[MickyD]

hmmm, not the greatest example, but it's the full res version of the picture in my sig. It's a little big grainy/noisy 'cos I'd accidentally left the camera on iso800, and it's with my crappy lens. (excuses, excuses) but you get the drift...
http://mpd.smugmug.com/photos/4119476-O.jpg
(3072x2048 image, so not the best for dialup!)

have a look at my webgallery for lots of other pictures (not just mini) http://mpd.smugmug.com


edit: the more I look at that link, the less I like it as an example
it looks SHIZEN!!!

[gazah]

actually, i downloaded all your MINI pics in 'original' resolution over dial-up the other day micky!

[MickyD]

hahahaha, that's cool :-)
I'm sure there'll be a whole lot more after this sundays GOR cruise!

All (or most) of the pics in the F1 folder were taken with my good lens, the quality difference is just amazing. (but then, so's the price difference...)

[ScottyB]

Quote: Originally Posted by MickyD

have a look at my webgallery for lots of other pictures (not just mini) http://mpd.smugmug.com

I actually spied your gallery a week or two ago. Quite impressed. I assume all taken with the EOS300 D?

I need to pick your brains a bit on that camera. I may have a deal on one coming up.

EXTREMELY impressed by the F1 shots. Do you have any more?

[poki]

Yanno I would need two. One for home and one for the office. I am currently looking at the same calender in both places and I do find it boring. Then again, it doesn't have pictures of MINIs in it either. I love the idea of having something exclusive that no one else can get their hands on. Then again, we could sell them on street corners and have the profits subsidize a massive national meet.

I do like gazah's idea of having an Australia wide collaboration. What would be really cool though is to feature every colour. Velvet Red, Silk Green and Solid Gold might be a little hard to come by though.

[MickyD]

got about 300+ shots at the GP... I really should upload some more to the gallery :-)

oops, getting a bit off topic sorry!

scotty, PM me if you've got any Q's

[brandon]

how about an annual A0 sized mini-photo mosaic calendar. at close range evryday is represented by a photo of a mini in action and when standing back, it ould read as the Mini logo or some other graphic.

one way of trying to get everybody's mean machine in rather than just choose 12.

cheers

[cityclinic]

If this is going to be a MINI2 ers initiative using the MINI2 brand we will need to clear it with Paul Mullet. If it's to be a clubs initiative then which club . . . MINI Clubs or ClubMINI?

Speaking on behalf of MINI Clubs there won't be an issue with branding. As Darryl is a long time sponsor and the clubs official printer we need to be mindful of this relationship when 'tendering' for quotes if it is to be a MINI Clubs initiative.

A national initiative is commendable and politically more appropriate if assembled under the MINI2 brand. It would be excellent to see contributions from all states polled to a final 12 if the final format dictates one pic per month.

Maybe we need some renderings from our design contributors to finalise a format to work towards. As gazah has started the process then he may like to project manage the 2005 Calender with input from the design team. Final sale price will determine quality and quantity so we need to get input from potential buyers to establish a price point.

If you make it a limited edition . . . say 100 units only @ $50 each you will have a budget of $5000.00 or @ $100 each; $10,000,00. An alturistic approach maybe to involve a charity by contributing any profits to a worthwhile cause at a time of the year which often has dramatic consequences for some less fortunate; examples: children in hospital, youth suicide prevention or the Wesley Mission.

Maybe we could have a 'sponsor per page' which will assist in raising funds. Whatever the cause, alturistic or not there is some homework to be done and cooperation to be discussed. Next weekend (Hunter Connnection) might be a good opportunity to get a sub committee established to manage the project properly so that it stays on track and achieves the desired outcome.

[poki]

Note: If you are buying something it is not tax deductible. See Here

Sorry!

[cityclinic]

Quote: Originally Posted by poki

Note: If you are buying something it is not tax deductible. See Here

Sorry!

Not sure how it works, I do know if the buyer receives a direct benefit as a result a 'donation' no part of the amount paid can claimed as a tax deduction. However if a sponsor 'gifts' the charity directly this would be deductable. How we treat the calender in terms of recognition of their contibution is unrelated to the gift. The fee paid for the calender would not be tax deductible.

[gazah]

lotsa sutff there brad, so here's my $0.02 on some of it...

if a MINI2 approach is the easiest way to involve the whole country then i s'pose i'll need to run it past paul closer to the time...

i'm sure darryl will [as always] do what he can to help out the process, & he has already made such an offer in this thread... i would think his solution will likely be the most professional & economical!

as for introducing sponsors & charities into the equation, i certainly commend the effort but personally don't have the time to organise complex business dealings, & would have reservations about paying $50 or $100 for the finished product!
maybe a simple $5 on-top of the cost-price of the calendar to informally go towards a worthy charity... that'd be my suggestion if people want to go down this line!

so, in summary... i'm happy to co-ordinate things later in the year [including receiving submissions, posting preview images, running a poll etc] but if fellow MINI2ers decide they'd like things formalised [as per brad's post] then by all means take the reigns!

& lastly... i've attached a very simple mock-up of what the calendar may look like... obviously any club / sponsor / charity logos you like could be inserted down the bottom!

[cityclinic]

Quote: Originally Posted by gazah

lotsa sutff there brad, so here's my $0.02 on some of it...

i dunno where or when the unspoken rift between the state's MINI clubs developed, but it certainly confounds the process & annoys me to boot
if a MINI2 approach is the easiest way to involve the whole country then i s'pose i'll need to run it past paul closer to the time... if all else fails i'll make it a 'no name' calendar!

i'm sure darryl will [as always] do what he can to help out the process, & he has already made such an offer in this thread... i would think his solution will likely be the most professional & economical!

as for introducing sponsors & charities into the equation, i certainly commend the effort but personally don't have the time to organise complex business dealings, & would have reservations about paying $50 or $100 for the finished product!
maybe a simple $5 on-top of the cost-price of the calendar to informally go towards a worthy charity... that'd be my suggestion if people want to go down this line!

so, in summary... i'm happy to co-ordinate things later in the year [including receiving submissions, posting preview images, running a poll etc] but if fellow MINI2ers decide they'd like things formalised [as per brad's post] then by all means take the reigns!

& lastly... i've attached a very simple mock-up of what the calendar may look like... obviously any club / sponsor / charity logos you like could be inserted down the bottom!

Don't mean to make the job any harder than you may have anticipated and it shouldn't be if the T's are crossed and the i's dotted.

MINI2 is a brand owned by Paul Mullet and his associates. Out of courtesy we would need to discuss this with him. This should be done sooner rather than later as you may find there maybe a legitimate objection on his/their part. Your direction then would be completely different if MINI2 is not an option.

[gazah]

it'd be nice to have national input, & i would've thought an informal collaboration between the clubs' members would be a relatively simple project... this may in fact be one way of getting the clubs together on something!

let's see how we go! are there any queenslanders out there?

[gazah]

Quote: Originally Posted by cityclinic

Just trying to save you a lot of potential frustration . . . as to the other areas . . . its your ball game, play it as you see fit.

i understand your approach brad, & i can certainly see the benefits of planning well-ahead & being well-prepared... i also value your input into what will surely turn into a MINI-mission rather than a simple walk in the park!

i'm sure we can collaborate on things, it's just that being 'way out west' & studying for the next 2-3months means organising such an endeavour would be nie on impossible!

i'm happy to give it some more serious consideration sept/october & see where the members want to take it from there!

[Todd!]

Darryl has kindly agreed to printing the project as club printer, the design can be discussed at a later date.

My advise is that people begin collecting "ARTISTIC" photos and have a competition similar to the logo design where everyone has the opportunity to enter, and the voters decide.

This seems very simple.

Does it even have to be branded? That was only a suggestion I made to sell the products through the network of people either a) in Mini Clubs or b) in Mini2.com - obviously there would have to be royalties paid. The idea with the Mini Clubs involvement is that the calender could be used to subsidise events etc. or improving club equipment such as a set of communal radios etc, for future track and drive days. It can also be used as a concept to bring the clubs together.

Todd

[cityclinic]

Quote: Originally Posted by gazah

i understand your approach brad, & i can certainly see the benefits of planning well-ahead & being well-prepared... i also value your input into what will surely turn into a MINI-mission rather than a simple walk in the park!

i'm sure we can collaborate on things, it's just that being 'way out west' & studying for the next 2-3months means organising such an endeavour would be nie on impossible!

i'm happy to give it some more serious consideration sept/october & see where the members want to take it from there!

Thats what the club is all about . . collaberation .. . we all do a bit to lighten the load and no one is expecting this to be a major project however there does need to be some direction and consideration for certain aspects of the project . . namely use of a brand like MINI2.

Photographic contributions should be open to all who wish to participate and I am sure there won't be a shortage of sensational pics of suitable quality. I would recommend a cut off date of mid September for pics. By then we should also have the design locked away. All material then goes off to the printer and by early to mid October we have a calender printed and ready for distribution. A Printers busiest time of year is mid October through November and December. We want to be soughted and out of their way if we can manage it well before then.

[Todd!]

If it will be difficult to use the Mini2 name, maybe we drop it? Do it through the club.

How are membership numbers looking at this point in time?

Todd

[cityclinic]

Quote: Originally Posted by Red&blackS

If it will be difficult to use the Mini2 name, maybe we drop it? Do it through the club.

How are membership numbers looking at this point in time?

Todd

We won't know until we ask . . Club has around 96 paid members (remind myself to update the registers) however Gazah's idea to make it a national effort is a good one which we should support.

If this becomes a problem, for whatever reason, we can easily pull it together with a little effort from a few of us helping gazah. Its a great idea . . I didn't mean to dampen the spirit of the concept . . just wanted to point out some of the issues we need to be aware of.

[Todd!]

*96* thats excellent!!

It would be great if we could sell at least one per member ()

Todd

[alan earnshaw]

Quote: Originally Posted by Red&blackS

*96* thats excellent!!

It would be great if we could sell at least one per member ()

Todd

I figure I could shift a few throught work i.e. give aways to my Associates (Globaly) and Clients that have followed the KMS TasMINIa tour with great interest and there bye developed a soft spot and passion for MINIs. I am willing to make a firmer commitment closer to the date once we have costs and print numbers in.