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Old Jun 23rd, 2004, 09:52 AM
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Hi,

For the record, here are my best times, with all my mods

Wakefield : 1:13.54
Eastern Creek : 1.56.25 ... today
Oran Park GP : 1:27.69 (this one is a bit soft, it has been wet both days I've been there)

My best time before mods, completely stock except R tyres were

Wakefield : 1.16.7
Eastern Creek : 2.01

I have never done trackdays with runflats, however, based upon experience of others, a good time would be

Wakefield 1.19's
Eastern Creek 2.04 (S4matt did this at the Dutton Rally )

However, I would encourage people to ignore other peoples lap times. The main thing is to have fun, learn, and hopefully improve on your own times . Get lots of driver training and try to improve your own skills.

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Old Jun 23rd, 2004, 10:08 AM
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I agree its pretty pointless comparing yourself with other peoples lap times as there are lots of variables (car, driver, weather, etc).

But at the same time its nice to have goals and an idea of what can be achieved . It also serves a quite nice reference to look back over.
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Old Jun 25th, 2004, 02:13 AM
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Hi there,
i think a database would be a good idea.

Wakefield Park 1:16:5 (although this will be blown away at the next outing)
Eastern Creek 1:56:75
Oran Park (can't remember but was not really flash)

Mods
JCW Kit
K & N CAI, Harness, Extinguisher and Bonnet Restraint from Peak Performance.
Whiteline suspension: Front/Rear Swaybars, Rear camber plates, Springs and Koni shocks, Front/Rear Strut bars.

Driver Training and Experience:
1 yr track experience with approx 8 track days.
Mini Driver Training
Peter Finlay's Racing Drivers Course (doing next week)
Burrows Drive Days
BMW Club Track Days

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Eastern Creek (Favourite so far )
Wakefield Park
Oran Park

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Old Jun 25th, 2004, 02:59 AM
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Greendevil details for the DB

Wakefield Park 1:21:07 (12th April) 1:19:84 (10th May)
Eastern Creek 2:05 (informal)
Oran Park n/a

Mods

AMD Kit
Scorpion exhaust, Extinguisher, Swaybar
Stock suspension (except swaybar fitted )
Stock brakes
Stock 17' wheels / runflat tyres (changing to 16 x 7 alloys and Toyo R1R 205/50/16 rubber fitting 25th June note: non-R spec tyre)

Driver Training and Experience:

6 mths track experience with 5 track days
BMW Club Track Days
AAMs Drive Day at Oran Park 19th June
Informal MINI2 day at Eastern Creek

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Eastern Creek (definitely need a full tank of gas for the day)
Wakefield (very safe but requires a drive to Goulburn)
Oran Park (watch those walls)

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Old Jun 26th, 2004, 07:31 AM
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MINI:
JCW/MCS
Aftermarket:
Alta Intercooler
Alta Cold Air Intake
Alta Big Brakes
Alta 22mm Rear Sway
Alta Rear Upper and Lower Control Arms
Alta Lowering Springs
Wheels: ///AMG R 90 x 17
Tyres: Pirelli Corsa's 215/45
Driver Training and/or Experience
All British Day - Wakefield Park
AAMs Drive Day at Oran Park
MINI Driver Training - Intro Eastern Creek
Moto Concepts - Eastern Creek x 2
BMW Driver Training - Advanced 2 Eastern Creek
Karts - Clubman 100
Skip Barber - Formula Renault Mid Ohio
Skip Barber - Formula Ford Willow Springs
Indianapolous Infield - Formula Ford
BMW Drivers Club - Oran Park, Amaroo and Winton
Times:
Wakefield Park: 1.14.92 (June 27, '04)
Eastern Creek: 1.58.03 (prior suspension mods)
Oran Park: Not timed in the MINI
Winton: Not timed in the MINI

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well I'm pleased to say that I did "very well" on friday.

My unofficial best time was 1.19.4 (a friend was timing me from the pitwall). Which I'm well chuffed about - I was consistently in the 1.20s after my 2nd run.

Oh yeah - and I was running a Stock MCS with the runflats!!

Although I can see how easy it is to get into the "racing" bug...I'll definitely need a set of 16s for racing in with some "cheaper" tyres if this going to become a more regular thing. Anyone fancy sharing a set????
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Old Jun 28th, 2004, 01:00 AM
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and it was great to see Ross (^UB^) come down on friday to provide some morale support. If nothing else it told him "how cold" it is in Wakefield - so I hope he wrapped up well on sunday!.
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Old Jun 28th, 2004, 11:01 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by alistaircooke
well I'm pleased to say that I did "very well" on friday.

My unofficial best time was 1.19.4 (a friend was timing me from the pitwall). Which I'm well chuffed about - I was consistently in the 1.20s after my 2nd run.

Oh yeah - and I was running a Stock MCS with the runflats!!

Although I can see how easy it is to get into the "racing" bug...I'll definitely need a set of 16s for racing in with some "cheaper" tyres if this going to become a more regular thing. Anyone fancy sharing a set????

Hi,

Congratulations, that is a seriously fast time for a stock standard car on stock tyres You obviously have some innate talent I am very impressed

That time would be very close to winning "B" class at BMW club events, which is the class that the stock cooper S goes in.

Glad you enjoyed yourself. However, as you have found out, it is kind of addictive

By the way, if you are interested, there is a BMW drive day at Wakefield on Saturday 17th July. If you are interested, PM me

Cheers

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Old Jun 28th, 2004, 11:23 AM
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Hi,

Seeing as everyone else is posting information for the database, here is my info

Track experience

* First time on the track March 02
* BMW driver training days : "M owners", "perfection" and "fascination". Excellent driver training. Gave me the courage to take my own car on the track
* Burrows Drive Days : I think I have done around 15
* BMW club days : around 10
* Motoconcepts : 2 days

Circuits done

* Wakefield : good fun. Technically challending, quite safe. Lots of off-camber corners
* Oran Park GP : I have only done this twice. Technically hard and challenging, Big walls and ripple strips
* Oran park South Circuit : A good introduction to the track. Lots of left hand turns, with camber and elevation changes. I have only done it once
* Eastern Creek : love it Fast, flowing, every type of corner, eg fast sweepers, hairpins, on and off camber etc.
* Winton : strange track. Lots of tight corners. Lots of short straights. Suits minis
* Phillip island : I did this in M3, not the mini. By far the best track I have been on. Technically it is amazing, very high speed, lots of sweepers, and high speed corners. Technically challenging, elevation and camber changes, blind apexes etc. Great scenery as well. Do it once in your life

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Al,

Be good if you came along to Wakefield on the 17th. At the moment I seem to be the only MCS competing regularly in the B class and I am doing 1:19 so a good match up.

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Fantastic depth of experience there Robbo. Do you think you might do a practice session at Wakefield before the 17th?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil
Al,

Be good if you came along to Wakefield on the 17th. At the moment I seem to be the only MCS competing regularly in the B class and I am doing 1:19 so a good match up.

Carl aka Greendevil

Hi Carl,

Im planning to be there for the 17th. First time at wakefield so should be a bit of fun . Is MCS in class B or C for BMW club?

Anyway see you on 17th

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Judging by what robbo said to Al... the MCS standard is in B class... modified I would say would definately be in a harder class...

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Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs
That time would be very close to winning "B" class at BMW club events, which is the class that the stock cooper S goes in.

By the way, if you are interested, there is a BMW drive day at Wakefield on Saturday 17th July. If you are interested, PM me

Robbo - now you know telling me that I could "go close" in class B is only going to mean I have to come along - seriously though I probably do need to sort some race tyres out before I come out again....I seriously scrubbed about $100 off of each RunFlat last friday. I don't fancy coughing up 2k for a set of four runflats in the next few months.

R U coming on Sunday to Bowral? be good to have a natter....
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Do what i did, swap out the runflats for some Yokohama ES100's about 1K per set and better tyres to boot

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