[cityclinic]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mini2v

I must admit to reading all these posts about software upgrades with some mirth
I have a constant battle with Col Crawford Motors over ever hearing of a V36 upgrade and of admitting that there is a YO Yo or hesitation problem. As stated before on this forum, pre JCW my MINI ran beautifully, then I spend 9.6K and get a hesitation problem which no-one at CCM claims to be able to detect. Just delivered MINI2V back to them today for another look see, said they could keep it for a week if necessary so they can feel the problem. Fingers crossed, but running out of patience, if this does not work looks like I'm off to MGS, where hopefully i will be treated with a little respect.

Also interested in other views on squeaks in the interior, has anyone got a squeak in the drivers seat, only noticeable when alighting from the MINI

Vic

Hi Vic,

All the Dealers to my knowledge have V36 available and will upgrade at your insistance. V38 is as a result of some very long and hard tooing and frowing with MINI UK by a couple of dedicated MINI2ers about the very issue you mention above. V38 has been tested and apparently solves the problem and will be available in Aus around end June.

If you aren't getting satisfaction with your dealer . . take it somewhere else. My MINI is already booked for V38 with MGS.

[Mini2v]

Quote: Originally Posted by cityclinic

Hi Vic,

All the Dealers to my knowledge have V36 available and will upgrade at your insistance. V38 is as a result of some very long and hard tooing and frowing with MINI UK by a couple of dedicated MINI2ers about the very issue you mention above. V38 has been tested and apparently solves the problem and will be available in Aus around end June.

If you aren't getting satisfaction with your dealer . . take it somewhere else. My MINI is already booked for V38 with MGS.

Thanks Brad, this is their last chance, and they only contacted me after i put pen to paper to the Dealer Principal.

Tim, is there a fix for the squeaky seat, and has anyone else got a farting rear hatch

Some of those on Tasminia had a great laugh when my rear hatch door farted on opening

[ScottyB]

I would be surprised if the dealers dont have v37 by now. It cures the stumble/hesitation problems at least.

[Mini2v]

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyB

I would be surprised if the dealers dont have v37 by now. It cures the stumble/hesitation problems at least.

Yeah right! my dealer denies any knowledge of a problem, not happy Jan!

[ScottyB]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mini2v

Yeah right! my dealer denies any knowledge of a problem, not happy Jan!

Oh, so you mean they deny the fact that this is a (well, wont go so far as to say 'common') problem in MCS's?? What the?

[IML337]

Just a note, dealers aren't supposed to apply ECU revisions unless there is a problem they know it will fix. The ECU is only able to take about 7 or 8 revisin updates before it burns up... At least, that's what I've been told.

I guess the message is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it

[ScottyB]

But in Vic's case, it is broke

Nobody should have to deal with silly problems like that - especially after spending almost 10K on an improvement.

I have heard about that 'only 7 or 8 revisions' too, to the ECU before it self-destructs or whatever. Im 99.9% certain the chipset is not made out of ricepaper - cant really see why it would burn up by just writing new software to it... lol

There was a thread on NAM a little while back that Ill see if I can unearth again. Some bloke was saying he had his remapped a total of like 14 times and it was still going strong.

Gotta agree with you, if mine is in working order and never misses a beat, theres no way Ill let a dealer buggerize around with new software.

[swamos]

Quote: Originally Posted by IML337

Just a note, dealers aren't supposed to apply ECU revisions unless there is a problem they know it will fix. The ECU is only able to take about 7 or 8 revisin updates before it burns up... At least, that's what I've been told.

I guess the message is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it

Hadn't heard of that before. It's a worry, because mine has already been done twice that I know of.

I have v37, and my car still has the yo yo. It's never had the stumble though

I hear that 38 has been linked to the hokey pokey??

[IML337]

I didn't believe it at first either, but lots of people on MINI2 have said it, and my service manager also said it...?

Quote: Originally Posted by scottyb

There was a thread on NAM a little while back that Ill see if I can unearth again. Some bloke was saying he had his remapped a total of like 14 times and it was still going strong.

You sure he was talking about a full ECU revision upload, or just uploading maps, like you do with an AmD OneClick for example, as there's a big difference.

Quote: Originally Posted by swamos

Hadn't heard of that before. It's a worry, because mine has already been done twice that I know of.

Well mine has been done five or six times apparently, so I'm gonna stop asking now, as it's not broken anymore. MINI's they say 7 or 8 times, and other BMW's can be done up to about 12 times.

[Dooks]

Apparently there is an ECU and a DME. Don't ask me the difference, but I know I got my DME reprogrammed.

[ScottyB]

Quote: Originally Posted by IML337

You sure he was talking about a full ECU revision upload, or just uploading maps, like you do with an AmD OneClick for example, as there's a big difference.

Bad choice of words... I mean the revision.

v35, v36, v37, v38 etc.

[Amigo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mini2v

I must admit to reading all these posts about software upgrades with some mirth
I have a constant battle with Col Crawford Motors over ever hearing of a V36 upgrade and of admitting that there is a YO Yo or hesitation problem. As stated before on this forum, pre JCW my MINI ran beautifully, then I spend 9.6K and get a hesitation problem which no-one at CCM claims to be able to detect. Just delivered MINI2V back to them today for another look see, said they could keep it for a week if necessary so they can feel the problem. Fingers crossed, but running out of patience, if this does not work looks like I'm off to MGS, where hopefully i will be treated with a little respect.

Also interested in other views on squeaks in the interior, has anyone got a squeak in the drivers seat, only noticeable when alighting from the MINI

Vic

Hi Mini2v,

I also have that slight hesitation upon take-off (which has been there since day one). I actually called MGS and they were very helpful in arranging a time to perform the upgrade under warranty (with the inclusion of a free loaner as a result of warranty work).

No squeaks from seats - yet. I have one emanating from the central vent on top of the dash and an intermittent squeak near the driver door jam (near seatbelt). I'm not even bothering to have them fixed as the solution might result in further headaches.

Eddie

[^UB^]

YAY I think my car is cured

My Jan 03 built MCS was suffering from cold start problems, stumble & yo yo. As far as i know this is the first time my DME has been reprogramed, and I assume they uploaded V37, as V36 is a little old and V38 is not out yet.

Max started up at first go this morning, left the ASC on and continued to let the clutch out at 1st gear, WOW NO STUMBLE! Havent had a change to test out yo yo, as for me it was a rare occurrence. Something else has also changed for the better, it doesnt need as much slipping of the clutch to get moving from stand still.

So im very chuffed, as Max is now smoother and easier to live with as a daily driver. And special thanks to Anthony at MGS, who took care of everything on my list.

[Mini2v]

Quote: Originally Posted by Amigo

Hi Mini2v,

I also have that slight hesitation upon take-off (which has been there since day one). I actually called MGS and they were very helpful in arranging a time to perform the upgrade under warranty (with the inclusion of a free loaner as a result of warranty work).

Eddie

Eddie

Did the upgrade fix the problem?

[Mini2v]

Quote: Originally Posted by ^UB^

YAY I think my car is cured

My Jan 03 built MCS was suffering from cold start problems, stumble & yo yo. As far as i know this is the first time my DME has been reprogramed, and I assume they uploaded V37, as V36 is a little old and V38 is not out yet.

Max started up at first go this morning, left the ASC on and continued to let the clutch out at 1st gear, WOW NO STUMBLE! Havent had a change to test out yo yo, as for me it was a rare occurrence. Something else has also changed for the better, it doesnt need as much slipping of the clutch to get moving from stand still.

So im very chuffed, as Max is now smoother and easier to live with as a daily driver. And special thanks to Anthony at MGS, who took care of everything on my list.

Very interesting, I wonder if CCMotors have heard of a V37? If not MGS will get a new customer within days.

Vic

[swamos]

I believe the cold start issue is very closely linked to when the fuel companies change the volatility mix in the fuels for seasonal variations. Mine still does it apparently randomly. Then I talk to all the other guys up here, and it happens to all of us in the one week, and then goes away ...hmmmm....

[TRELO]

Quote: Originally Posted by swamos

I believe the cold start issue is very closely linked to when the fuel companies change the volatility mix in the fuels for seasonal variations. Mine still does it apparently randomly. Then I talk to all the other guys up here, and it happens to all of us in the one week, and then goes away ...hmmmm....

Not to be smart or anything , but for months I have no idea of what you people mean by the 'yo yo' or ' Cold start issue ' as I have never felt or experienced this type of engine behavior in my car .

[Amigo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mini2v

Eddie

Did the upgrade fix the problem?

Mini2V,

Something came up and I unfortunately had to cancel the upgrade. However, I do intend to have it done sooner rather than later. Sorry I couldn't give you opinion.

Eddie

[Dooks]

Sounds like lots of good rep for this Anthony gentleman! Good to hear

[enzothemaddog]

Quote: Originally Posted by ^UB^

YAY I think my car is cured

My Jan 03 built MCS was suffering from cold start problems, stumble & yo yo. As far as i know this is the first time my DME has been reprogramed, and I assume they uploaded V37, as V36 is a little old and V38 is not out yet.

Max started up at first go this morning, left the ASC on and continued to let the clutch out at 1st gear, WOW NO STUMBLE! Havent had a change to test out yo yo, as for me it was a rare occurrence. Something else has also changed for the better, it doesnt need as much slipping of the clutch to get moving from stand still.

So im very chuffed, as Max is now smoother and easier to live with as a daily driver. And special thanks to Anthony at MGS, who took care of everything on my list.

Hey Ross,
glad you got the upgrade, I noticed it instantly once I got the upgrade done about a month ago, but am now noticing a slight relapse of the problems.
Im getting something 'very special' sent from America which apparently eliminates all throttle problems, i'll try and get u one being an old brooky boy!. Give it a couple of weeks, but dont worry, it wont cost u a cent. Check out NAM 'M7 device'.