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minigolf · May 17th, 2005, 02:35 AM

Sounds the dog's bolllocks I rekcon.

MickyD · May 17th, 2005, 02:50 AM

agreed....
dare I ask how much?

CanberraCooperS · May 17th, 2005, 03:07 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MickyD

agreed....
dare I ask how much?

Indications are that they will be starting at mid 60's
but there are no known figures or options or even colours so its a case of wait and see.
either way its a BMW 6cyl so you cant go wrong.

CanberraCooperS · May 17th, 2005, 03:27 AM

Hmmmm maybee i should track it!!!!
at a 8:35 hmmm look at its company in that lap time area on standard tyres.
heres a compare from nurburgring.de ( official site.)
7:46 - Porsche 996 GT2
7:56 - Porsche 996 Turbo
7:57 - Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo (600 HP, racing suspension)
8:07 - Ferrari 550
8:07 - Porsche 996 GT3
8:09 - Lamborghini Diablo SV
8:09 - Ferrari 360 Modena
8:10 - Chrysler Viper GTS
8:12 - Porsche 993 Turbo (430 HP version)
8:15 - BMW Z8 400 HP
8:17 - Porsche 996 C2
8:18 - Ferrari F355
8:22 - BMW M Coupe 321 HP
8:25 - Audi RS4 375 HP
8:28 - Porsche 993 C2
8:28 - BMW M5 400 HP
8:32 - Porsche Boxster S
8:35 - BMW M3 Coupe
8:37 - Mercedes C32 AMG
8:38 - Honda NSX
8:39 - Honda S2000
8:40 - Chevrolet Corvette
8:42 - Audi S4 265 HP
8:42 - Lotus Exige
8:49 - Jaguar XKR Coupe
8:52 - Mercedes CLK 430

KGB · May 17th, 2005, 03:45 AM

..the only logical step from an MCS..

Had the same idea myself, waiting for some news on priecs and final spec.
Looks an absolute Q-car and a cracker.

n00b · May 17th, 2005, 04:11 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by CanberraCooperS

Indications are that they will be starting at mid 60's
but there are no known figures or options or even colours so its a case of wait and see.
either way its a BMW 6cyl so you cant go wrong.

Bit of a bargain if the final price is around the mid 60's. It's probably a better base to start popping mods too - being a RWD and 6 cyclinder, almost just as nimble and quick as the MCS.

Greendevil · May 17th, 2005, 04:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by CanberraCooperS

Im going to regret the sale of the Mini, but my focuses have changed and the 130i is quicker than a JCW so im not really going backwards at all. Come to think of it... based on the power/torque figures and weight it should be quicker than an STI or EVOIX so i think BMW are being very choi about the claimed 6.2 to 100k. 190kw 300nm torque and get this Laps Nürburgring North Loop in 8m35s ( e36 M3r did 8m38s) this is attributed to its LSD with Electronic Diff lock!!!! ( wooohooo Line Lock city!!!!!)

Wow, very impressive. Imagine if you ditched the runflats, put decent rubber on and lowered it by 30mm! For $60k the 130i should be big success. I also hear they are doing an MPower version as well.. With the forthcoming large E90 M3 being a V8, I see the 1 series as having its spiritual roots in the E30 series which is where BMW have had most of its motorsport success. Good stuff Giles.

minigolf · May 17th, 2005, 05:04 AM

I reckon an M1 will be beyond awesome ... hmm, wonder if it will look like this one.

Todd! · May 17th, 2005, 05:16 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil

I also hear they are doing an MPower version as well.. With the forthcoming large E90 M3 being a V8, I see the 1 series as having its spiritual roots in the E30 series which is where BMW have had most of its motorsport success.

I've been thinking what you have been thinking B2! I love my 2002 and I want to get a M2 (the rumoured name of the new coupe based on the same platform as the 1)

I hear it is going to be priced around $90K... with a naturally aspirated 6 with 250kw and 1300kg!!

Im excited!!

EDIT - Lima, I dont think theyw ill ever use the M1 name in a car like the 1 series. Thats wwhy I think it will be called the M2...

Todd! · May 17th, 2005, 05:25 AM

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Greendevil · May 17th, 2005, 05:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Todd!

I hear it is going to be priced around $90K... with a naturally aspirated 6 with 250kw and 1300kg!!

Im excited!!

This should really set you off then ... how about BMW M2 CSL 265KW and 1200kgs!
A mild factory tune and removal of sound deadening material and carbon fibre bonnet / roof / boot lid / bumpers should do it

Todd! · May 17th, 2005, 05:35 AM

MMMMM2 sounds good (*runs away to stach money in sock drawer til the M2 is announced*)

They are also talking about bringing out a striped out MCS, so I'm keen to see if anything eventuates out of those rumours... mmmm car shopping in the next 6/12 months....

IML337 · May 17th, 2005, 06:21 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by CanberraCooperS

either way... the 120i handles better than a standard MCS anyday.

That's a big call... and one I plan on verifying while I'm shopping in the coming weeks

As for mid $60k? I reckon with a few options you're looking at $80k+ on the road EASILY

Time will tell I guess...

Kaelaria · May 17th, 2005, 06:48 AM

That thing is almost as ugly as the M Coupe. BLECH!

minigolf · May 17th, 2005, 06:57 AM

Yeah, but there are some things that kilowatts and driving enjoyment forgive.

Todd! · May 17th, 2005, 07:02 AM

The design of the 1, like alot of BMWs of the past is very AVANT GARDE and controversial...

Future classic Im saying! The less people that buyt hem, the rarer they are

n00b · May 17th, 2005, 07:24 AM

Tim, try the 120i - it's a bloody surprise. When Murray handed me the key yesterday (MCS getting a new windscreen and overflow bottle) I was skeptical about it but now I don't wanna hand the keys back!

Asked 2 dealers about 130i + Individual colour, they don't wanna talk to me

As for the 130i price, let's look at the old 325ti compact, they were $75k so I think the 130i will be somewhere around there as well...plus goodies. Even heard a rumour from a salesperson that there's gonna be a 2 door then a convertible. Beemer knows where the money is

Todd! · May 17th, 2005, 08:15 AM

I think that is the good part about htem Evan, wait for the 130... it is a pparantly a ball breaker.

I thought that they had already released the 130 in Europe? I thought there was even one at the Melbourne Motorshow?

I was talking to a BMW authority who said they were going to try to run them at this years Dutton Rally. You said they are aofficially released at Geneva though yeah?

IML337 · May 17th, 2005, 08:29 AM

Have spent time in a 325i and they were a bit of a wolf in sheeps clothing too, but given their pricing, there's no way a 130 will be less than $75k on the road...

robbo mcs · May 17th, 2005, 09:30 AM

Hi,

I think the 130 looks like a great car

However, I reckon the poverty spec will be $70k+ on the road, and a typically specced car will be $80k+

An M version would be interesting

I'd love to see a really lightweight version (ie like the M3 CSL) stripped of luxury/heavy items eg electric seats, stereo, aircon, with lots of lightweight components like wheels and CF roof etc

That would be getting back to the original philosophy of the M3. If they could get it to 1150kg with the M3 spec engine at 255kw that would be something worth buying

Cheers

Robbo

May 17th, 2005, 02:35 AM	#41
minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 13,849 Offline	Sounds the dog's bolllocks I rekcon. Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

May 17th, 2005, 04:55 AM	#47 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 298 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CanberraCooperS Im going to regret the sale of the Mini, but my focuses have changed and the 130i is quicker than a JCW so im not really going backwards at all. Come to think of it... based on the power/torque figures and weight it should be quicker than an STI or EVOIX so i think BMW are being very choi about the claimed 6.2 to 100k. 190kw 300nm torque and get this Laps Nürburgring North Loop in 8m35s ( e36 M3r did 8m38s) this is attributed to its LSD with Electronic Diff lock!!!! ( wooohooo Line Lock city!!!!!) Wow, very impressive. Imagine if you ditched the runflats, put decent rubber on and lowered it by 30mm! For $60k the 130i should be big success. I also hear they are doing an MPower version as well.. With the forthcoming large E90 M3 being a V8, I see the 1 series as having its spiritual roots in the E30 series which is where BMW have had most of its motorsport success. Good stuff Giles. BMW E36 M3R Alpine White - Engine : 6 cylinder; DOHC 24 valve Capacity : 2990cc Power : 243KW @ 7000 rpm Torque : 323NM @ 3900rpm Produced : Jan - May 1995 How many :15 ONLY

May 17th, 2005, 05:04 AM	#48 (permalink)
minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 13,849 Offline	I reckon an M1 will be beyond awesome ... hmm, wonder if it will look like this one. Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

May 17th, 2005, 05:16 AM	#49 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil I also hear they are doing an MPower version as well.. With the forthcoming large E90 M3 being a V8, I see the 1 series as having its spiritual roots in the E30 series which is where BMW have had most of its motorsport success. I've been thinking what you have been thinking B2! I love my 2002 and I want to get a M2 (the rumoured name of the new coupe based on the same platform as the 1) I hear it is going to be priced around $90K... with a naturally aspirated 6 with 250kw and 1300kg!! Im excited!! EDIT - Lima, I dont think theyw ill ever use the M1 name in a car like the 1 series. Thats wwhy I think it will be called the M2... PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

May 17th, 2005, 05:25 AM	#50 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	+ + = PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

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May 17th, 2005, 02:50 AM	#42 (permalink)
MickyD MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 3,628 Offline	agreed.... dare I ask how much?

May 17th, 2005, 03:07 AM	#43 (permalink)
CanberraCooperS Gone Old School Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canberra Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 746 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MickyD agreed.... dare I ask how much? Indications are that they will be starting at mid 60's but there are no known figures or options or even colours so its a case of wait and see. either way its a BMW 6cyl so you cant go wrong.

May 17th, 2005, 03:27 AM	#44 (permalink)
CanberraCooperS Gone Old School Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canberra Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 746 Offline	Hmmmm maybee i should track it!!!! at a 8:35 hmmm look at its company in that lap time area on standard tyres. heres a compare from nurburgring.de ( official site.) 7:46 - Porsche 996 GT2 7:56 - Porsche 996 Turbo 7:57 - Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo (600 HP, racing suspension) 8:07 - Ferrari 550 8:07 - Porsche 996 GT3 8:09 - Lamborghini Diablo SV 8:09 - Ferrari 360 Modena 8:10 - Chrysler Viper GTS 8:12 - Porsche 993 Turbo (430 HP version) 8:15 - BMW Z8 400 HP 8:17 - Porsche 996 C2 8:18 - Ferrari F355 8:22 - BMW M Coupe 321 HP 8:25 - Audi RS4 375 HP 8:28 - Porsche 993 C2 8:28 - BMW M5 400 HP 8:32 - Porsche Boxster S 8:35 - BMW M3 Coupe 8:37 - Mercedes C32 AMG 8:38 - Honda NSX 8:39 - Honda S2000 8:40 - Chevrolet Corvette 8:42 - Audi S4 265 HP 8:42 - Lotus Exige 8:49 - Jaguar XKR Coupe 8:52 - Mercedes CLK 430

May 17th, 2005, 03:45 AM	#45 (permalink)
KGB MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2003 Location: Melbourne Inner Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 801 Offline	..the only logical step from an MCS.. Had the same idea myself, waiting for some news on priecs and final spec. Looks an absolute Q-car and a cracker.

May 17th, 2005, 04:11 AM	#46 (permalink)
n00b Twincharge??? My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 2,283 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CanberraCooperS Indications are that they will be starting at mid 60's but there are no known figures or options or even colours so its a case of wait and see. either way its a BMW 6cyl so you cant go wrong. Bit of a bargain if the final price is around the mid 60's. It's probably a better base to start popping mods too - being a RWD and 6 cyclinder, almost just as nimble and quick as the MCS.

May 17th, 2005, 05:30 AM	#51 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 298 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Todd! I hear it is going to be priced around $90K... with a naturally aspirated 6 with 250kw and 1300kg!! Im excited!! This should really set you off then ... how about BMW M2 CSL 265KW and 1200kgs! A mild factory tune and removal of sound deadening material and carbon fibre bonnet / roof / boot lid / bumpers should do it BMW E36 M3R Alpine White - Engine : 6 cylinder; DOHC 24 valve Capacity : 2990cc Power : 243KW @ 7000 rpm Torque : 323NM @ 3900rpm Produced : Jan - May 1995 How many :15 ONLY

May 17th, 2005, 05:35 AM	#52 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	MMMMM2 sounds good (runs away to stach money in sock drawer til the M2 is announced) They are also talking about bringing out a striped out MCS, so I'm keen to see if anything eventuates out of those rumours... mmmm car shopping in the next 6/12 months.... PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

May 17th, 2005, 06:21 AM	#53 (permalink)
IML337 saving the world Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Singapore Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 2,931 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CanberraCooperS either way... the 120i handles better than a standard MCS anyday. That's a big call... and one I plan on verifying while I'm shopping in the coming weeks As for mid $60k? I reckon with a few options you're looking at $80k+ on the road EASILY Time will tell I guess...

May 17th, 2005, 06:48 AM	#54 (permalink)
Kaelaria MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oldsmar, FL Local Time: 04:43 PM Posts: 256 Offline	That thing is almost as ugly as the M Coupe. BLECH!

May 17th, 2005, 06:57 AM	#55 (permalink)
minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 13,849 Offline	Yeah, but there are some things that kilowatts and driving enjoyment forgive. Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

May 17th, 2005, 07:02 AM	#56 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	The design of the 1, like alot of BMWs of the past is very AVANT GARDE and controversial... Future classic Im saying! The less people that buyt hem, the rarer they are PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

May 17th, 2005, 07:24 AM	#57 (permalink)
n00b Twincharge??? My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 2,283 Offline	Tim, try the 120i - it's a bloody surprise. When Murray handed me the key yesterday (MCS getting a new windscreen and overflow bottle) I was skeptical about it but now I don't wanna hand the keys back! Asked 2 dealers about 130i + Individual colour, they don't wanna talk to me As for the 130i price, let's look at the old 325ti compact, they were $75k so I think the 130i will be somewhere around there as well...plus goodies. Even heard a rumour from a salesperson that there's gonna be a 2 door then a convertible. Beemer knows where the money is

May 17th, 2005, 08:15 AM	#58 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	I think that is the good part about htem Evan, wait for the 130... it is a pparantly a ball breaker. I thought that they had already released the 130 in Europe? I thought there was even one at the Melbourne Motorshow? I was talking to a BMW authority who said they were going to try to run them at this years Dutton Rally. You said they are aofficially released at Geneva though yeah? PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

May 17th, 2005, 08:29 AM	#59 (permalink)
IML337 saving the world Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Singapore Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 2,931 Offline	Have spent time in a 325i and they were a bit of a wolf in sheeps clothing too, but given their pricing, there's no way a 130 will be less than $75k on the road...

May 17th, 2005, 09:30 AM	#60 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 2,620 Offline	Hi, I think the 130 looks like a great car However, I reckon the poverty spec will be $70k+ on the road, and a typically specced car will be $80k+ An M version would be interesting I'd love to see a really lightweight version (ie like the M3 CSL) stripped of luxury/heavy items eg electric seats, stereo, aircon, with lots of lightweight components like wheels and CF roof etc That would be getting back to the original philosophy of the M3. If they could get it to 1150kg with the M3 spec engine at 255kw that would be something worth buying Cheers Robbo Mods: GO MADDIE and SPARKY!

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