[Greendevil]

Guys,

Just wondering if anyone from MINI2 is participating in the BMW Club's practice day @ Wakefield for this coming Monday on the 10th May?

Before I head there I am having an adjustable sway bar fitted. Am also ditching the runflats and probably just getting some Falkens as an interim measure until I get some new light-weight 16" rims and nice soft rubber..

I am really hoping to shave a sec or two off my current 1.21min runflat Wakefield time. There appears to be a general thumbs up on the swaybar and with the runflats, well, what can you say?

[ScottyB]

You've lost most of the MINI2 oz contingent to the Tas run.

My car wont be in till 2nd week of June, so Im also out

MINI2 is going to be sooo quiet....

[FLiPSiDE]

and i dont have a license till the following thursday.. but have fun

[2bob]

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyB

You've lost most of the MINI2 oz contingent to the Tas run.

My car wont be in till 2nd week of June, so Im also out

MINI2 is going to be sooo quiet....

Scotty, I am going to a conference in South Africa 22May so will still be on line until then.

Posts from alan will keep us hopefully informed!

[ScottyB]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2bob

Scotty, I am going to a conference in South Africa 22May so will still be on line until then.

Posts from alan will keep us hopefully informed!

Kewl. So we'll still have a few regular/semi-regular posters around

The fate of the tassy run now rests in Alans hands.... at least for us not going

[robbo mcs]

Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil

Guys,

Just wondering if anyone from MINI2 is participating in the BMW Club's practice day @ Wakefield for this coming Monday on the 10th May?

Before I head there I am having an adjustable sway bar fitted. Am also ditching the runflats and probably just getting some Falkens as an interim measure until I get some new light-weight 16" rims and nice soft rubber..

I am really hoping to shave a sec or two off my current 1.21min runflat Wakefield time. There appears to be a general thumbs up on the swaybar and with the runflats, well, what can you say?

Hi Carl,

I'll be in Tasmania, so wont be making it. Good luck with the new tyres and bar Hopefully it will nice and cold for the supercharger.

By the way, I went down to Wakefield for a test day a fortnight ago, and did a 1:13.54 which was 0.7 secs under my previous best.

Keep us updated with how you go on the day.

Robbo

[TRELO]

Monday is the most busiest day of the week here at the Produce Market , so unfortunatly I cant make it

[TRELO]

Quote: Originally Posted by FLiPSiDE

and i dont have a license till the following thursday.. but have fun

ha ha ha , you poor ba$tard . Not long to go anyway

[GO COOP"S]

Hi Mr T,

Would love to go down for the run, but it's a school day for me. I will be going down on the 24th June for an Aprilia demo day and to do a recky at the same time for the 27th.

Coop's.

[Greendevil]

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs

Hi Carl,

I'll be in Tasmania, so wont be making it. Good luck with the new tyres and bar Hopefully it will nice and cold for the supercharger.

By the way, I went down to Wakefield for a test day a fortnight ago, and did a 1:13.54 which was 0.7 secs under my previous best.

Keep us updated with how you go on the day.

Robbo

WOW - 1.13.54 is damn quick! You must be pretty close to maxing out the performance of your MINI now. The next few months are going to be cooler which will help but where are you hoping to pick up a little extra performance (even though you head up your class )?

I was talking to Dave Atkin regarding tyres and clarified if I got the Dunlop DO1/DO2s it would bump me up into your group ... I quickly told him I would work on driving skills for this season at the very least!! Hence holding off on those tyres and just getting some reasonably soft non-Rspec jobs. Probably just get some Falken Azenis or the like. I will let you know how the new tyre and bar combo goes with times. It would also be good to see Trelo out and about soon.

Enjoy Tassie!

[Greendevil]

Guys,

Just got back from the Wakefield practice day. The swaybar gets a thumbs up! New road tyres - not so good

Time from Easter time was 1.21.07 and is now 1.19.8. The swaybar seems to get rid of some understeer and helps you flick the back end of the car around in really tight corners and keeps the car flatter on high speed corners. A negative is that if you put in sharp inputs like a swerve manovure the car feels skitty and unbalanced. However, overall it is an improvement on both the track and street for sure. I bought some relatively inexpensive Federal 17" 205/45 tyres http://www.federaltyres.com.au/news/release_ss.htm as a stop gap until I buy some lightweight 16" rims with dedicated track rubber. Whilst these street tyres were an improvement on the runflats they literally went "off" after about 3 laps and lost progressively more and more grip. My best times were always in lap 2 or 3 and progressively worse from there. Temps were cool so it was certainly not due to loss of engine power - the tyres simply lost grip the hotter they got ...

Road tyres are designed for the road and track for track. I doubt if there is any tyre which which will happily live and perform in both worlds. I will keep the Federals for the road but will definitely get a set of track tyres and rims as a next step. In my view there is no adequate compromise. In short, the swaybar is great and avoid using any road tyre for any beyond the most occaisional track work.

[2bob]

Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil

Guys,

Just got back from the Wakefield practice day. The swaybar gets a thumbs up! New road tyres - not so good

Time from Easter time was 1.21.07 and is now 1.19.8. The swaybar seems to get rid of some understeer and helps you flick the back end of the car around in really tight corners and keeps the car flatter on high speed corners. A negative is that if you put in sharp inputs like a swerve manovure the car feels skitty and unbalanced. However, overall it is an improvement on both the track and street for sure. I bought some relatively inexpensive Federal 17" 205/45 tyres http://www.federaltyres.com.au/news/release_ss.htm as a stop gap until I buy some lightweight 16" rims with dedicated track rubber. Whilst these street tyres were an improvement on the runflats they literally went "off" after about 3 laps and lost progressively more and more grip. My best times were always in lap 2 or 3 and progressively worse from there. Temps were cool so it was certainly not due to loss of engine power - the tyres simply lost grip the hotter they got ...

Road tyres are designed for the road and track for track. I doubt if there is any tyre which which will happily live and perform in both worlds. I will keep the Federals for the road but will definitely get a set of track tyres and rims as a next step. In my view there is no adequate compromise. In short, the swaybar is great and avoid using any road tyre for any beyond the most occaisional track work.

Carl, sounds like a great day _pity about the tyres.Please tell me what size sway bar ,brand ,and who fitted it .I have done the last couple of track days with the club at eastern creek and need to go faster!

[^UB^]

Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil

I bought some relatively inexpensive Federal 17" 205/45 tyres http://www.federaltyres.com.au/news/release_ss.htm as a stop gap until I buy some lightweight 16" rims with dedicated track rubber.

Hey how much are these Federal tyres?

[Greendevil]

Hi Bob,

Yep, can highly recommend the swaybar - you will definitely notice a positive improvement and its inexpensive. It is a 3 way adjustable Whiteline swaybar which was only $225. http://www.whiteline.com.au/default....=/swaybars.htm Whiteline is really Selby Swaybars who have been doing swaybars for the Oz market for ages. You could fit it yourself easily or get your favourite mechanic to do it. It is less than 1hrs work. I sourced mine through www.qsz.com.au

I had mine set in the middle position which seemed about right. New thicker bushes are supplied as well.

Go for it!

[Greendevil]

Quote: Originally Posted by ^UB^

Hey how much are these Federal tyres?

The Federal Tyres were only $140 each and offer a better ride and grip than the stock runflats - absolutely guaranteed. Federal don't advertise which keep the overall costs down. I got 'em from Tempe Tyres http://www.tempetyres.com.au/ (fully sick but very competitive on price)

[2bob]

Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil

Hi Bob,

Yep, can highly recommend the swaybar - you will definitely notice a positive improvement and its inexpensive. It is a 3 way adjustable Whiteline swaybar which was only $225. http://www.whiteline.com.au/default....=/swaybars.htm Whiteline is really Selby Swaybars who have been doing swaybars for the Oz market for ages. You could fit it yourself easily or get your favourite mechanic to do it. It is less than 1hrs work. I sourced mine through www.qsz.com.au

I had mine set in the middle position which seemed about right. New thicker bushes are supplied as well.

Go for it!

Thanks for the info.Do you know what diameter it is ,I raced the original s in 1973 and had heasmans fit a sway bar then.Could have been Selby?

[Greendevil]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2bob

Thanks for the info.Do you know what diameter it is ,I raced the original s in 1973 and had heasmans fit a sway bar then.Could have been Selby?

20mm tube with the flattenend end with the adjustment holes was 2x as thick than stock.

[^UB^]

wow thats cheap... are they noisy!? have u had the opportunity to try them in the wet?

[Greendevil]

Quote: Originally Posted by ^UB^

wow thats cheap... are they noisy!? have u had the opportunity to try them in the wet?

Quiet and OK in the wet (it rained on Mother's Day) Better in every way compared to runflats. At $140 fitted/balanced you really can't go wrong. I came upon them almost by accident as I wanted a set of Falken Azenis but they don't make them for the Mini 17s. Compared to, say, Dunlop 9000s at $350 each I didn't have too much agonizing in giving them a go.

[2bob]

Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil

Hi Bob,

Yep, can highly recommend the swaybar - you will definitely notice a positive improvement and its inexpensive. It is a 3 way adjustable Whiteline swaybar which was only $225. http://www.whiteline.com.au/default....=/swaybars.htm Whiteline is really Selby Swaybars who have been doing swaybars for the Oz market for ages. You could fit it yourself easily or get your favourite mechanic to do it. It is less than 1hrs work. I sourced mine through www.qsz.com.au

I had mine set in the middle position which seemed about right. New thicker bushes are supplied as well.

Go for it!

Thanks! Just got home .Has been suggested that i talk with Nick at Peak Performance who has done quiet a few of the track MINIS. Will talk with him tomorrow and let you know.