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nike61 · Mar 29th, 2005, 06:24 AM

Hi all

Guys, just starting to look for a Cooper S, but in Perth, WA there are very few second hand available in the market.

Ideally, I want to purchase after 30 June 2005, but will consider anything early. I have viewed the usual sites like Carsales, Carpoint, Autotrader, Motorpoint and majority are on the eastern coast, which is fine, as stamp duty is by far cheaper.

There is a 2002 in Melbourne with JCW installed which is of interest, but not necessary, my only really requirements are for 17in Wheels, prefer stripes, ideally would like British Green or Dark Blue, but I want low kms and mint condition only.

Happy to purchase from anywhere in Australia for right mini.

Let me know or send any photos of any Mini that you know is available.

Nike61

Todd! · Mar 29th, 2005, 06:55 AM

G'day - I see your search continues...

I feel that you are not going to find a car second hand that is up to your standards.

Maybe you have a look at saving for a little longer or what ever and buying brand new. From memory you said you had time up your sleeve, why not order what you want and then you can be the first person to maintain the car.

The JCW in Victoria that you are refering to is a brilliantly maintained car (amongst the best kept from my travels) - the body work is immaculate... dont let abit of dust on a CD player turn you off - In the end it can wipe off.

It will be hard to find a true enthusiast that has maintained their car and is selling it. It is that simple. Most of the cars on carpoint or carsales have not been maintained to the standard of most of the owners on mini2... in saying that there are a only a hnadful that go to great efforts to maintain their cars in immaculate condition. Most prefer to drive it rather than hide it in the garage.

Im sure that you will be more than welcomed into the WA community - they are a great bunch over there.

Go new - maintain it to your high standards, you wont regret it.

Todd

KGB · Mar 29th, 2005, 07:00 AM

hear, hear, true words of a true believer...
well put Toddmeister.

minigolf · Mar 29th, 2005, 07:03 AM

Also, based on anecdotal evidence, I'd probably rule out any cars built before 2004???

How is stamp duty cheaper if you buy interstate. If you register the car in WA, surely you'll be paying stamp duty in WA???

Good luck searching anyway, however, put me down as another recommedning the NEW purchase option.

Cheers Liam

Todd! · Mar 29th, 2005, 07:10 AM

Maybe MickyD will sell you his

That has been maintained well

doona · Mar 29th, 2005, 11:16 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Red&blackS

Maybe MickyD will sell you his

That has been maintained well

And it comes with one-off custom paint work on the driving lights and intercooler cover!!

-Dan

n00b · Mar 29th, 2005, 03:03 PM

I am selling mine very well maintained example except, just about every '02 built cars' faults are pretty apparent...lol.

Having said that, I've eliminated nearly all of them except the annoying rattles. I blame the suspension being a bit harsh to cause it ha ha ha.

(I am 100% serious about selling it, see my post in the for sale section)

nike61 · Mar 30th, 2005, 02:06 AM

Thanks guys, and thansk again Todd.

Yep its hard, the one in Geelong is great, but its hard to justify the cost difference to buy new, but then again, at least then I can choose finance or cash, as finance companies are funny about private purchases.

Regarding stamp duty, interesting subject, but if you ask WA SD office they of course want you to pay their duty, but I have checked, the only issue if if you buy in WA a car registered elsewhere ie Victoria, then you have to get temp plates and pay WA SD. However, if the car is in Victoria etc, you pay SD as Victoria, then you have 3 months to transfer and only then pay the rego.

For info, WA is the most expensive ie say $39000, the SD in WA is about $2600 where in Victoria it is $1500, so I can pay $160 for RACV inspection, $880 for boxed/enclosed transport and still get it to WA for less than the SD in WA. Absurd.

I will continue to monitor the site. There is a nice British Green Mini S 2003 with only 2,500 kms on clock in Adelaide, but with non mini dealer [Adelaide Special Vehicles], its in Motorpoint from memory, as ex a directors weekend car, has 17inch rims and been lowered, want $37995 for it which is a good price.

I looked at a light blue 2004 mini S with only 8,000 kms but as standard with 16in, in WA, the only one, mint condition and wants $36500. So there are deals around.

I agree with Todd, the best around currently is the JCW from Geelong but 2002 model. Im still thinking about it.

Cheers

Todd! · Mar 30th, 2005, 02:38 AM

The Adelaide car sounds good... but only driven on weekends could been a number of things... there are lots of motorsports on weekends

Keep looking anyway.

Thinking about it all, if I was to do it again - i would buy a new one with the plan of holding onto it for at least 5 years. The car has (I think) started to settle its price to what we can realistically expect to sell/pay for them second hand (I hope you get my babble

)

With demand so strong and supply so poor, that will certainly help too... the market is a bit more favourable to sellers right now I think.

Todd

nike61 · Mar 30th, 2005, 03:09 AM

Todd

I would be interested to know about negotiating with dealers, as we only have Autoclassic in WA, they quoted onroad a new Cooper S Chilli with dual gauges and stripes both front and rear at $49,000

Do they drop anything or are they fixed pricing?

Alternative is to buy from another Dealer, however, the WA may make service support a little difficult.

Nike61

Todd! · Mar 30th, 2005, 03:25 AM

Auto Classic have a very good Monopoly from what I can see. With the Chili pack was supposed to revolutionise the way be brought MINI's, but it has infact stuffed things up I think.

My car was a Nov 03 build... it came with MF steering wheel, 1/2 leather, cruise, CD etc.

The options fitted were a Sunroof and S spokes. I paid $45500 drive away. I had no trade-in. Based on $1600 for H/K Stereo & $2000 for Zenon's I'd still be better off than your situation.

If I was to do it again (possibly so) I would get a stadard MCS with 1/2 Leather and HK - organise my own S spokes ($1500 TOPS with my choice of tyres! - see ebay) or whatever other wheels.

I love my sunroof but even the Nov 03 built clicks and carries on, so I wouldnt waste my time with that again. I would stretch for the Harman/Kardon

BTW - I got quoted $350 for the front stripes fitted from BMW...

If I was you, I would contact Response Graphics in WA (he is on here as alexpalex) and get a quote for your stripe requirements.

I'm almost 100% sure he is cheaper and will do a better job!

Go new... if you can stretch that far, you wont regret it with a full warranty, gleaming scratch free paint, immaculate undercarriage... all you have to do is keep it that way.

Todd

MickyD · Mar 30th, 2005, 03:41 AM

HK is $930, and Xenons are $1200 if I recall rightly, unless they've gone up a lot.

ScottyB · Mar 30th, 2005, 03:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MickyD

HK is $930, and Xenons are $1200 if I recall rightly, unless they've gone up a lot.

Yup - $930 and $1160 as of the '05 model year respectively.

Todd! · Mar 30th, 2005, 03:55 AM

I was showing worst case scenario's... just makes me seem like my idea is much better then

n00b · Mar 30th, 2005, 04:49 AM

Why buy new when you can buy used to save a few dollars? HE HE HE

Babes · Mar 30th, 2005, 07:09 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by nike61

Todd

I would be interested to know about negotiating with dealers, as we only have Autoclassic in WA, they quoted onroad a new Cooper S Chilli with dual gauges and stripes both front and rear at $49,000

Do they drop anything or are they fixed pricing?

Alternative is to buy from another Dealer, however, the WA may make service support a little difficult.

Nike61

Nike61 Auto Classic are fantastic to deal with. If you bought over east they wouldnt have a problem servicing etc for you. Both the sales manager and service guy are in clubMINI so you will be looked after very well. Very little room for negotiation on a new MINI here in WA not because they have the monopoly but more because there isnt much in them, they make their profit in accessories mainly.

Jason

Todd! · Mar 30th, 2005, 07:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by dairyboy

Why buy new when you can buy used to save a few dollars? HE HE HE

This is why I'd go new:

n00b · Mar 30th, 2005, 12:14 PM

Thanks for that Todd

But hey, if I put it on Carsales for $30k, who will really know the full history of the Greendevil

IML337 · Mar 30th, 2005, 12:17 PM

hahaha CAPPED!

you forgot about the dog slobber

n00b · Mar 30th, 2005, 12:20 PM

I did find traces of dog biscuits in the boot floor when I first got it....oh well it's now sorted.

Mar 29th, 2005, 06:24 AM	#1
nike61 Just Do It Join Date: Mar 2005 Local Time: 05:39 AM Posts: 177 Offline	WANTED Cooper S. Western Australia Hi all Guys, just starting to look for a Cooper S, but in Perth, WA there are very few second hand available in the market. Ideally, I want to purchase after 30 June 2005, but will consider anything early. I have viewed the usual sites like Carsales, Carpoint, Autotrader, Motorpoint and majority are on the eastern coast, which is fine, as stamp duty is by far cheaper. There is a 2002 in Melbourne with JCW installed which is of interest, but not necessary, my only really requirements are for 17in Wheels, prefer stripes, ideally would like British Green or Dark Blue, but I want low kms and mint condition only. Happy to purchase from anywhere in Australia for right mini. Let me know or send any photos of any Mini that you know is available. Nike61

Mar 29th, 2005, 06:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	G'day - I see your search continues... I feel that you are not going to find a car second hand that is up to your standards. Maybe you have a look at saving for a little longer or what ever and buying brand new. From memory you said you had time up your sleeve, why not order what you want and then you can be the first person to maintain the car. The JCW in Victoria that you are refering to is a brilliantly maintained car (amongst the best kept from my travels) - the body work is immaculate... dont let abit of dust on a CD player turn you off - In the end it can wipe off. It will be hard to find a true enthusiast that has maintained their car and is selling it. It is that simple. Most of the cars on carpoint or carsales have not been maintained to the standard of most of the owners on mini2... in saying that there are a only a hnadful that go to great efforts to maintain their cars in immaculate condition. Most prefer to drive it rather than hide it in the garage. Im sure that you will be more than welcomed into the WA community - they are a great bunch over there. Go new - maintain it to your high standards, you wont regret it. Todd PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

Mar 29th, 2005, 07:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 07:39 AM Posts: 13,849 Offline	Also, based on anecdotal evidence, I'd probably rule out any cars built before 2004??? How is stamp duty cheaper if you buy interstate. If you register the car in WA, surely you'll be paying stamp duty in WA??? Good luck searching anyway, however, put me down as another recommedning the NEW purchase option. Cheers Liam Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

Mar 29th, 2005, 07:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	Maybe MickyD will sell you his That has been maintained well PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

Mar 30th, 2005, 02:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	The Adelaide car sounds good... but only driven on weekends could been a number of things... there are lots of motorsports on weekends Keep looking anyway. Thinking about it all, if I was to do it again - i would buy a new one with the plan of holding onto it for at least 5 years. The car has (I think) started to settle its price to what we can realistically expect to sell/pay for them second hand (I hope you get my babble ) With demand so strong and supply so poor, that will certainly help too... the market is a bit more favourable to sellers right now I think. Todd PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

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Mar 29th, 2005, 07:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
KGB MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2003 Location: Melbourne Inner Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 801 Offline	hear, hear, true words of a true believer... well put Toddmeister.

Mar 29th, 2005, 11:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
doona ......... Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 2,802 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Red&blackS Maybe MickyD will sell you his That has been maintained well And it comes with one-off custom paint work on the driving lights and intercooler cover!! -Dan

Mar 29th, 2005, 03:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
n00b Twincharge??? My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 2,283 Offline	I am selling mine very well maintained example except, just about every '02 built cars' faults are pretty apparent...lol. Having said that, I've eliminated nearly all of them except the annoying rattles. I blame the suspension being a bit harsh to cause it ha ha ha. (I am 100% serious about selling it, see my post in the for sale section)

Mar 30th, 2005, 02:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
nike61 Just Do It Join Date: Mar 2005 Local Time: 05:39 AM Posts: 177 Offline	Thanks guys, and thansk again Todd. Yep its hard, the one in Geelong is great, but its hard to justify the cost difference to buy new, but then again, at least then I can choose finance or cash, as finance companies are funny about private purchases. Regarding stamp duty, interesting subject, but if you ask WA SD office they of course want you to pay their duty, but I have checked, the only issue if if you buy in WA a car registered elsewhere ie Victoria, then you have to get temp plates and pay WA SD. However, if the car is in Victoria etc, you pay SD as Victoria, then you have 3 months to transfer and only then pay the rego. For info, WA is the most expensive ie say $39000, the SD in WA is about $2600 where in Victoria it is $1500, so I can pay $160 for RACV inspection, $880 for boxed/enclosed transport and still get it to WA for less than the SD in WA. Absurd. I will continue to monitor the site. There is a nice British Green Mini S 2003 with only 2,500 kms on clock in Adelaide, but with non mini dealer [Adelaide Special Vehicles], its in Motorpoint from memory, as ex a directors weekend car, has 17inch rims and been lowered, want $37995 for it which is a good price. I looked at a light blue 2004 mini S with only 8,000 kms but as standard with 16in, in WA, the only one, mint condition and wants $36500. So there are deals around. I agree with Todd, the best around currently is the JCW from Geelong but 2002 model. Im still thinking about it. Cheers

Mar 30th, 2005, 03:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
nike61 Just Do It Join Date: Mar 2005 Local Time: 05:39 AM Posts: 177 Offline	Todd I would be interested to know about negotiating with dealers, as we only have Autoclassic in WA, they quoted onroad a new Cooper S Chilli with dual gauges and stripes both front and rear at $49,000 Do they drop anything or are they fixed pricing? Alternative is to buy from another Dealer, however, the WA may make service support a little difficult. Nike61

Mar 30th, 2005, 03:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	Auto Classic have a very good Monopoly from what I can see. With the Chili pack was supposed to revolutionise the way be brought MINI's, but it has infact stuffed things up I think. My car was a Nov 03 build... it came with MF steering wheel, 1/2 leather, cruise, CD etc. The options fitted were a Sunroof and S spokes. I paid $45500 drive away. I had no trade-in. Based on $1600 for H/K Stereo & $2000 for Zenon's I'd still be better off than your situation. If I was to do it again (possibly so) I would get a stadard MCS with 1/2 Leather and HK - organise my own S spokes ($1500 TOPS with my choice of tyres! - see ebay) or whatever other wheels. I love my sunroof but even the Nov 03 built clicks and carries on, so I wouldnt waste my time with that again. I would stretch for the Harman/Kardon BTW - I got quoted $350 for the front stripes fitted from BMW... If I was you, I would contact Response Graphics in WA (he is on here as alexpalex) and get a quote for your stripe requirements. I'm almost 100% sure he is cheaper and will do a better job! Go new... if you can stretch that far, you wont regret it with a full warranty, gleaming scratch free paint, immaculate undercarriage... all you have to do is keep it that way. Todd PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

Mar 30th, 2005, 03:41 AM	#12 (permalink)
MickyD MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 07:39 AM Posts: 3,628 Offline	HK is $930, and Xenons are $1200 if I recall rightly, unless they've gone up a lot.

Mar 30th, 2005, 03:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 07:39 AM Posts: 192,103 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MickyD HK is $930, and Xenons are $1200 if I recall rightly, unless they've gone up a lot. Yup - $930 and $1160 as of the '05 model year respectively. - Global Moderator - MY BLOG - Global Procrastinator - ... Buying the 8C for its dynamic abilities is like buying a porn film for its plot ...

Mar 30th, 2005, 03:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	I was showing worst case scenario's... just makes me seem like my idea is much better then PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

Mar 30th, 2005, 04:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
n00b Twincharge??? My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 2,283 Offline	Why buy new when you can buy used to save a few dollars? HE HE HE

Mar 30th, 2005, 07:09 AM	#16 (permalink)
Babes Cruising In The Minge My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Perth Local Time: 05:39 AM Posts: 740 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by nike61 Todd I would be interested to know about negotiating with dealers, as we only have Autoclassic in WA, they quoted onroad a new Cooper S Chilli with dual gauges and stripes both front and rear at $49,000 Do they drop anything or are they fixed pricing? Alternative is to buy from another Dealer, however, the WA may make service support a little difficult. Nike61 Nike61 Auto Classic are fantastic to deal with. If you bought over east they wouldnt have a problem servicing etc for you. Both the sales manager and service guy are in clubMINI so you will be looked after very well. Very little room for negotiation on a new MINI here in WA not because they have the monopoly but more because there isnt much in them, they make their profit in accessories mainly. Jason 2003 BRG/W JCW MCS 2002 PS/PS JCW MC 1970 BRG/W MK2 Morris Cooper S

Mar 30th, 2005, 07:30 AM	#17 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by dairyboy Why buy new when you can buy used to save a few dollars? HE HE HE This is why I'd go new: PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

Mar 30th, 2005, 12:14 PM	#18 (permalink)
n00b Twincharge??? My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 2,283 Offline	Thanks for that Todd But hey, if I put it on Carsales for $30k, who will really know the full history of the Greendevil

Mar 30th, 2005, 12:17 PM	#19 (permalink)
IML337 saving the world Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Singapore Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 2,931 Offline	hahaha CAPPED! you forgot about the dog slobber

Mar 30th, 2005, 12:20 PM	#20 (permalink)
n00b Twincharge??? My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 06:39 AM Posts: 2,283 Offline	I did find traces of dog biscuits in the boot floor when I first got it....oh well it's now sorted.

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