[StuJones]

anyone going to Motoconcepts day at Eastern Creek on thursday?

[Greendevil]

I'll be takin' a breather till after the 9th August. The ol' Greendevil is gonna be "Whitelined" on the 9th.. can't wait for that! I will be on the track more frequently post Aug 9.

[robbo mcs]

Quote: Originally Posted by StuJones

anyone going to Motoconcepts day at Eastern Creek on thursday?

Hi,

I wasn't going, as I figured I was feeding my addiction too much

However, I do have the day off work, so I could have my arm twisted if anyone else was going

Cheers

Robbo

[StuJones]

I was keen to go but I cannot be made responsible for encouraging Robbo's addictions!!

Anyway some fool just scheduled an important meeting for me on Thursday morning so I am out now

[robbo mcs]

Quote: Originally Posted by StuJones

I was keen to go but I cannot be made responsible for encouraging Robbo's addictions!!

Anyway some fool just scheduled an important meeting for me on Thursday morning so I am out now

Hi Stu,

I take full responsibility for my track addictions

If the weather is fine, I think I may go for half the day.

Robbo

[robbo mcs]

Hi,

For people participating in BMW club events, there have been some changes.

After the last round at Wakefield park, they have re-classified me from group C to group D

Here is a copy of the correspondence from David Atkin :

I meant to talk to you about that on the weekend but got sidetracked. We have reviewed the classification of new MINIs to:
Cooper Class A
Cooper S stock on road tyres Class B
Cooper S stock on R tyres Class C
Cooper S with works kit or equivalent modifications to increase power from standard Class C
Above with R tyres Class D
Your car fits into the last category hence I have recalculated the points for Classes C & D[/

I guess that is reasonably fair in principle, but its a bit hard mid season

However, they seem to have only reclassified me, and left Boo, Trelo, GreenDevil and Stu Jones in the previous class

Cheers

Robbo

[Boo]

What cars are we against in group D....
Kinda harsh since we aren't even winning group C

[Greendevil]

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs

I meant to talk to you about that on the weekend but got sidetracked. We have reviewed the classification of new MINIs to:
Cooper Class A
Cooper S stock on road tyres Class B
Cooper S stock on R tyres Class C
Cooper S with works kit or equivalent modifications to increase power from standard Class C
Above with R tyres Class D
Your car fits into the last category hence I have recalculated the points for Classes C & D[/

I guess that is reasonably fair in principle, but its a bit hard mid season

However, they seem to have only reclassified me, and left Boo, Trelo, GreenDevil and Stu Jones in the previous class

Yeah, based on this reckoning I should be in Class C, Boo, Trelo, Stu Jones and Yourself in Class D. I might "one click" the Ol' Greendevil and see if I can stay in B

Class D! Wow, and Robbo you still got 10 points

[robbo mcs]

Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil

Yeah, based on this reckoning I should be in Class C, Boo, Trelo, Stu Jones and Yourself in Class D. I might "one click" the Ol' Greendevil and see if I can stay in B

Class D! Wow, and Robbo you still got 10 points

Hi,

Thats the irony, I won D class , but would have come third in C class

I think it is a bit unfair, as I am now up against Arthur Scerri, who has a BMW compact, with non original engine (replaced 1.8 for 2.8l) and then supercharged it

Cheers

Robbo

[2bob]

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs

Hi,

Thats the irony, I won D class , but would have come third in C class

I think it is a bit unfair, as I am now up against Arthur Scerri, who has a BMW compact, with non original engine (replaced 1.8 for 2.8l) and then supercharged it

Cheers

Robbo

One has to wonder why the reclassifaction is there more to it? Minis beating the best of germany etc.Well done on winning D class!

[Greendevil]

Technically Atkin is right .. the solution really is to develop sufficient numbers of track-going Minis so comparable standards of Minis can run together. Arthur's and your car is an excellent example how the Club rules for Minis don't quiet work.

[robbo mcs]

Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil

Technically Atkin is right .. the solution really is to develop sufficient numbers of track-going Minis so comparable standards of Minis can run together. Arthur's and your car is an excellent example how the Club rules for Minis don't quiet work.

Hi Carl,

It would be excellent if we could get enough minis to get two classes, standard minis and modified minis, as they do for "M" cars.

I agree that David is probably right with the re-classification. I felt uncomfortable competing with Andrei in his Z4. He is running completely stock, with street tyres with a 3l engine. Under CAMS / Targa Tassie rules our 1.6l engine is reclassified as 2.7 with the supercharger, but I have cold air intake, headers, exhaust, suspension, track tyres etc, etc.

If they want to put me in D class, bring it on However, I think they should look at Arthur's classification, and have emailed David about that. The other cars in D class, eg David, Jason, John etc are not dissimilar to our cars

Personally, I dont care about the classes, and I benchmark myself against cars that do similar times, regardless of class. I try to beat minis and similar paced cars, regardless of class

Robbo

[Greendevil]

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs

If they want to put me in D class, bring it on However, I think they should look at Arthur's classification, and have emailed David about that. The other cars in D class, eg David, Jason, John etc are not dissimilar to our cars

Personally, I dont care about the classes, and I benchmark myself against cars that do similar times, regardless of class. I try to beat minis and similar paced cars, regardless of class

Robbo

Andrew, that is certainly the right attitude to take. With Trelo, Boo and Stu Jones joining you in D class there will be a group of similar paced cars to benchmark yourself. I'll move to C class from B (as I will retain non-R spec tyres for BMW Club events) and see out the rest of the season there. Semi-slicks, harness and other things to come next year..
I am sure more Minis will join the ranks which will make cars like Arthur's creation more of an oddity (why doesn't he just buy an M3?)

Also, did you check out Francis Chow's time of 1:31 in a stock Cooper S with runflats. Better keep an eye on him!

Looking forward to Eastern Creek now with my new buddies in Class C!!

Have fun

Carl

[Boo]

Definitely looking forward to Eastern Creek

[TRELO]

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs

Hi,

For people participating in BMW club events, there have been some changes.

After the last round at Wakefield park, they have re-classified me from group C to group D

Here is a copy of the correspondence from David Atkin :

I meant to talk to you about that on the weekend but got sidetracked. We have reviewed the classification of new MINIs to:
Cooper Class A
Cooper S stock on road tyres Class B
Cooper S stock on R tyres Class C
Cooper S with works kit or equivalent modifications to increase power from standard Class C
Above with R tyres Class D
Your car fits into the last category hence I have recalculated the points for Classes C & D[/

I guess that is reasonably fair in principle, but its a bit hard mid season

However, they seem to have only reclassified me, and left Boo, Trelo, GreenDevil and Stu Jones in the previous class

Cheers

Robbo

I think the reason is that David Atkin got sick of you beating him , as he is in the same group

[TRELO]

Quote: Originally Posted by TRELO

I think the reason is that David Atkin got sick of you beating him , as he is in the same group

then again , he got moved too

[StuJones]

Private practice day on Friday August 6 being organised by Eastern Creek Raceway where you only need a CAMS L2S licence. Cost is $110 and you book direct with Eastern Creek Raceway and further details on their website www.eastern-creek-raceway.com.

OK whos in. I am definately available for this one.

[robbo mcs]

Quote: Originally Posted by StuJones

Private practice day on Friday August 6 being organised by Eastern Creek Raceway where you only need a CAMS L2S licence. Cost is $110 and you book direct with Eastern Creek Raceway and further details on their website www.eastern-creek-raceway.com.

OK whos in. I am definately available for this one.

Hi,

I'll be away skiing

I go away for one week, and I'm going to miss a Burrows drive day, launch party for the East Coast Rally and a practise day However, the snow is good

KenHenry who is taking his mini on the ski trip has promised me I can do some driver training in his mini on the snow covered car park at Smiggs

Are you going to the BDD Stu? It is good value compared to the open day when you consider that you get the same amount of tracktime on EC, but BDD has 6 instructors, and is well controlled. The open days are a bit of pot luck, and sometimes get a bit crazy Ideally you could go to both, so you get some instruction, learn the track etc on Wednesday and then get to go back and practice what you have learnt on the Friday Might be a bit hard on your tyres and brakes though

By the way, you have to be very careful with the drivers side front tyre at EC. It is completely possible to trash a tyre in a day, if you are not careful. Keep an eye on the pressures, and if necessary swap front to rear at lunch Also keep an eye on the front pads, as EC is quite heavy.

Cheers

Robbo

[StuJones]

When too much motor sport is barely enough

[Greendevil]

I'm up. Get an EC session in b4 GreenDevil is "Whitelined" on the 9th of August. Stu, I have a stopwatch so I can take some times for you if you like. If you could reciprocate that would be great as I'd like see the time difference pre and post supsension mods. I'll book my place tomorrow. Heed Robbo's advice on the tyre wear on the front driver's side wheel - the results of a hard day's drivin' on it can look very nasty..