[eltel]

Quote: Originally Posted by swamos

Think about all this stuff a little. All paint is is plastic. Very expensive plastic. Generally speaking, it's pretty tough too. Unfortunately though, chemicals can attack that plastic.

Up here in QLD we have fruit bats When they Bat Crap your car, you have less than 12 hours to get it off before the surface will be damaged. The longer you leave it, the better it does. Generally speaking, after a couple of days, if you're lucky the primer will be left. If you do what a friend did, leave it to the weekend to wash it off, it removed the lot, down to bear metal, despite the fact that she had the best money can buy in paint protection.

It is all just a sham !! When someone can prove to me that they can stop that, I'll buy it. If it was so good, why don't they put it on at the factory??? Because it doesn't work. Plastic is plastic is plastic.

Steve, I agree that normal paintwork needs lots of protection, most people think that wax will keep their car looking good for years, but that is only part of the solution. Every one needs to think about their own situation and take whatever precautions are necessary.

The film that is used to make see through car bras will stop bat poo, stones and chemicals from actually touching the paintwork. Sure the plastic may get damaged and may need replacing eventually, but you'll still have your original untouched paintwork under the film.

This film is 150 microns thick - that's .15 of a mm, and is pretty tough stuff. It can temporarily stain if bird or bat poo is left there, but the stain is in the film, not in your duco
or clearcoat.

[2bob]

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyB

I know this will probably get moved soon, but I just had another call from the dealer.

Did any of you have this care package stuff done to your MINI?

i.e. That is:

Paint Protection
Leather protections
Fabric protections
etc?

Do any of you recommend anything BMW provide before my pickup?

Theyre apparently ringing back this arvo. It all sounds pretty expensive though...


Thanks in advance

Scotty,
The best protection you can get is the one Wayne Green does at Prestige Auto.Vic and i have had it done. Waynes phone number is 96845577 give him a ring -he is a great guy and gives MINI CLUB members a discount!

[ScottyB]

Quote: Originally Posted by eltel

Yes I have it on both of my cars, but here it is being fitted on a 996. First pic is halfway through the bumper installation, second pic is the finished product, bumper, bonnet, fenders, wheel arches, etc. You can hardly see tthat it's on.

mmm Porsche

I see, so its actually a permanent feature. I was under the impression you could slip it on/off. Dont know if thats exactly what I was looking for, as Id only really need it in convoy on a run, but then if you cant really see it, I spose why not?

[ScottyB]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2bob

Scotty,
The best protection you can get is the one Wayne Green does at Prestige Auto.Vic and i have had it done. Waynes phone number is 96845577 give him a ring -he is a great guy and gives MINI CLUB members a discount!

Ah thanks Bob

No doubt Ill be talking to Mr. Green after the car is in my possession

[poki]

Quote: Originally Posted by MickyD

mine has the Datadot on it, or at least the stickers on the side windows - I didn't ask for it and it wasn't mentioned at any stage, I assumed it must be standard!

Same here!

[eltel]

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyB

mmm Porsche

I see, so its actually a permanent feature. I was under the impression you could slip it on/off. Dont know if thats exactly what I was looking for, as Id only really need it in convoy on a run, but then if you cant really see it, I spose why not?

1. The film has a special adhesive that bonds to your paintwork so that the film doesn't easily come off. In that respect it's called a permanent installation. However, the adhesive will allow the film to be removed without taking off your paint. Once the film is removed, it cannot be reapplied, it's a single-use product. First pic is film being removed from a Lamborghini Gallardo.

2. As you say, if you cannot see it, and it protects your car, why would you want to take it off??. Believe me - you don't just need it when on a run, you will kick yourself after 6 months when you've got tons of small chips if you don't get it on soon. Second pic is a Grand Prix Rally car that has protection film right along the side - you can see the line (just). You can also see no stone chips.

[swamos]

Quote: Originally Posted by eltel

Steve, I agree that normal paintwork needs lots of protection, most people think that wax will keep their car looking good for years, but that is only part of the solution. Every one needs to think about their own situation and take whatever precautions are necessary.

The film that is used to make see through car bras will stop bat poo, stones and chemicals from actually touching the paintwork. Sure the plastic may get damaged and may need replacing eventually, but you'll still have your original untouched paintwork under the film.

This film is 150 microns thick - that's .15 of a mm, and is pretty tough stuff. It can temporarily stain if bird or bat poo is left there, but the stain is in the film, not in your duco
or clearcoat.

Eltel, I know that stuff works. It's probably the only thing that does. Unfortunately, you can't cove the whole car in it And the quote just to do the bonnet and leading edges of the car was $500 when I last looked.

[Todd!]

There is a similar 3M product hat my dad is puttin gon his car when it gets painted.

Duno how much. I've seen some of the film go 'yellowish' after a while.

Todd

[Disco Stu]

Thanks for the excellent tip on wheel well sealing, MickyD. I’ve just ordered a July-build MC, so I’ll be sure to try it on mine to keep things tidy under the bonnet. Should be one of the first of the new builds in town. Due September.

[eltel]

Quote: Originally Posted by Red&blackS

There is a similar 3M product hat my dad is puttin gon his car when it gets painted.

Duno how much. I've seen some of the film go 'yellowish' after a while.

Todd

Todd, make sure that your dad's paint job is fully cured before the film goes on. Release of solvent gases from uncured paintwork can cause bubbles. Worse, it means that the installer could actually pull the paint off during the installation - seen that a few times. Best to let the paint cure fully.

The 3M paint protection film has a 3 year warranty against yellowing. It has UV-inhibitors to minimise yellowing. Certainly older generations of film suffered from yellowing badly.

[swamos]

Quote: Originally Posted by Red&blackS

There is a similar 3M product hat my dad is puttin gon his car when it gets painted.

Duno how much. I've seen some of the film go 'yellowish' after a while.

Todd

I can't see eltel worrying too much about that

[warped]

Quote: Originally Posted by swamos

Eltel, I know that stuff works. It's probably the only thing that does. Unfortunately, you can't cove the whole car in it And the quote just to do the bonnet and leading edges of the car was $500 when I last looked.

Aren't we getting a little carried away with this

Car paint while not bullet proof is designed for a rather rough life, unfortunately Australian Fruit Bats (and trust me they aren't just a problem in Queensland) exceed the design spec by a rather significant margin

The simplest way of minimising stone chips is to watch your following distances

I'm rather paranoid about stone chips so I tend to follow the 1001-1002 rule religiously (admittedly the rule was designed for breaking distances ) but the difference in my car's paint and others is quite dramatic ... admittedly I still have one or two nasty ones (including one on the drivers side door which I haven't quite worked out yet ) but between OziCozi and some defensive driving you should be pretty much fine

As for the cost if you have to get anything more than a couple of panels resprayed it rapidly becomes cost effective

[eltel]

Quote: Originally Posted by swamos

I can't see eltel worrying too much about that

I didn't buy LY MINIs for that reason, but it sure helps if things go wrong.

[Todd!]

Quote: Originally Posted by swamos

I can't see eltel worrying too much about that

x2!!

He He!!

He can just swap bits in the end, make one super model!! and sell of the left overs!!

Todd

[erichui]

Quote: Originally Posted by eltel

Todd, make sure that your dad's paint job is fully cured before the film goes on. Release of solvent gases from uncured paintwork can cause bubbles. Worse, it means that the installer could actually pull the paint off during the installation - seen that a few times. Best to let the paint cure fully.

The 3M paint protection film has a 3 year warranty against yellowing. It has UV-inhibitors to minimise yellowing. Certainly older generations of film suffered from yellowing badly.

so how long does new paint takes to fully cure??
counting roughly 2-3 months it takes from the factory to come to australia, how long would 1 need to wait before putting those film on??
and does anyone know a place to apply the film (professionally done of course) in sydney? and the price for the bonnet and the bumper maybe (swamos said around 500dollars??)
if its around that price i think it might be worth doing since from my old experience my bonnet was full of chips after a few months of highway driving.

[warped]

Quote: Originally Posted by erichui

so how long does new paint takes to fully cure??

I can only relate what I've been told by smash repair places ... but it seems like the general consensus is, it's driveable after 48 hours but probably takes more than a week to fully cure subject to climatic conditions ...

As for application and dollars I think there are a few people on the board a little more qualified to answer that question than me

[Boo]

Hi all,
back from the Dutton Rally... and what a blast it was
More will be written in the correct thread.
AS for this one I just want to say that no-one has come up to me and said what is that on the front of your car... because they haven't seen it. Especially when it is clean. When i point the clear stone chip protector out to them they are actually impressed and want to know more about it.
If i had the opportunity to put it on before i drove my car out of the showroom i would have. The amount of stone chips on the front of my car is really bad after 40K kms.

Here is a picture of my car with the OZICOZI stone protection kit on. I have made it as big as Mini2 will let me.
You can just see the line, if you know where to look

[swamos]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boo

Hi all,
back from the Dutton Rally... and what a blast it was
More will be written in the correct thread.
AS for this one I just want to say that no-one has come up to me and said what is that on the front of your car... because they haven't seen it. Especially when it is clean. When i point the clear stone chip protector out to them they are actually impressed and want to know more about it.
If i had the opportunity to put it on before i drove my car out of the showroom i would have. The amount of stone chips on the front of my car is really bad after 40K kms.

Here is a picture of my car with the OZICOZI stone protection kit on. I have made it as big as Mini2 will let me.
You can just see the line, if you know where to look

How much was it?? They are a great idea as long as they are not too expensive It's probably too late for my car though. In a couple of years I'll just splash the $300 and get the whole front re-painted..

[Boo]

For me it was thousands of dollars in training and set up equipment.
My new venture is OZICOZI NSW so i will be installing the product onto cars for those who wish to avoid the damage my Mini has received over the last 18 months. Prices will be available soon, however for those who wish to enquire send me an email to andrew@ozicozi.com.au

[eltel]

Quote: Originally Posted by erichui

so how long does new paint takes to fully cure??
counting roughly 2-3 months it takes from the factory to come to australia, how long would 1 need to wait before putting those film on??
and does anyone know a place to apply the film (professionally done of course) in sydney? and the price for the bonnet and the bumper maybe (swamos said around 500dollars??)
if its around that price i think it might be worth doing since from my old experience my bonnet was full of chips after a few months of highway driving.

Eric,
1.by the time that a new MINI owner picks up thier car the paint would be fully cured.
2. Give Boo a call at OZICOZI NSW and he will give you a price which includes installation. You will find it to be very competitive.
3. A very good respray (not a touchup) of bonnet, bumper, grille slats will cost you more than putting an OZICOZI on.
4. Even if you get a great spray job done, what are you going to do to stop stone chips on the way home, or a week after? Let's face it, you would probably not get a respray until you are about to sell it. Things can get pretty bad over 3 to 5 years of road damage.
5. With the film on, you don't have to worry about your car deteriorating and after 5 years it should look in showroom condition when you go to sell.