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swamos · May 26th, 2004, 11:16 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO

Not to be smart or anything , but for months I have no idea of what you people mean by the 'yo yo' or ' Cold start issue ' as I have never felt or experienced this type of engine behavior in my car

.

Well, you've bee very lucky then. The cold start issue is simply that - you try to start the engine after it has been sitting, and it will start to catch, and then stop. usually only once, but I've had it happen 3 times.

The yoyo is where the car will start surging, often in second gear with light throttle, but under some load and revs (3k+). From what I hear it seems likely that you haven't ever had this one because you have never used part throttle

I won't explain the hesitation, as I've never had it.

TRELO · May 26th, 2004, 11:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by swamos

Well, you've bee very lucky then. The cold start issue is simply that - you try to start the engine after it has been sitting, and it will start to catch, and then stop. usually only once, but I've had it happen 3 times.

The yoyo is where the car will start surging, often in second gear with light throttle, but under some load and revs (3k+). From what I hear it seems likely that you haven't ever had this one because you have never used part throttle

I won't explain the hesitation, as I've never had it.

Thanks for clearing it all up for me

. I am now VERY happy I dont have that sort of problem . Maybe the Hartge upgrade has cleared it up as I got my kit installed at 4000km.

I have to try part-throttle tomorrow for the first time

Thanks again

Darryl · May 26th, 2004, 12:35 PM

I hate it, we've had the latest software fitted and its still no better. Unless you bag up the tyres on any sort of hill on take off with ASC off, it just dies and stalls. Times like that I'd be happy to be driving anything but a Mini.

^UB^ · May 27th, 2004, 04:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Mini2v

Very interesting, I wonder if CCMotors have heard of a V37? If not MGS will get a new customer within days.

Vic

Vic im only guessing its the V37 they uploaded onto my car

I asked Anthony what version when picking up the car... he kinda dodged it by saying its the newest they have got, and i didnt push it any further.

^UB^ · May 27th, 2004, 04:07 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by enzothemaddog

Hey Ross,
glad you got the upgrade, I noticed it instantly once I got the upgrade done about a month ago, but am now noticing a slight relapse of the problems.
Im getting something 'very special' sent from America which apparently eliminates all throttle problems, i'll try and get u one being an old brooky boy!. Give it a couple of weeks, but dont worry, it wont cost u a cent. Check out NAM 'M7 device'.

Oi Nick

found the M7 thing over at NAM, very interesting. Free mod!? YES PLEASE

so yeah get me one too, ill pick it up from u and check out your car

Cheers M8

alan earnshaw · May 27th, 2004, 07:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by swamos

Hadn't heard of that before. It's a worry, because mine has already been done twice that I know of.

I have v37, and my car still has the yo yo. It's never had the stumble though

I hear that 38 has been linked to the hokey pokey??

A bit off topic, but speaking of 'Hokey Pokey'.......The guy that wrote that song Larry La Prise died recently aged 93......The most traumatic part for his family was getting him into the coffin, they put his left leg in.....and thats when the trouble started.

Mini2v · May 27th, 2004, 08:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by alan earnshaw

A bit off topic, but speaking of 'Hokey Pokey'.......The guy that wrote that song Larry La Prise died recently aged 93......The most traumatic part for his family was getting him into the coffin, they put his left leg in.....and thats when the trouble started.

I think its time for your medication alan (Beer o'clock)

ScottyB · May 27th, 2004, 08:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by alan earnshaw

A bit off topic, but speaking of 'Hokey Pokey'.......The guy that wrote that song Larry La Prise died recently aged 93......The most traumatic part for his family was getting him into the coffin, they put his left leg in.....and thats when the trouble started.

LMAO

alan earnshaw · May 27th, 2004, 08:29 AM

........Well I thought it was funny

swamos · May 27th, 2004, 09:17 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by alan earnshaw

........Well I thought it was funny

Yeppers, I'll pay that

gazah · May 27th, 2004, 09:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by alan earnshaw

.....and thats when the trouble started

HAHA!!

the brick · May 27th, 2004, 02:23 PM

Well I have my car booked in at MGS tomorrow for a check-up.

I have noticed only in the last few weeks that there is a flat spot on acceleration in 1st gear. It picks up,stuuters briefly and then picks up again.Damn annoying.

I was stopped at a set of lights the other day and while I was waiting it just stalled.Engine wasnt cold and this was a real curve ball. Anyway will get it looked at tomorrow and see what happens.

cheers

the brick · May 27th, 2004, 02:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by cityclinic

Not far off the mark there gazah . . .

They have had a run on sway bars for both Coopers and MCS's. They topped up their order yesterday to cope. If anybody wants one they should call Chris at AMG asap.

Brad,

When are the rear bars coming in as I am waiting for Chris to call to give me an ETA.

alan earnshaw · May 27th, 2004, 02:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by the brick

Well I have my car booked in at MGS tomorrow for a check-up.

I have noticed only in the last few weeks that there is a flat spot on acceleration in 1st gear. It picks up,stuuters briefly and then picks up again.Damn annoying.

I was stopped at a set of lights the other day and while I was waiting it just stalled.Engine wasnt cold and this was a real curve ball. Anyway will get it looked at tomorrow and see what happens.

cheers

See ya there ! I'm in for a steering wheel job ( and it's not the loose nut behind the wheel

) it's the covering that is peeling off

Get the Latte ready Mrs Alan

ScottyB · May 27th, 2004, 02:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by the brick

Well I have my car booked in at MGS tomorrow for a check-up.

I have noticed only in the last few weeks that there is a flat spot on acceleration in 1st gear. It picks up,stuuters briefly and then picks up again.Damn annoying.

I was stopped at a set of lights the other day and while I was waiting it just stalled.Engine wasnt cold and this was a real curve ball. Anyway will get it looked at tomorrow and see what happens.

cheers

That doesnt sound great Rick

the brick · May 27th, 2004, 02:37 PM

Not brilliant Scotty but I am sure it will get sorted out- got to be positive dont we.

The hesitation really gets on my goat and the thing only got serviced a few weeks ago.Come to think of it it has had the hesitation since then, coincidence or not!

ScottyB · May 27th, 2004, 03:39 PM

Did they play around with the software at all, do you know?

the brick · May 28th, 2004, 10:41 AM

Well I took the car into MGS and got V37 installed.

Only early days but the car feels a bit more responsive and maybe even a tad smoother.Hopefully it solves the hesitation I have encountered but time will tell.

ScottyB · May 28th, 2004, 10:50 AM

Good news Rick

Keep us updated!

May 26th, 2004, 12:35 PM	#63 (permalink)
Darryl MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 06:24 AM Posts: 245 Offline	I hate it, we've had the latest software fitted and its still no better. Unless you bag up the tyres on any sort of hill on take off with ASC off, it just dies and stalls. Times like that I'd be happy to be driving anything but a Mini. 2003 MCS

May 27th, 2004, 08:12 AM	#68 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by alan earnshaw A bit off topic, but speaking of 'Hokey Pokey'.......The guy that wrote that song Larry La Prise died recently aged 93......The most traumatic part for his family was getting him into the coffin, they put his left leg in.....and thats when the trouble started. LMAO - Global Moderator - MY BLOG - Global Procrastinator - ... Buying the 8C for its dynamic abilities is like buying a porn film for its plot ...

May 27th, 2004, 09:47 AM	#71 (permalink)
gazah M2 Procrastinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: sydney, OZ! Local Time: 06:24 AM Posts: 1,856 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by alan earnshaw .....and thats when the trouble started HAHA!! come MOTOR with clubMINI

May 27th, 2004, 02:23 PM	#72 (permalink)
the brick MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 163 Offline	Well I have my car booked in at MGS tomorrow for a check-up. I have noticed only in the last few weeks that there is a flat spot on acceleration in 1st gear. It picks up,stuuters briefly and then picks up again.Damn annoying. I was stopped at a set of lights the other day and while I was waiting it just stalled.Engine wasnt cold and this was a real curve ball. Anyway will get it looked at tomorrow and see what happens. cheers [center]http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/16791/32741.jpg

May 27th, 2004, 02:27 PM	#73 (permalink)
the brick MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 163 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by cityclinic Not far off the mark there gazah . . . They have had a run on sway bars for both Coopers and MCS's. They topped up their order yesterday to cope. If anybody wants one they should call Chris at AMG asap. Brad, When are the rear bars coming in as I am waiting for Chris to call to give me an ETA. [center]http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/16791/32741.jpg

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May 26th, 2004, 11:16 AM	#61
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:24 AM Posts: 4,985 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO Not to be smart or anything , but for months I have no idea of what you people mean by the 'yo yo' or ' Cold start issue ' as I have never felt or experienced this type of engine behavior in my car . Well, you've bee very lucky then. The cold start issue is simply that - you try to start the engine after it has been sitting, and it will start to catch, and then stop. usually only once, but I've had it happen 3 times. The yoyo is where the car will start surging, often in second gear with light throttle, but under some load and revs (3k+). From what I hear it seems likely that you haven't ever had this one because you have never used part throttle I won't explain the hesitation, as I've never had it.

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May 26th, 2004, 11:38 AM	#62 (permalink)
TRELO Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pulled over by Cops Local Time: 06:24 AM Posts: 1,173 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by swamos Well, you've bee very lucky then. The cold start issue is simply that - you try to start the engine after it has been sitting, and it will start to catch, and then stop. usually only once, but I've had it happen 3 times. The yoyo is where the car will start surging, often in second gear with light throttle, but under some load and revs (3k+). From what I hear it seems likely that you haven't ever had this one because you have never used part throttle I won't explain the hesitation, as I've never had it. Thanks for clearing it all up for me . I am now VERY happy I dont have that sort of problem . Maybe the Hartge upgrade has cleared it up as I got my kit installed at 4000km. I have to try part-throttle tomorrow for the first time Thanks again

May 27th, 2004, 04:02 AM	#64 (permalink)
^UB^ MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 780 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Mini2v Very interesting, I wonder if CCMotors have heard of a V37? If not MGS will get a new customer within days. Vic Vic im only guessing its the V37 they uploaded onto my car I asked Anthony what version when picking up the car... he kinda dodged it by saying its the newest they have got, and i didnt push it any further.

May 27th, 2004, 04:07 AM	#65 (permalink)
^UB^ MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 780 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by enzothemaddog Hey Ross, glad you got the upgrade, I noticed it instantly once I got the upgrade done about a month ago, but am now noticing a slight relapse of the problems. Im getting something 'very special' sent from America which apparently eliminates all throttle problems, i'll try and get u one being an old brooky boy!. Give it a couple of weeks, but dont worry, it wont cost u a cent. Check out NAM 'M7 device'. Oi Nick found the M7 thing over at NAM, very interesting. Free mod!? YES PLEASE so yeah get me one too, ill pick it up from u and check out your car Cheers M8

May 27th, 2004, 07:59 AM	#66 (permalink)
alan earnshaw Brass Cannons Join Date: May 2003 Location: At Sea Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 851 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by swamos Hadn't heard of that before. It's a worry, because mine has already been done twice that I know of. I have v37, and my car still has the yo yo. It's never had the stumble though I hear that 38 has been linked to the hokey pokey?? A bit off topic, but speaking of 'Hokey Pokey'.......The guy that wrote that song Larry La Prise died recently aged 93......The most traumatic part for his family was getting him into the coffin, they put his left leg in.....and thats when the trouble started.

May 27th, 2004, 08:12 AM	#67 (permalink)
Mini2v MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern Beaches Syd Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 1,099 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by alan earnshaw A bit off topic, but speaking of 'Hokey Pokey'.......The guy that wrote that song Larry La Prise died recently aged 93......The most traumatic part for his family was getting him into the coffin, they put his left leg in.....and thats when the trouble started. I think its time for your medication alan (Beer o'clock)

May 27th, 2004, 08:29 AM	#69 (permalink)
alan earnshaw Brass Cannons Join Date: May 2003 Location: At Sea Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 851 Offline	........Well I thought it was funny

May 27th, 2004, 09:17 AM	#70 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:24 AM Posts: 4,985 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by alan earnshaw ........Well I thought it was funny Yeppers, I'll pay that

May 27th, 2004, 02:29 PM	#74 (permalink)
alan earnshaw Brass Cannons Join Date: May 2003 Location: At Sea Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 851 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by the brick Well I have my car booked in at MGS tomorrow for a check-up. I have noticed only in the last few weeks that there is a flat spot on acceleration in 1st gear. It picks up,stuuters briefly and then picks up again.Damn annoying. I was stopped at a set of lights the other day and while I was waiting it just stalled.Engine wasnt cold and this was a real curve ball. Anyway will get it looked at tomorrow and see what happens. cheers See ya there ! I'm in for a steering wheel job ( and it's not the loose nut behind the wheel ) it's the covering that is peeling off Get the Latte ready Mrs Alan

May 27th, 2004, 02:34 PM	#75 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by the brick Well I have my car booked in at MGS tomorrow for a check-up. I have noticed only in the last few weeks that there is a flat spot on acceleration in 1st gear. It picks up,stuuters briefly and then picks up again.Damn annoying. I was stopped at a set of lights the other day and while I was waiting it just stalled.Engine wasnt cold and this was a real curve ball. Anyway will get it looked at tomorrow and see what happens. cheers That doesnt sound great Rick - Global Moderator - MY BLOG - Global Procrastinator - ... Buying the 8C for its dynamic abilities is like buying a porn film for its plot ...

May 27th, 2004, 02:37 PM	#76 (permalink)
the brick MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 163 Offline	Not brilliant Scotty but I am sure it will get sorted out- got to be positive dont we. The hesitation really gets on my goat and the thing only got serviced a few weeks ago.Come to think of it it has had the hesitation since then, coincidence or not! [center]http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/16791/32741.jpg

May 27th, 2004, 03:39 PM	#77 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Did they play around with the software at all, do you know? - Global Moderator - MY BLOG - Global Procrastinator - ... Buying the 8C for its dynamic abilities is like buying a porn film for its plot ...

May 28th, 2004, 10:41 AM	#78 (permalink)
the brick MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 163 Offline	Well I took the car into MGS and got V37 installed. Only early days but the car feels a bit more responsive and maybe even a tad smoother.Hopefully it solves the hesitation I have encountered but time will tell. [center]http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/16791/32741.jpg

May 28th, 2004, 10:50 AM	#79 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Good news Rick Keep us updated! - Global Moderator - MY BLOG - Global Procrastinator - ... Buying the 8C for its dynamic abilities is like buying a porn film for its plot ...

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