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MAD Always · Jan 11th, 2005, 07:59 AM

Hi Guys,

I paid a deposit on 5th Jan 05, for a new MCS. I have not been given a
production number yet.

The Question I have is, when I pick up my Mini, how will I know if the
car has a LSD or not?

p.s. I do not want to spin the wheels as I leave the dealership.

minigolf · Jan 11th, 2005, 08:08 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MAD Always

I do not want to spin the wheels as I leave the dealership.

Well that's easy then, just wait until you get around the corner!

Seeing as you've got an early Jan 05 order, your car will be built somewhere between Feb and March I'd guess which, by my understanding, means you'll be getting the LSD. I believe (but I could be wrong) that all Australian spec MCSs built from Jan 05 onwards will be getting the LSD as a standard fitment.

Lucky you!

minigolf · Jan 11th, 2005, 08:09 AM

Oh yeah, nearly forgot. Congrats on your order, welcome to MINI2, stick around and we'll help you get through "the wait" most of us have been there as well.

Cheers Liam

StuJones · Jan 11th, 2005, 08:11 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MAD Always

Hi Guys,

I paid a deposit on 5th Jan 05, for a new MCS. I have not been given a
production number yet.

The Question I have is, when I pick up my Mini, how will I know if the
car has a LSD or not?

p.s. I do not want to spin the wheels as I leave the dealership.

If its an MCS with a Jan 05 build or later then it will have LSD. If it don't then there is a serious production line problem.

As we wont see an Jan 05 build till March I have no idea what to look for yet?

Maybe Scotty and his wonderful powers of forum searching can come up with the goods!!!

Stu

MAD Always · Jan 11th, 2005, 08:20 AM

Thanks for the responses.

I have been reading the Mini2 forums for a few months now and
only registered today.

I'm looking forward on going on some "Mini Runs" after I receive
my new car.

p.s. I might just spin the wheels around the corner from the dealers.

robbo mcs · Jan 11th, 2005, 08:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MAD Always

Hi Guys,

I paid a deposit on 5th Jan 05, for a new MCS. I have not been given a
production number yet.

The Question I have is, when I pick up my Mini, how will I know if the
car has a LSD or not?

p.s. I do not want to spin the wheels as I leave the dealership.

Hi,

Welcome

There are 3 ways to determine whether you have a LSD

The fun way : find an open area, eg car park lot. Turn your steering to around 45 degree, rev the car to around 4000 rpm, and drop the clutch

It should soon become pretty clear

Note : I am not recommending or condoning such irresponsible behaviour

The scientific way : put your car in neutral, leave the handbrake on, chock the rear wheels and then jack up both sides at the front. Try to "free wheel" the front wheels one side at a time. With a LSD you should be able to move either wheel independently.

The pragmattic way : ask your dealer

However, there is no guarantee that this will be correct

Cheers

Robbo

minigolf · Jan 11th, 2005, 08:40 AM

It's the coming down afterwards that's the worst bit about LSD.

swamos · Jan 11th, 2005, 09:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by minigolf

It's the coming down afterwards that's the worst bit about LSD.

I now understand where the name "Little Blue" came from

Welcome along MA

enzothemaddog · Jan 11th, 2005, 09:36 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs

The pragmattic way : ask your dealer

However, there is no guarantee that this will be correct

Cheers

Robbo

true, true.
Just like when they say that Minis hold good resale value

Goonery · Jan 11th, 2005, 09:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MAD Always

Hi Guys,

I paid a deposit on 5th Jan 05, for a new MCS. I have not been given a
production number yet.

The Question I have is, when I pick up my Mini, how will I know if the
car has a LSD or not?

p.s. I do not want to spin the wheels as I leave the dealership.

First, the build date will be post Jan 05 I hope, second you have a manual gearbox, third, you have specced Chilli pack which includes LSD. the only way an 's' gets no LSD from now is if its not got Chilli pack and is / or Automatic transmission.
Auto's will get LSD at some point in the future I guess, but why ?

Todd! · Jan 11th, 2005, 10:19 AM

Hey mate - welcome to the forums...

What part of Aus are you in?

Todd

StuJones · Jan 11th, 2005, 10:40 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by goonery

First, the build date will be post Jan 05 I hope, second you have a manual gearbox, third, you have specced Chilli pack which includes LSD. the only way an 's' gets no LSD from now is if its not got Chilli pack and is / or Automatic transmission.
Auto's will get LSD at some point in the future I guess, but why ?

That may be the case overseas but all Cooper S in OZ Chilli or non-Chilli get LSD

minigolf · Jan 11th, 2005, 11:03 AM

Yeah, we even have our tachos in the middle you know!

Todd! · Jan 11th, 2005, 11:37 AM

Im more of a nachos fan Liam...

MAD Always · Jan 11th, 2005, 01:17 PM

Hi Red&blackS,

I'm in Sydney, living in the Sutherland Shire. I decided
on a Chilli Red and White MCS but it very nearly was
a Red and Black. I wanted a Pepper White and Black
but my wife pulled rank forced me to choose the CR.
I don't mind I still like the CR colour.

I'm hoping that as LSD equipped MCS's arrive in the country
we will be able to determine if LSD is fitted by just looking
under the bonnet and seeing something that will distinguish
if LSD is fitted.

Regards,
MA

Todd! · Jan 11th, 2005, 01:35 PM

Thanks for the reply MA...

Im sure you will find many friendly people in NSW to play mini with when it arrives.

The CR option is aa great one... I very nearly went CR/W, but there was a CR/B on the floor and I fell in love... my girlfriend at the time said the CR/W was very classical mini, but very common - there must be 10 in Geelong (of 50 - thats too large % for me!) and the CR/B was sporty and classy... not that it mattered as I had firmly chosen CR/B moments I saw it...

I have heard the new Jan 05 and later model comes into Australia with factory LSD, so I assume that it is true - as for the obvious markings, I have no idea - I wouldnt expect to open the bonnet and have "Limited slip differential" written in 72pt type...

I would start by checking the official website in Australia for the specification list, either that or get your dealer to show you the press release stating that the future variant has the LSD - and also on your ordering form...

Todd

Magictux · Jan 13th, 2005, 12:06 PM

G'Day MA,

Ive ordered the same colour combo and my dealer rang me to say it'd be fitted with LSD. We're in the same 'Labour Ward' mate... Mine's due in April. I've got to say I've got the pains already...

Tux
Goulburn NSW..

Todd! · Jan 13th, 2005, 12:16 PM

You can alwasy change to RnB to stand out a bit - you wont regret it

MAD Always · Jan 14th, 2005, 09:47 PM

Good Morning Tux and Todd,

Rang the dealer yesterday and was told that I should get a production number
next week.

The question of white or black roof was reinforced yesterday when I went to
North Cronulla beach. I had to walk to my car across the tar in the car park,
bare foot. It was a 30 degrees plus day and I would stop walking and give the
feet a break by standing on the white marker lines in the car park. The temperature
difference between the lines and the tar was remarkable.

Since this is a Limited Slip Diff thread, I better ask a question about LSD. Will the
dealer give me any paperwork that describes if LSD has been ordered? Or is there
paper work available that describes the standard Australian MCS specification?

Regards,
Paul

Magictux · Jan 14th, 2005, 10:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MAD Always

Good Morning Tux and Todd,

Rang the dealer yesterday and was told that I should get a production number
next week.

The question of white or black roof was reinforced yesterday when I went to
North Cronulla beach. I had to walk to my car across the tar in the car park,
bare foot. It was a 30 degrees plus day and I would stop walking and give the
feet a break by standing on the white marker lines in the car park. The temperature
difference between the lines and the tar was remarkable.

Since this is a Limited Slip Diff thread, I better ask a question about LSD. Will the
dealer give me any paperwork that describes if LSD has been ordered? Or is there
paper work available that describes the standard Australian MCS specification?

Regards,
Paul

To be fair to the black roof though it is shiny not dull so the difference might not be so much...Also if you get the sunroof there isn't much to block the sun anyway. I'm going the white because it's my personal favourite.

RedNBlackS suggests the black roof to make it stand out.. I reckon it'll stand out anyway and really the CR/W combo isn't all that common on the road.. I don't see that many..

With regard to the LSD, I think it will be noted somewhere on the paperwork, but if not it will be a 'given' as the build date will be after 01/05. I'm gong to the dealer's today so I'll ask that one for ya..

Tux

Jan 11th, 2005, 07:59 AM	#1
MAD Always Mini Tragic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Menai, Sydney Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 491 Offline	How Will I Know If I Have LSD Hi Guys, I paid a deposit on 5th Jan 05, for a new MCS. I have not been given a production number yet. The Question I have is, when I pick up my Mini, how will I know if the car has a LSD or not? p.s. I do not want to spin the wheels as I leave the dealership.

Jan 11th, 2005, 08:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 07:33 AM Posts: 13,849 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MAD Always I do not want to spin the wheels as I leave the dealership. Well that's easy then, just wait until you get around the corner! Seeing as you've got an early Jan 05 order, your car will be built somewhere between Feb and March I'd guess which, by my understanding, means you'll be getting the LSD. I believe (but I could be wrong) that all Australian spec MCSs built from Jan 05 onwards will be getting the LSD as a standard fitment. Lucky you! Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

Jan 11th, 2005, 08:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 07:33 AM Posts: 13,849 Offline	Oh yeah, nearly forgot. Congrats on your order, welcome to MINI2, stick around and we'll help you get through "the wait" most of us have been there as well. Cheers Liam Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

Jan 11th, 2005, 08:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
StuJones my second passion, a tin! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cronulla, NSW Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 733 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MAD Always Hi Guys, I paid a deposit on 5th Jan 05, for a new MCS. I have not been given a production number yet. The Question I have is, when I pick up my Mini, how will I know if the car has a LSD or not? p.s. I do not want to spin the wheels as I leave the dealership. If its an MCS with a Jan 05 build or later then it will have LSD. If it don't then there is a serious production line problem. As we wont see an Jan 05 build till March I have no idea what to look for yet? Maybe Scotty and his wonderful powers of forum searching can come up with the goods!!! Stu 2002 BRG MCS with more mods than can remember The thieves choice in race cars 2005 BEP MCS stock standard and staying that way

Jan 11th, 2005, 08:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:33 AM Posts: 2,620 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MAD Always Hi Guys, I paid a deposit on 5th Jan 05, for a new MCS. I have not been given a production number yet. The Question I have is, when I pick up my Mini, how will I know if the car has a LSD or not? p.s. I do not want to spin the wheels as I leave the dealership. Hi, Welcome There are 3 ways to determine whether you have a LSD The fun way : find an open area, eg car park lot. Turn your steering to around 45 degree, rev the car to around 4000 rpm, and drop the clutch It should soon become pretty clear Note : I am not recommending or condoning such irresponsible behaviour The scientific way : put your car in neutral, leave the handbrake on, chock the rear wheels and then jack up both sides at the front. Try to "free wheel" the front wheels one side at a time. With a LSD you should be able to move either wheel independently. The pragmattic way : ask your dealer However, there is no guarantee that this will be correct Cheers Robbo Mods: GO MADDIE and SPARKY!

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Jan 11th, 2005, 08:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
MAD Always Mini Tragic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Menai, Sydney Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 491 Offline	Thanks for the responses. I have been reading the Mini2 forums for a few months now and only registered today. I'm looking forward on going on some "Mini Runs" after I receive my new car. p.s. I might just spin the wheels around the corner from the dealers.

Jan 11th, 2005, 08:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 07:33 AM Posts: 13,849 Offline	It's the coming down afterwards that's the worst bit about LSD. Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

Jan 11th, 2005, 09:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 4,985 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by minigolf It's the coming down afterwards that's the worst bit about LSD. I now understand where the name "Little Blue" came from Welcome along MA

Jan 11th, 2005, 09:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
enzothemaddog Un-Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Train Station Toilet Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 2,067 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs The pragmattic way : ask your dealer However, there is no guarantee that this will be correct Cheers Robbo true, true. Just like when they say that Minis hold good resale value

Jan 11th, 2005, 09:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
Goonery 6X therapist My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Local Time: 08:33 PM Posts: 13,658 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MAD Always Hi Guys, I paid a deposit on 5th Jan 05, for a new MCS. I have not been given a production number yet. The Question I have is, when I pick up my Mini, how will I know if the car has a LSD or not? p.s. I do not want to spin the wheels as I leave the dealership. First, the build date will be post Jan 05 I hope, second you have a manual gearbox, third, you have specced Chilli pack which includes LSD. the only way an 's' gets no LSD from now is if its not got Chilli pack and is / or Automatic transmission. Auto's will get LSD at some point in the future I guess, but why ?

Jan 11th, 2005, 10:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	Hey mate - welcome to the forums... What part of Aus are you in? Todd PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

Jan 11th, 2005, 10:40 AM	#12 (permalink)
StuJones my second passion, a tin! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cronulla, NSW Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 733 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by goonery First, the build date will be post Jan 05 I hope, second you have a manual gearbox, third, you have specced Chilli pack which includes LSD. the only way an 's' gets no LSD from now is if its not got Chilli pack and is / or Automatic transmission. Auto's will get LSD at some point in the future I guess, but why ? That may be the case overseas but all Cooper S in OZ Chilli or non-Chilli get LSD 2002 BRG MCS with more mods than can remember The thieves choice in race cars 2005 BEP MCS stock standard and staying that way

Jan 11th, 2005, 11:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 07:33 AM Posts: 13,849 Offline	Yeah, we even have our tachos in the middle you know! Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

Jan 11th, 2005, 11:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	Im more of a nachos fan Liam... PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

Jan 11th, 2005, 01:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
MAD Always Mini Tragic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Menai, Sydney Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 491 Offline	Hi Red&blackS, I'm in Sydney, living in the Sutherland Shire. I decided on a Chilli Red and White MCS but it very nearly was a Red and Black. I wanted a Pepper White and Black but my wife pulled rank forced me to choose the CR. I don't mind I still like the CR colour. I'm hoping that as LSD equipped MCS's arrive in the country we will be able to determine if LSD is fitted by just looking under the bonnet and seeing something that will distinguish if LSD is fitted. Regards, MA

Jan 11th, 2005, 01:35 PM	#16 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	Thanks for the reply MA... Im sure you will find many friendly people in NSW to play mini with when it arrives. The CR option is aa great one... I very nearly went CR/W, but there was a CR/B on the floor and I fell in love... my girlfriend at the time said the CR/W was very classical mini, but very common - there must be 10 in Geelong (of 50 - thats too large % for me!) and the CR/B was sporty and classy... not that it mattered as I had firmly chosen CR/B moments I saw it... I have heard the new Jan 05 and later model comes into Australia with factory LSD, so I assume that it is true - as for the obvious markings, I have no idea - I wouldnt expect to open the bonnet and have "Limited slip differential" written in 72pt type... I would start by checking the official website in Australia for the specification list, either that or get your dealer to show you the press release stating that the future variant has the LSD - and also on your ordering form... Todd PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

Jan 13th, 2005, 12:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
Magictux -Mr T- Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Goulburn NSW Oz Local Time: 07:33 AM Posts: 1,819 Offline	G'Day MA, Ive ordered the same colour combo and my dealer rang me to say it'd be fitted with LSD. We're in the same 'Labour Ward' mate... Mine's due in April. I've got to say I've got the pains already... Tux Goulburn NSW..

Jan 13th, 2005, 12:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	You can alwasy change to RnB to stand out a bit - you wont regret it PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

Jan 14th, 2005, 09:47 PM	#19 (permalink)
MAD Always Mini Tragic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Menai, Sydney Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 491 Offline	Good Morning Tux and Todd, Rang the dealer yesterday and was told that I should get a production number next week. The question of white or black roof was reinforced yesterday when I went to North Cronulla beach. I had to walk to my car across the tar in the car park, bare foot. It was a 30 degrees plus day and I would stop walking and give the feet a break by standing on the white marker lines in the car park. The temperature difference between the lines and the tar was remarkable. Since this is a Limited Slip Diff thread, I better ask a question about LSD. Will the dealer give me any paperwork that describes if LSD has been ordered? Or is there paper work available that describes the standard Australian MCS specification? Regards, Paul

Jan 14th, 2005, 10:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
Magictux -Mr T- Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Goulburn NSW Oz Local Time: 07:33 AM Posts: 1,819 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MAD Always Good Morning Tux and Todd, Rang the dealer yesterday and was told that I should get a production number next week. The question of white or black roof was reinforced yesterday when I went to North Cronulla beach. I had to walk to my car across the tar in the car park, bare foot. It was a 30 degrees plus day and I would stop walking and give the feet a break by standing on the white marker lines in the car park. The temperature difference between the lines and the tar was remarkable. Since this is a Limited Slip Diff thread, I better ask a question about LSD. Will the dealer give me any paperwork that describes if LSD has been ordered? Or is there paper work available that describes the standard Australian MCS specification? Regards, Paul To be fair to the black roof though it is shiny not dull so the difference might not be so much...Also if you get the sunroof there isn't much to block the sun anyway. I'm going the white because it's my personal favourite. RedNBlackS suggests the black roof to make it stand out.. I reckon it'll stand out anyway and really the CR/W combo isn't all that common on the road.. I don't see that many.. With regard to the LSD, I think it will be noted somewhere on the paperwork, but if not it will be a 'given' as the build date will be after 01/05. I'm gong to the dealer's today so I'll ask that one for ya.. Tux

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