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OZChris · Dec 2nd, 2004, 10:38 PM

Hi All

I put a set of Aussie made King Springs on my Cooper.

RIde height had dropped by about 20mm all round. Ride has certainly stiffened up. Bit early to report much else.

Photos attached.

Chris

minigolf · Dec 2nd, 2004, 10:59 PM

Nice one. Will be keen to hear more...

Cheers Liam

robbo mcs · Dec 3rd, 2004, 07:26 AM

Hi,

Looks great Chris

Kings make a good quality product

Do you know what rating they are?

Cheers

Robbo

tommyb · Dec 3rd, 2004, 03:01 PM

Looks great Chris.

How much?

T.

doona · Dec 3rd, 2004, 08:30 PM

Chris,

They look great.

My mate (the one with the SUPER RICE Cooper S) has them installed as well.

From memory, he told me that they were not that expensive.

Dan

OZChris · Dec 4th, 2004, 05:59 AM

Springs cost $250. I got some help putting them in.

Let me know if I can help if anyone is after a set.

Chris

eltel · Dec 4th, 2004, 11:11 AM

Looks very nice, Chris. I'm afraid my chiro bills would be too excessive to consider such a mod. Let me know how it's going in about a month (or 500 kms, whichever comes first).

I'll check them out tomorrow.

Todd! · Dec 4th, 2004, 11:30 AM

Catch you tomorrow Terry...

Im passengering it up with Kev, so see you there!

Todd

AussieMini · Dec 5th, 2004, 12:32 AM

Because I am not much of a car techno person could some let me know if there are advantages of installing these springs. I know it lowers the MINI but will it handle better? If so - fantastic. Are they a much cheaper version of the JCW suspension or will the JCW gear make a huge difference???

All these questions and more.

Danny

Stumpmeister · Dec 9th, 2004, 03:28 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by AussieMini

Because I am not much of a car techno person could some let me know if there are advantages of installing these springs. I know it lowers the MINI but will it handle better? If so - fantastic. Are they a much cheaper version of the JCW suspension or will the JCW gear make a huge difference???

All these questions and more.

Danny

I have a shiny set of H&R coils on my MCS and they definately make the car handle better with regard to cornering. They are stiffer but even with a load of four people the ride is still quite comfortable. I have heard that Eibach springs are a little more supple than H&R's but the people I have heard say that, have not tried H&R's - I would be surprised if there is that much difference, as the spring qualities are determined by the cars weight properties.
There is one thing to keep in mind though and that is the construction of the spring - the European's tend to make their springs with the "Cold rolling" method, which means the torsion or spring qualities of the steel are not effected as much as "Hot rolling". The extra heat in hot rolling relies more on the "tempering process" than cold rolling. This said the cold rolling also allows the springs to be made of a lighter gauge steel (thinner cross sectional diameter) which means the spring are lighter and therefore the unsprung weight is less which equals even better handling.

minigolf · Dec 9th, 2004, 03:52 AM

/me wants lowering spirngs for Christmas ... and a pulley reduction/ECU upgrade ... and a new exhaust ... and a MININ Driver Training course ... and

FLiPSiDE · Dec 9th, 2004, 05:31 AM

GOT BUMPSTEER?

hahaha SOMEONE had to say it hahahahahahaha

im gonna put my whiteline gear in one day... haha mayb this weekend if i could be bothered

IML337 · Dec 9th, 2004, 05:41 AM

eeeeehehehehheheheh

Todd! · Dec 9th, 2004, 05:53 AM

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!

Send me those photos Wes!!

You're a nutter!

Todd

FLiPSiDE · Dec 9th, 2004, 05:56 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Red&blackS

Send me those photos Wes!!

oh yeah! haha man keep forgetting.. doing it now i promise! haha

Todd! · Dec 9th, 2004, 06:01 AM

woteffa!

Thanks man... I hope you are still hanging together!!

Todd

wils · Feb 1st, 2005, 04:19 AM

hey so how r the kings springs going after a couple of months? noticed any difference yet? r u scraping everywhere? is the ride really bumpy now? is the handling any different? i'm trying to decide between kings and eibachs coz i've heard eibachs are the best but kings are almost half the price....so hard decision...

OZChris · Feb 1st, 2005, 04:59 AM

wsw

Yeah, it has been a couple of months now. Certainly it's a much stiffer ride. Note that I am running 215/40-17 wheels and tyres - so that also contributes to the stiffer ride. Overall, I am very happy. No scraping at all.

Let me know if I can help with anything.

Here's a recent photo.

Chris

KGB · Feb 1st, 2005, 10:09 PM

Chris,

You'll get to sample an Eibach equiped car on Sunday.....
Will be interesting to hear your thoughts vs the Kings.

KGB

ecylai · Feb 5th, 2005, 12:22 PM

How much was the car lower from the standard ride?
mmmm
Chris ya car looks nice with the springs installed.

Dec 2nd, 2004, 10:38 PM	#1
OZChris MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 2,558 Offline	Aussie King Springs Installed and pics. Hi All I put a set of Aussie made King Springs on my Cooper. RIde height had dropped by about 20mm all round. Ride has certainly stiffened up. Bit early to report much else. Photos attached. Chris Attached Thumbnails

Dec 2nd, 2004, 10:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 14,072 Offline	Nice one. Will be keen to hear more... Cheers Liam Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

Dec 3rd, 2004, 07:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 2,668 Offline	Hi, Looks great Chris Kings make a good quality product Do you know what rating they are? Cheers Robbo Mods: GO MADDIE and SPARKY!

Dec 4th, 2004, 11:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 10,892 Offline	Catch you tomorrow Terry... Im passengering it up with Kev, so see you there! Todd PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

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minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 14,072 Offline	/me wants lowering spirngs for Christmas ... and a pulley reduction/ECU upgrade ... and a new exhaust ... and a MININ Driver Training course ... and Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

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Dec 3rd, 2004, 03:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
tommyb MININUTTTA Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Central Coast, NSW Local Time: 01:51 AM Posts: 59 Offline	Looks great Chris. How much? T.

Dec 3rd, 2004, 08:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
doona ......... Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 2,819 Offline	Chris, They look great. My mate (the one with the SUPER RICE Cooper S) has them installed as well. From memory, he told me that they were not that expensive. Dan

Dec 4th, 2004, 05:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
OZChris MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 2,558 Offline	Springs cost $250. I got some help putting them in. Let me know if I can help if anyone is after a set. Chris

Dec 4th, 2004, 11:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
eltel MINIstry of Fun Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eastern Suburbs, Mel Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 1,593 Offline	Looks very nice, Chris. I'm afraid my chiro bills would be too excessive to consider such a mod. Let me know how it's going in about a month (or 500 kms, whichever comes first). I'll check them out tomorrow.

Dec 5th, 2004, 12:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
AussieMini MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brisbane Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 705 Offline	Because I am not much of a car techno person could some let me know if there are advantages of installing these springs. I know it lowers the MINI but will it handle better? If so - fantastic. Are they a much cheaper version of the JCW suspension or will the JCW gear make a huge difference??? All these questions and more. Danny

Dec 9th, 2004, 03:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
Stumpmeister Got Deep(ish) Dish! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canberra, AUSTRALIA Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 350 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by AussieMini Because I am not much of a car techno person could some let me know if there are advantages of installing these springs. I know it lowers the MINI but will it handle better? If so - fantastic. Are they a much cheaper version of the JCW suspension or will the JCW gear make a huge difference??? All these questions and more. Danny I have a shiny set of H&R coils on my MCS and they definately make the car handle better with regard to cornering. They are stiffer but even with a load of four people the ride is still quite comfortable. I have heard that Eibach springs are a little more supple than H&R's but the people I have heard say that, have not tried H&R's - I would be surprised if there is that much difference, as the spring qualities are determined by the cars weight properties. There is one thing to keep in mind though and that is the construction of the spring - the European's tend to make their springs with the "Cold rolling" method, which means the torsion or spring qualities of the steel are not effected as much as "Hot rolling". The extra heat in hot rolling relies more on the "tempering process" than cold rolling. This said the cold rolling also allows the springs to be made of a lighter gauge steel (thinner cross sectional diameter) which means the spring are lighter and therefore the unsprung weight is less which equals even better handling.

Dec 9th, 2004, 05:31 AM	#12 (permalink)
FLiPSiDE I am Jacks wasted life Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 579 Offline	GOT BUMPSTEER? hahaha SOMEONE had to say it hahahahahahaha im gonna put my whiteline gear in one day... haha mayb this weekend if i could be bothered

Dec 9th, 2004, 05:41 AM	#13 (permalink)
IML337 saving the world Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Aus Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 3,063 Offline	eeeeehehehehheheheh

Dec 9th, 2004, 05:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 10,892 Offline	Bwahahahahahaha!!!! Send me those photos Wes!! You're a nutter! Todd PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

Dec 9th, 2004, 05:56 AM	#15 (permalink)
FLiPSiDE I am Jacks wasted life Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 579 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Red&blackS Send me those photos Wes!! oh yeah! haha man keep forgetting.. doing it now i promise! haha

Dec 9th, 2004, 06:01 AM	#16 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 10,892 Offline	woteffa! Thanks man... I hope you are still hanging together!! Todd PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

Feb 1st, 2005, 04:19 AM	#17 (permalink)
wils formerly known as wsw Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 684 Offline	hey so how r the kings springs going after a couple of months? noticed any difference yet? r u scraping everywhere? is the ride really bumpy now? is the handling any different? i'm trying to decide between kings and eibachs coz i've heard eibachs are the best but kings are almost half the price....so hard decision... i got an exhaust because i wanted to make my car sound fast, but its not fast at all, so therefore i am a ricer....

Feb 1st, 2005, 04:59 AM	#18 (permalink)
OZChris MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 2,558 Offline	wsw Yeah, it has been a couple of months now. Certainly it's a much stiffer ride. Note that I am running 215/40-17 wheels and tyres - so that also contributes to the stiffer ride. Overall, I am very happy. No scraping at all. Let me know if I can help with anything. Here's a recent photo. Chris Last edited by OZChris : Feb 1st, 2005 at 06:01 AM.

Feb 1st, 2005, 10:09 PM	#19 (permalink)
KGB MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2003 Location: Melbourne Inner Local Time: 01:51 AM Posts: 825 Offline	Chris, You'll get to sample an Eibach equiped car on Sunday..... Will be interesting to hear your thoughts vs the Kings. KGB

Feb 5th, 2005, 12:22 PM	#20 (permalink)
ecylai #0024 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney,Aus Local Time: 02:51 PM Posts: 526 Offline	How much was the car lower from the standard ride? mmmm Chris ya car looks nice with the springs installed. ]

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