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StuJones · Jun 23rd, 2004, 04:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by alistaircooke

Is there a Mini2 Australia laptimes chart for the various tracks around Sydney. ?

Al.

Thats not a bad idea. Would be a good guide for various tracks as well as allowing people to keep track of their best times

Greendevil · Jun 23rd, 2004, 05:07 AM

A small database of tracks / times / driver / modifications inc. tyres could be good. Times recorded with the BMW Club are very accurate due to the use of transponders. However, times recorded by a 2nd (MINI2) person with a modern stopwatch should be valid as a qualification too.

GO COOP"S · Jun 23rd, 2004, 08:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by alistaircooke

Boys n Girls,

I'm popping along to Wakefield park (www.wakefieldpark.com.au) this coming friday and considering taking MINNY around for her maiden-blip.

I've tried searching the Forum to no avail, but was wondering if anyone had an idea on a "decent" laptime for a standard MCS at Wakefield?

Is there a Mini2 Australia laptimes chart for the various tracks around Sydney. ?

Al.

Hi Al,

Are you coming on the 27th as well? If so please post your name on the "All British" thread.

Coop's

alistaircooke · Jun 23rd, 2004, 08:15 AM

no sorry I won't be there on sunday

^UB^ · Jun 23rd, 2004, 09:01 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by alistaircooke

no sorry I won't be there on sunday

Welcome back Al

thought we might have lost ya

Hey I might come down to check u & minny out on Friday, might do me good to take a look at the track before Sunday

Cheers

Ross

robbo mcs · Jun 23rd, 2004, 09:52 AM

Hi,

For the record, here are my best times, with all my mods

Wakefield : 1:13.54
Eastern Creek : 1.56.25 ... today

Oran Park GP : 1:27.69 (this one is a bit soft, it has been wet both days I've been there)

My best time before mods, completely stock except R tyres were

Wakefield : 1.16.7
Eastern Creek : 2.01

I have never done trackdays with runflats, however, based upon experience of others, a good time would be

Wakefield 1.19's
Eastern Creek 2.04 (S4matt did this at the Dutton Rally

)

However, I would encourage people to ignore other peoples lap times. The main thing is to have fun, learn, and hopefully improve on your own times . Get lots of driver training and try to improve your own skills.

Cheers

Robbo

StuJones · Jun 23rd, 2004, 10:08 AM

I agree its pretty pointless comparing yourself with other peoples lap times as there are lots of variables (car, driver, weather, etc).

But at the same time its nice to have goals and an idea of what can be achieved

. It also serves a quite nice reference to look back over.

Boo · Jun 25th, 2004, 02:13 AM

Hi there,
i think a database would be a good idea.

Wakefield Park 1:16:5 (although this will be blown away at the next outing)
Eastern Creek 1:56:75
Oran Park (can't remember but was not really flash)

Mods
JCW Kit
K & N CAI, Harness, Extinguisher and Bonnet Restraint from Peak Performance.
Whiteline suspension: Front/Rear Swaybars, Rear camber plates, Springs and Koni shocks, Front/Rear Strut bars.

Driver Training and Experience:
1 yr track experience with approx 8 track days.
Mini Driver Training
Peter Finlay's Racing Drivers Course (doing next week)
Burrows Drive Days
BMW Club Track Days

Tracks
Eastern Creek (Favourite so far

)
Wakefield Park
Oran Park

Greendevil · Jun 25th, 2004, 02:59 AM

Wakefield Park 1:21:07 (12th April) 1:19:84 (10th May)
Eastern Creek 2:05 (informal)
Oran Park n/a

Mods

AMD Kit
Scorpion exhaust, Extinguisher, Swaybar
Stock suspension (except swaybar fitted )
Stock brakes
Stock 17' wheels / runflat tyres (changing to 16 x 7 alloys and Toyo R1R 205/50/16 rubber fitting 25th June note: non-R spec tyre)

Driver Training and Experience:

6 mths track experience with 5 track days
BMW Club Track Days
AAMs Drive Day at Oran Park 19th June
Informal MINI2 day at Eastern Creek

Tracks

Eastern Creek (definitely need a full tank of gas for the day)
Wakefield (very safe but requires a drive to Goulburn)
Oran Park (watch those walls)

cityclinic · Jun 26th, 2004, 07:31 AM

MINI:
JCW/MCS
Aftermarket:
Alta Intercooler
Alta Cold Air Intake
Alta Big Brakes
Alta 22mm Rear Sway
Alta Rear Upper and Lower Control Arms
Alta Lowering Springs
Wheels: ///AMG R 90 x 17
Tyres: Pirelli Corsa's 215/45
Driver Training and/or Experience
All British Day - Wakefield Park
AAMs Drive Day at Oran Park
MINI Driver Training - Intro Eastern Creek
Moto Concepts - Eastern Creek x 2
BMW Driver Training - Advanced 2 Eastern Creek
Karts - Clubman 100
Skip Barber - Formula Renault Mid Ohio
Skip Barber - Formula Ford Willow Springs
Indianapolous Infield - Formula Ford
BMW Drivers Club - Oran Park, Amaroo and Winton
Times:
Wakefield Park: 1.14.92 (June 27, '04)
Eastern Creek: 1.58.03 (prior suspension mods)
Oran Park: Not timed in the MINI
Winton: Not timed in the MINI

alistaircooke · Jun 28th, 2004, 12:57 AM

well I'm pleased to say that I did "very well" on friday.

My unofficial best time was 1.19.4 (a friend was timing me from the pitwall). Which I'm well chuffed about - I was consistently in the 1.20s after my 2nd run.

Oh yeah - and I was running a Stock MCS with the runflats!!

Although I can see how easy it is to get into the "racing" bug...I'll definitely need a set of 16s for racing in with some "cheaper" tyres if this going to become a more regular thing. Anyone fancy sharing a set????

alistaircooke · Jun 28th, 2004, 01:00 AM

and it was great to see Ross (^UB^) come down on friday to provide some morale support. If nothing else it told him "how cold" it is in Wakefield - so I hope he wrapped up well on sunday!.

robbo mcs · Jun 28th, 2004, 11:01 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by alistaircooke

well I'm pleased to say that I did "very well" on friday.

My unofficial best time was 1.19.4 (a friend was timing me from the pitwall). Which I'm well chuffed about - I was consistently in the 1.20s after my 2nd run.

Oh yeah - and I was running a Stock MCS with the runflats!!

Although I can see how easy it is to get into the "racing" bug...I'll definitely need a set of 16s for racing in with some "cheaper" tyres if this going to become a more regular thing. Anyone fancy sharing a set????

Hi,

Congratulations, that is a seriously fast time for a stock standard car on stock tyres

You obviously have some innate talent

I am very impressed

That time would be very close to winning "B" class at BMW club events, which is the class that the stock cooper S goes in.

Glad you enjoyed yourself. However, as you have found out, it is kind of addictive

By the way, if you are interested, there is a BMW drive day at Wakefield on Saturday 17th July. If you are interested, PM me

Cheers

Robbo

robbo mcs · Jun 28th, 2004, 11:23 AM

Hi,

Seeing as everyone else is posting information for the database, here is my info

Track experience

* First time on the track March 02
* BMW driver training days : "M owners", "perfection" and "fascination". Excellent driver training. Gave me the courage to take my own car on the track

* Burrows Drive Days : I think I have done around 15

* BMW club days : around 10
* Motoconcepts : 2 days

Circuits done

* Wakefield : good fun. Technically challending, quite safe. Lots of off-camber corners
* Oran Park GP : I have only done this twice. Technically hard and challenging, Big walls and ripple strips

* Oran park South Circuit : A good introduction to the track. Lots of left hand turns, with camber and elevation changes. I have only done it once
* Eastern Creek : love it

Fast, flowing, every type of corner, eg fast sweepers, hairpins, on and off camber etc.
* Winton : strange track. Lots of tight corners. Lots of short straights. Suits minis

* Phillip island : I did this in M3, not the mini. By far the best track I have been on. Technically it is amazing, very high speed, lots of sweepers, and high speed corners. Technically challenging, elevation and camber changes, blind apexes etc. Great scenery as well. Do it once in your life

Robbo

Greendevil · Jun 28th, 2004, 11:32 AM

Al,

Be good if you came along to Wakefield on the 17th. At the moment I seem to be the only MCS competing regularly in the B class and I am doing 1:19 so a good match up.

Carl aka Greendevil

Greendevil · Jun 28th, 2004, 11:42 AM

Fantastic depth of experience there Robbo. Do you think you might do a practice session at Wakefield before the 17th?

StuJones · Jun 29th, 2004, 01:03 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil

Al,

Be good if you came along to Wakefield on the 17th. At the moment I seem to be the only MCS competing regularly in the B class and I am doing 1:19 so a good match up.

Carl aka Greendevil

Hi Carl,

Im planning to be there for the 17th. First time at wakefield so should be a bit of fun

. Is MCS in class B or C for BMW club?

Anyway see you on 17th

Stu

Todd! · Jun 29th, 2004, 01:55 AM

Judging by what robbo said to Al... the MCS standard is in B class... modified I would say would definately be in a harder class...

Todd

alistaircooke · Jun 29th, 2004, 04:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs

That time would be very close to winning "B" class at BMW club events, which is the class that the stock cooper S goes in.

By the way, if you are interested, there is a BMW drive day at Wakefield on Saturday 17th July. If you are interested, PM me

Robbo - now you know telling me that I could "go close" in class B is only going to mean I have to come along - seriously though I probably do need to sort some race tyres out before I come out again....I seriously scrubbed about $100 off of each RunFlat last friday. I don't fancy coughing up 2k for a set of four runflats in the next few months.

R U coming on Sunday to Bowral? be good to have a natter....

Boo · Jun 29th, 2004, 08:55 AM

Do what i did, swap out the runflats for some Yokohama ES100's about 1K per set and better tyres to boot

Jun 23rd, 2004, 05:07 AM	#42 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:26 AM Posts: 298 Offline	A small database of tracks / times / driver / modifications inc. tyres could be good. Times recorded with the BMW Club are very accurate due to the use of transponders. However, times recorded by a 2nd (MINI2) person with a modern stopwatch should be valid as a qualification too. BMW E36 M3R Alpine White - Engine : 6 cylinder; DOHC 24 valve Capacity : 2990cc Power : 243KW @ 7000 rpm Torque : 323NM @ 3900rpm Produced : Jan - May 1995 How many :15 ONLY

Jun 23rd, 2004, 08:06 AM	#43 (permalink)
GO COOP"S Lost in space Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: On the move Local Time: 06:26 AM Posts: 629 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by alistaircooke Boys n Girls, I'm popping along to Wakefield park (www.wakefieldpark.com.au) this coming friday and considering taking MINNY around for her maiden-blip. I've tried searching the Forum to no avail, but was wondering if anyone had an idea on a "decent" laptime for a standard MCS at Wakefield? Is there a Mini2 Australia laptimes chart for the various tracks around Sydney. ? Al. Hi Al, Are you coming on the 27th as well? If so please post your name on the "All British" thread. Coop's http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/17926/38683.jpg MC-007 with ejector seat.

Jun 23rd, 2004, 09:52 AM	#46 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:26 AM Posts: 2,620 Offline	Hi, For the record, here are my best times, with all my mods Wakefield : 1:13.54 Eastern Creek : 1.56.25 ... today Oran Park GP : 1:27.69 (this one is a bit soft, it has been wet both days I've been there) My best time before mods, completely stock except R tyres were Wakefield : 1.16.7 Eastern Creek : 2.01 I have never done trackdays with runflats, however, based upon experience of others, a good time would be Wakefield 1.19's Eastern Creek 2.04 (S4matt did this at the Dutton Rally ) However, I would encourage people to ignore other peoples lap times. The main thing is to have fun, learn, and hopefully improve on your own times . Get lots of driver training and try to improve your own skills. Cheers Robbo Mods: GO MADDIE and SPARKY!

Jun 25th, 2004, 02:13 AM	#48 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 06:26 AM Posts: 1,735 Offline	Hi there, i think a database would be a good idea. Wakefield Park 1:16:5 (although this will be blown away at the next outing) Eastern Creek 1:56:75 Oran Park (can't remember but was not really flash) Mods JCW Kit K & N CAI, Harness, Extinguisher and Bonnet Restraint from Peak Performance. Whiteline suspension: Front/Rear Swaybars, Rear camber plates, Springs and Koni shocks, Front/Rear Strut bars. Driver Training and Experience: 1 yr track experience with approx 8 track days. Mini Driver Training Peter Finlay's Racing Drivers Course (doing next week) Burrows Drive Days BMW Club Track Days Tracks Eastern Creek (Favourite so far ) Wakefield Park Oran Park The original SWORKS

Jun 25th, 2004, 02:59 AM	#49 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:26 AM Posts: 298 Offline	Greendevil details for the DB Wakefield Park 1:21:07 (12th April) 1:19:84 (10th May) Eastern Creek 2:05 (informal) Oran Park n/a Mods AMD Kit Scorpion exhaust, Extinguisher, Swaybar Stock suspension (except swaybar fitted ) Stock brakes Stock 17' wheels / runflat tyres (changing to 16 x 7 alloys and Toyo R1R 205/50/16 rubber fitting 25th June note: non-R spec tyre) Driver Training and Experience: 6 mths track experience with 5 track days BMW Club Track Days AAMs Drive Day at Oran Park 19th June Informal MINI2 day at Eastern Creek Tracks Eastern Creek (definitely need a full tank of gas for the day) Wakefield (very safe but requires a drive to Goulburn) Oran Park (watch those walls) BMW E36 M3R Alpine White - Engine : 6 cylinder; DOHC 24 valve Capacity : 2990cc Power : 243KW @ 7000 rpm Torque : 323NM @ 3900rpm Produced : Jan - May 1995 How many :15 ONLY

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Jun 23rd, 2004, 04:48 AM	#41
StuJones my second passion, a tin! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cronulla, NSW Local Time: 06:26 AM Posts: 733 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by alistaircooke Is there a Mini2 Australia laptimes chart for the various tracks around Sydney. ? Al. Thats not a bad idea. Would be a good guide for various tracks as well as allowing people to keep track of their best times

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Jun 23rd, 2004, 08:15 AM	#44 (permalink)
alistaircooke C'mon you Spurs! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Shore Local Time: 07:26 AM Posts: 121 Offline	no sorry I won't be there on sunday

Jun 23rd, 2004, 09:01 AM	#45 (permalink)
^UB^ MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 07:26 AM Posts: 780 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by alistaircooke no sorry I won't be there on sunday Welcome back Al thought we might have lost ya Hey I might come down to check u & minny out on Friday, might do me good to take a look at the track before Sunday Cheers Ross

Jun 23rd, 2004, 10:08 AM	#47 (permalink)
StuJones my second passion, a tin! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cronulla, NSW Local Time: 06:26 AM Posts: 733 Offline	I agree its pretty pointless comparing yourself with other peoples lap times as there are lots of variables (car, driver, weather, etc). But at the same time its nice to have goals and an idea of what can be achieved . It also serves a quite nice reference to look back over.

Jun 26th, 2004, 07:31 AM	#50 (permalink)
cityclinic MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Local Time: 06:26 AM Posts: 1,524 Offline	cityclinic tracking experience MINI: JCW/MCS Aftermarket: Alta Intercooler Alta Cold Air Intake Alta Big Brakes Alta 22mm Rear Sway Alta Rear Upper and Lower Control Arms Alta Lowering Springs Wheels: ///AMG R 90 x 17 Tyres: Pirelli Corsa's 215/45 Driver Training and/or Experience All British Day - Wakefield Park AAMs Drive Day at Oran Park MINI Driver Training - Intro Eastern Creek Moto Concepts - Eastern Creek x 2 BMW Driver Training - Advanced 2 Eastern Creek Karts - Clubman 100 Skip Barber - Formula Renault Mid Ohio Skip Barber - Formula Ford Willow Springs Indianapolous Infield - Formula Ford BMW Drivers Club - Oran Park, Amaroo and Winton Times: Wakefield Park: 1.14.92 (June 27, '04) Eastern Creek: 1.58.03 (prior suspension mods) Oran Park: Not timed in the MINI Winton: Not timed in the MINI Last edited by cityclinic : Jun 27th, 2004 at 01:46 PM.

Jun 28th, 2004, 12:57 AM	#51 (permalink)
alistaircooke C'mon you Spurs! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Shore Local Time: 07:26 AM Posts: 121 Offline	well I'm pleased to say that I did "very well" on friday. My unofficial best time was 1.19.4 (a friend was timing me from the pitwall). Which I'm well chuffed about - I was consistently in the 1.20s after my 2nd run. Oh yeah - and I was running a Stock MCS with the runflats!! Although I can see how easy it is to get into the "racing" bug...I'll definitely need a set of 16s for racing in with some "cheaper" tyres if this going to become a more regular thing. Anyone fancy sharing a set????

Jun 28th, 2004, 01:00 AM	#52 (permalink)
alistaircooke C'mon you Spurs! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Shore Local Time: 07:26 AM Posts: 121 Offline	and it was great to see Ross (^UB^) come down on friday to provide some morale support. If nothing else it told him "how cold" it is in Wakefield - so I hope he wrapped up well on sunday!.

Jun 28th, 2004, 11:01 AM	#53 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:26 AM Posts: 2,620 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by alistaircooke well I'm pleased to say that I did "very well" on friday. My unofficial best time was 1.19.4 (a friend was timing me from the pitwall). Which I'm well chuffed about - I was consistently in the 1.20s after my 2nd run. Oh yeah - and I was running a Stock MCS with the runflats!! Although I can see how easy it is to get into the "racing" bug...I'll definitely need a set of 16s for racing in with some "cheaper" tyres if this going to become a more regular thing. Anyone fancy sharing a set???? Hi, Congratulations, that is a seriously fast time for a stock standard car on stock tyres You obviously have some innate talent I am very impressed That time would be very close to winning "B" class at BMW club events, which is the class that the stock cooper S goes in. Glad you enjoyed yourself. However, as you have found out, it is kind of addictive By the way, if you are interested, there is a BMW drive day at Wakefield on Saturday 17th July. If you are interested, PM me Cheers Robbo Mods: GO MADDIE and SPARKY!

Jun 28th, 2004, 11:23 AM	#54 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:26 AM Posts: 2,620 Offline	Hi, Seeing as everyone else is posting information for the database, here is my info Track experience * First time on the track March 02 * BMW driver training days : "M owners", "perfection" and "fascination". Excellent driver training. Gave me the courage to take my own car on the track * Burrows Drive Days : I think I have done around 15 * BMW club days : around 10 * Motoconcepts : 2 days Circuits done * Wakefield : good fun. Technically challending, quite safe. Lots of off-camber corners * Oran Park GP : I have only done this twice. Technically hard and challenging, Big walls and ripple strips * Oran park South Circuit : A good introduction to the track. Lots of left hand turns, with camber and elevation changes. I have only done it once * Eastern Creek : love it Fast, flowing, every type of corner, eg fast sweepers, hairpins, on and off camber etc. * Winton : strange track. Lots of tight corners. Lots of short straights. Suits minis * Phillip island : I did this in M3, not the mini. By far the best track I have been on. Technically it is amazing, very high speed, lots of sweepers, and high speed corners. Technically challenging, elevation and camber changes, blind apexes etc. Great scenery as well. Do it once in your life Robbo Mods: GO MADDIE and SPARKY!

Jun 28th, 2004, 11:32 AM	#55 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:26 AM Posts: 298 Offline	Al, Be good if you came along to Wakefield on the 17th. At the moment I seem to be the only MCS competing regularly in the B class and I am doing 1:19 so a good match up. Carl aka Greendevil BMW E36 M3R Alpine White - Engine : 6 cylinder; DOHC 24 valve Capacity : 2990cc Power : 243KW @ 7000 rpm Torque : 323NM @ 3900rpm Produced : Jan - May 1995 How many :15 ONLY

Jun 28th, 2004, 11:42 AM	#56 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:26 AM Posts: 298 Offline	Fantastic depth of experience there Robbo. Do you think you might do a practice session at Wakefield before the 17th? BMW E36 M3R Alpine White - Engine : 6 cylinder; DOHC 24 valve Capacity : 2990cc Power : 243KW @ 7000 rpm Torque : 323NM @ 3900rpm Produced : Jan - May 1995 How many :15 ONLY

Jun 29th, 2004, 01:03 AM	#57 (permalink)
StuJones my second passion, a tin! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cronulla, NSW Local Time: 06:26 AM Posts: 733 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil Al, Be good if you came along to Wakefield on the 17th. At the moment I seem to be the only MCS competing regularly in the B class and I am doing 1:19 so a good match up. Carl aka Greendevil Hi Carl, Im planning to be there for the 17th. First time at wakefield so should be a bit of fun . Is MCS in class B or C for BMW club? Anyway see you on 17th Stu

Jun 29th, 2004, 01:55 AM	#58 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:26 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	Judging by what robbo said to Al... the MCS standard is in B class... modified I would say would definately be in a harder class... Todd PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

Jun 29th, 2004, 04:44 AM	#59 (permalink)
alistaircooke C'mon you Spurs! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Shore Local Time: 07:26 AM Posts: 121 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs That time would be very close to winning "B" class at BMW club events, which is the class that the stock cooper S goes in. By the way, if you are interested, there is a BMW drive day at Wakefield on Saturday 17th July. If you are interested, PM me Robbo - now you know telling me that I could "go close" in class B is only going to mean I have to come along - seriously though I probably do need to sort some race tyres out before I come out again....I seriously scrubbed about $100 off of each RunFlat last friday. I don't fancy coughing up 2k for a set of four runflats in the next few months. R U coming on Sunday to Bowral? be good to have a natter....

Jun 29th, 2004, 08:55 AM	#60 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 06:26 AM Posts: 1,735 Offline	Do what i did, swap out the runflats for some Yokohama ES100's about 1K per set and better tyres to boot The original SWORKS

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