottyB · Apr 7th, 2004, 11:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO

Yep

Cant wait to see your times at EC when youve got the chip on

TRELO · Apr 7th, 2004, 11:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyB

Cant wait to see your times at EC when youve got the chip on

That's if I get it. I really , really want a turbo conversion

ScottyB · Apr 7th, 2004, 11:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO

That's if I get it. I really , really want a turbo conversion

naaaaa. you dont want the lag. itll kill the lower end too, being a 1.6.

Whats on offer in the turbo aspect of MINIfication? Someone do a package? Or would it all have to be custom?

TRELO · Apr 7th, 2004, 12:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyB

naaaaa. you dont want the lag. itll kill the lower end too, being a 1.6.

Whats on offer in the turbo aspect of MINIfication? Someone do a package? Or would it all have to be custom?

Custom , supercharged & turbo

ScottyB · Apr 7th, 2004, 12:07 PM

Supercharged AND turbo? Is that possible?

I think they tried the same thing back in the late 70's / early 80's with the Mercedes Sauber racing C9 TS. I thought they negated each other when ran in parallel, or rather, provided no benefit over one or the other...

That was a long time ago I guess.

FLiPSiDE · Apr 7th, 2004, 12:28 PM

nissan used a supercharged turbo engine in the Micra Super S or whatever it was with some sucess

i've seen a fair few tuners try it on skyline engines and v8's around the place and im sure i saw something about a Mini having it done around this site somewhere...

C'mon trelo make with the spuds and lets see it done it would be freakin awesome

ScottyB · Apr 7th, 2004, 12:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by FLiPSiDE

nissan used a supercharged turbo engine in the Micra Super S or whatever it was with some sucess

i've seen a fair few tuners try it on skyline engines and v8's around the place and im sure i saw something about a Mini having it done around this site somewhere...

C'mon trelo make with the spuds and lets see it done it would be freakin awesome

But again, they arent run together - the Micra Super Turbo, as it was called, used a Supercharger to wind the revs up, and then the turbo charger to complete the overall charge. EXTREMELY complicated and never sound. Not to mention that because they arent run together, the transition between the two is very jerky, also stressful on components.

This is twincharging. Im no engineer or mechanic, but as far as I know it doesnt work too well. If it did, Im sure it would be used alot more often...

Apr 7th, 2004, 02:28 AM	#22 (permalink)
TRELO Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pulled over by Cops Local Time: 06:19 AM Posts: 1,173 Offline	Hartge 250hp kit I was talking to Nick at Peak Performance yesturday and he told me Hartge has sent him details on the 250hp kit. If you have the Hartge upgrade already ( like me ) , it will cost me only 400euro ( aprox AU$1000 ) for the 250hp upgrade.......mmmmm.....now let me see how much cash is in my bedside draw

Apr 7th, 2004, 03:22 AM	#25 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:19 AM Posts: 298 Offline	Hartge upgrade Trelo, What are the upgraded components of the Hartge package? A big valve head and new blower? An extra 30hp for $1000 is great value. Cheers Greendevil (Carl) BMW E36 M3R Alpine White - Engine : 6 cylinder; DOHC 24 valve Capacity : 2990cc Power : 243KW @ 7000 rpm Torque : 323NM @ 3900rpm Produced : Jan - May 1995 How many :15 ONLY

Apr 7th, 2004, 04:43 AM	#27 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:19 AM Posts: 2,620 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by warped mmm ... I think I would also save a few extra pennies to pay for the replacement drive train I would be waiting to see a few other people take the plunge and see how the the gear box holds up, from memory I think 250bhp is getting very close to the upper tolerance of the MCS standard box ... that might make the upgrade a little more expensive Hi, Chris will have to start charging more for his spuds! It looks interesting, and I would like to find out more details of exactly what the upgrade involves. Robbo Mods: GO MADDIE and SPARKY!

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Jan 15th, 2004, 11:38 AM	#21
ozmini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Local Time: 06:19 AM Posts: 83 Offline	Hmmm... shame really. The other guys seem quite straight forward. I am puzzled as to why there is not an "in car" pulley puller among the whole lot of them in Sydney though? Is there really such a low call for pulley changes here compared to elsewhere? And these pullers are now just $200 or so from many online shops in the US and UK. Instead we ship one in from Vic each time each time at $95 a pop or as part of a package... something doesn't make sense?

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Apr 7th, 2004, 02:51 AM	#23 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:19 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO I was talking to Nick at Peak Performance yesturday and he told me Hartge has sent him details on the 250hp kit. If you have the Hartge upgrade already ( like me ) , it will cost me only 400euro ( aprox AU$1000 ) for the 250hp upgrade.......mmmmm.....now let me see how much cash is in my bedside draw 250bhp! sweet

Apr 7th, 2004, 03:04 AM	#24 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:19 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Whats the Hartge kit worth to start with? Cause that 1000 bucks for an extra 35HP over your 215 kit, makes the JCW 37HP seem massively overpriced at 10 grand...

Apr 7th, 2004, 04:30 AM	#26 (permalink)
warped JCW No. 1459 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Neutral Bay, Sydney Local Time: 06:19 AM Posts: 869 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO I was talking to Nick at Peak Performance yesturday and he told me Hartge has sent him details on the 250hp kit. If you have the Hartge upgrade already ( like me ) , it will cost me only 400euro ( aprox AU$1000 ) for the 250hp upgrade.......mmmmm.....now let me see how much cash is in my bedside draw mmm ... I think I would also save a few extra pennies to pay for the replacement drive train I would be waiting to see a few other people take the plunge and see how the the gear box holds up, from memory I think 250bhp is getting very close to the upper tolerance of the MCS standard box ... that might make the upgrade a little more expensive

Apr 7th, 2004, 10:52 AM	#28 (permalink)
TRELO Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pulled over by Cops Local Time: 06:19 AM Posts: 1,173 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil Trelo, What are the upgraded components of the Hartge package? A big valve head and new blower? An extra 30hp for $1000 is great value. Cheers Greendevil (Carl) Believe it or not , its another ECU upgrade only . But it will only work if you have the Hartge upgrade

Apr 7th, 2004, 10:54 AM	#29 (permalink)
TRELO Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pulled over by Cops Local Time: 06:19 AM Posts: 1,173 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by warped mmm ... I think I would also save a few extra pennies to pay for the replacement drive train I would be waiting to see a few other people take the plunge and see how the the gear box holds up, from memory I think 250bhp is getting very close to the upper tolerance of the MCS standard box ... that might make the upgrade a little more expensive I think my gearbox is about to let go soon . If I get the upgrade, I can blame it on that rather than my driving

Apr 7th, 2004, 11:25 AM	#30 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:19 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO Believe it or not , its another ECU upgrade only . But it will only work if you have the Hartge upgrade Dead set! So what sort of dollars is a 215hp Hartge kit in the first place, before this step?

Apr 7th, 2004, 11:31 AM	#31 (permalink)
TRELO Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pulled over by Cops Local Time: 06:19 AM Posts: 1,173 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyB Dead set! So what sort of dollars is a 215hp Hartge kit in the first place, before this step? 215hp = $5000 cheap hey and before you ask for Peak's phone # 02 9683 5577

Apr 7th, 2004, 11:35 AM	#32 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:19 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO 215hp = $5000 cheap hey and before you ask for Peak's phone # 02 9683 5577 Bargain! So 6 grand for 250HP.... Brilliant!

Apr 7th, 2004, 11:39 AM	#33 (permalink)
TRELO Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pulled over by Cops Local Time: 06:19 AM Posts: 1,173 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyB Bargain! So 6 grand for 250HP.... Brilliant! Yep

Apr 7th, 2004, 11:44 AM	#34 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:19 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO Yep Cant wait to see your times at EC when youve got the chip on

Apr 7th, 2004, 11:47 AM	#35 (permalink)
TRELO Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pulled over by Cops Local Time: 06:19 AM Posts: 1,173 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyB Cant wait to see your times at EC when youve got the chip on That's if I get it. I really , really want a turbo conversion

Apr 7th, 2004, 11:51 AM	#36 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:19 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO That's if I get it. I really , really want a turbo conversion naaaaa. you dont want the lag. itll kill the lower end too, being a 1.6. Whats on offer in the turbo aspect of MINIfication? Someone do a package? Or would it all have to be custom?

Apr 7th, 2004, 12:00 PM	#37 (permalink)
TRELO Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pulled over by Cops Local Time: 06:19 AM Posts: 1,173 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyB naaaaa. you dont want the lag. itll kill the lower end too, being a 1.6. Whats on offer in the turbo aspect of MINIfication? Someone do a package? Or would it all have to be custom? Custom , supercharged & turbo

Apr 7th, 2004, 12:07 PM	#38 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:19 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Supercharged AND turbo? Is that possible? I think they tried the same thing back in the late 70's / early 80's with the Mercedes Sauber racing C9 TS. I thought they negated each other when ran in parallel, or rather, provided no benefit over one or the other... That was a long time ago I guess.

Apr 7th, 2004, 12:28 PM	#39 (permalink)
FLiPSiDE I am Jacks wasted life Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 06:19 AM Posts: 566 Offline	nissan used a supercharged turbo engine in the Micra Super S or whatever it was with some sucess i've seen a fair few tuners try it on skyline engines and v8's around the place and im sure i saw something about a Mini having it done around this site somewhere... C'mon trelo make with the spuds and lets see it done it would be freakin awesome

Apr 7th, 2004, 12:38 PM	#40 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:19 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by FLiPSiDE nissan used a supercharged turbo engine in the Micra Super S or whatever it was with some sucess i've seen a fair few tuners try it on skyline engines and v8's around the place and im sure i saw something about a Mini having it done around this site somewhere... C'mon trelo make with the spuds and lets see it done it would be freakin awesome But again, they arent run together - the Micra Super Turbo, as it was called, used a Supercharger to wind the revs up, and then the turbo charger to complete the overall charge. EXTREMELY complicated and never sound. Not to mention that because they arent run together, the transition between the two is very jerky, also stressful on components. This is twincharging. Im no engineer or mechanic, but as far as I know it doesnt work too well. If it did, Im sure it would be used alot more often...

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