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Tit · May 18th, 2005, 12:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Todd!

As far as I know in Victoria, you have to pass a full roadworthy to get a defect lifted off a vehicle... so they have been defected for the above, but the rest will appear and have to be changed to get the RWC to lift the defect...

Although it seemed reasonable it will get picked up if you use a ligitimate Roadworthy tester (they are private organisations in Vic - mechanics etc.) if they are in any way dodgy you ca get around it.

Since then, the car's got a new engineer's certificate and the defect lifted. I'm not sure if that also involves passing a normal roadworthy, or if they just check the things on the defect notice - as far as I know, the car is on the road legally now.

It's not bezerk low, or super loud...it's a bit of sleeper...mind you....I'll ask him next time I speak to him...

CanberraCooperS · May 18th, 2005, 12:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Todd!

Sorry to go off topic... so the 130 will have similar options to the 330? That will be awesome!

Well mechanically it will be the same as the 330 in the new 3 series. (but 6speed manual only.) So it needs all the gadgetry that goes with that running gear. other than that im guessing it will be like a 330 is to a 320... quite different.

my understanding is also that the 130 will be build in one of the new German Factories and not in South Africa

Tit · May 18th, 2005, 12:46 AM

Everything I've heard about the 1 series has been good...

The styling eludes me a bit though...

I saw a pic of some of the future models including a sedan shape. It seems interesting that the bmw range is getting (physically) bigger, including the 3 series range...because otherwise wouldn't it would seem that the 1 would be creeping into the 3 series market?

cab:

3 door hatch:

I reckon this (potential) coupe looks pretty good though - should put the 3.0l in that!:

I think these images have been graphically re-touched...but they are a good 'teaser'

enzothemaddog · May 18th, 2005, 01:02 AM

Im looking forward to seeing the new Audi RS3 Sportsback estate

(3.2L V6 AWD TT DSG + Plenty of space for the dogs

) Add a MTM chip and exhaust, looking at 400hp

see here: http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/N...522144,00.html

Todd! · May 18th, 2005, 01:55 AM

Niiiicccccckkkkkkk! That looks the S H I T !

I WANT ONE! In silver to go next to my 2002

n00b · May 18th, 2005, 02:56 AM

That 2 door hatch just looks like the M Coupe.....a bit out of shape but the 1-coupe, just gotta have it

and make sure it's a

///M

CanberraCooperS · May 18th, 2005, 03:00 AM

hmmm looks like alot of smoke and mirrors in those pics.. ( far to much dreaming)
my understanding from what BMW have said is that the 1 series will only ever be a 5 door.
Im guessing the yet to be designed and tested 2 series may have the M spec and the coupe/softtop etc.
I need a wagon.. so, meh i wont be complaining.

n00b · May 18th, 2005, 05:08 AM

Not necessarily smoke in the mirror..one of the salesperson I haven't pi**ed off (yet) show me a memo posted from BMW Aust there will be 2 door and convertible variants release sometime in 2007. Obviously name and price is a big unknown right now. They suggested I should hold off the purchase till then....ok maybe they're right.

They're pretty stressed over the E90 so there's not much attention left for the 1 series right now.

KGB · May 18th, 2005, 05:50 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs

Hi,

I think the 130 looks like a great car

However, I reckon the poverty spec will be $70k+ on the road, and a typically specced car will be $80k+

Did the sums for the wife on a 120i, auto and pretty well fully loaded (no sat nav) it worked to $60k. I'd imagine that the same car as a 130i would be plus about +15-18K from list on a 120i. Although in that additional amount you'd be getting a few things like leather and bigger wheels which would be part of the 130i package. I'd reckon a loaded 130i at about
$70-75k before the arm wrestle.

Dont forget what an easy and big seller the old 325Ti was, dealers had them forever and most became executive driven or demos....BMW will have learnt their lesson on pricing a 'small' niche car.

Robbo, loser buys lunch...

Cheers,
Mark

minigolf · May 18th, 2005, 10:23 AM

http://www.germancarfans.com/photos....002/bmw/1.html

Todd! · May 18th, 2005, 10:32 AM

Hartge's one is better

The power of a Hartge tuned M5 in the body of a 120i

Im not a big fan of the rims though...

CanberraCooperS · May 18th, 2005, 11:41 AM

Ok after a bit of net surfing and a look at the specs of the R6 3lt engine its easily the most turbo chargeable engine i have seen. ( with infinately variable timinig and valvetronic) Plus there is a big rumor that the new 3 series will have a 335 being a 330 with the turbo R6 engine... as there will be a huge gape between the performance of the new M and the 330. ( BMW doesnt seem to like having big performance gaps in their ranges)

http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/...tid=40049&pg=1
Not sure how far off the mark they are... but sounds cool to me...

Can you imagine a M2 being Turbo3lt 6 woooohooooo.. how bad would that be?????

Todd! · May 18th, 2005, 11:46 AM

Oh yeah... I'll do mine up with this style of stripes down the side

CanberraCooperS · May 18th, 2005, 11:48 AM

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102389

Todd! · May 18th, 2005, 11:58 AM

I thought the M version of the X5 was the 4.Xis... the reason why they didnt call it an M X5 is because there is a little Mazda by that name and they didnt want to confuse the Yanks.

No M1, but BMW are talking of naming their coupés even numbers, so the m2 is most likely...

They will have to expend the 1 serries platform as they have spent so much money tooling up for it.

CanberraCooperS · May 18th, 2005, 12:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Todd!

I thought the M version of the X5 was the 4.Xis... the reason why they didnt call it an M X5 is because there is a little Mazda by that name and they didnt want to confuse the Yanks.

No M1, but BMW are talking of naming their coupés even numbers, so the m2 is most likely...

They will have to expend the 1 serries platform as they have spent so much money tooling up for it.

Its all a waiting game now Todd..

Todd! · May 18th, 2005, 12:09 PM

I've got plenty of time on my hands in case you didnt realise

IML337 · May 18th, 2005, 12:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Todd!

I've got plenty of time on my hands in case you didnt realise

go sort out my wheels then

Todd! · May 18th, 2005, 12:12 PM

yeah, doing it

minigolf · May 18th, 2005, 12:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Todd!

I thought the M version of the X5 was the 4.Xis... the reason why they didnt call it an M X5 is because there is a little Mazda by that name and they didnt want to confuse the Yanks.

Well, see now I'm confused, aren't they badged as Mazda Miatas in the States.

May 18th, 2005, 01:55 AM	#85 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	Niiiicccccckkkkkkk! That looks the S H I T ! I WANT ONE! In silver to go next to my 2002 PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

May 18th, 2005, 10:23 AM	#90 (permalink)
minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 13,849 Offline	http://www.germancarfans.com/photos....002/bmw/1.html Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

May 18th, 2005, 10:32 AM	#91 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	Hartge's one is better The power of a Hartge tuned M5 in the body of a 120i Im not a big fan of the rims though... PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

May 18th, 2005, 11:41 AM	#92 (permalink)
CanberraCooperS Gone Old School Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canberra Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 746 Offline	Going out on a limb here.... this is my bet on what the M2 will have under the bonnet Ok after a bit of net surfing and a look at the specs of the R6 3lt engine its easily the most turbo chargeable engine i have seen. ( with infinately variable timinig and valvetronic) Plus there is a big rumor that the new 3 series will have a 335 being a 330 with the turbo R6 engine... as there will be a huge gape between the performance of the new M and the 330. ( BMW doesnt seem to like having big performance gaps in their ranges) http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/...tid=40049&pg=1 Not sure how far off the mark they are... but sounds cool to me... Can you imagine a M2 being Turbo3lt 6 woooohooooo.. how bad would that be?????

May 18th, 2005, 11:46 AM	#93 (permalink)
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May 18th, 2005, 12:37 AM	#81
Tit Still kickin' along Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 3,087 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Todd! As far as I know in Victoria, you have to pass a full roadworthy to get a defect lifted off a vehicle... so they have been defected for the above, but the rest will appear and have to be changed to get the RWC to lift the defect... Although it seemed reasonable it will get picked up if you use a ligitimate Roadworthy tester (they are private organisations in Vic - mechanics etc.) if they are in any way dodgy you ca get around it. Since then, the car's got a new engineer's certificate and the defect lifted. I'm not sure if that also involves passing a normal roadworthy, or if they just check the things on the defect notice - as far as I know, the car is on the road legally now. It's not bezerk low, or super loud...it's a bit of sleeper...mind you....I'll ask him next time I speak to him...

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May 18th, 2005, 12:43 AM	#82 (permalink)
CanberraCooperS Gone Old School Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canberra Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 746 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Todd! Sorry to go off topic... so the 130 will have similar options to the 330? That will be awesome! Well mechanically it will be the same as the 330 in the new 3 series. (but 6speed manual only.) So it needs all the gadgetry that goes with that running gear. other than that im guessing it will be like a 330 is to a 320... quite different. my understanding is also that the 130 will be build in one of the new German Factories and not in South Africa

May 18th, 2005, 12:46 AM	#83 (permalink)
Tit Still kickin' along Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 3,087 Offline	Everything I've heard about the 1 series has been good... The styling eludes me a bit though... I saw a pic of some of the future models including a sedan shape. It seems interesting that the bmw range is getting (physically) bigger, including the 3 series range...because otherwise wouldn't it would seem that the 1 would be creeping into the 3 series market? cab: 3 door hatch: I reckon this (potential) coupe looks pretty good though - should put the 3.0l in that!: I think these images have been graphically re-touched...but they are a good 'teaser'

May 18th, 2005, 01:02 AM	#84 (permalink)
enzothemaddog Un-Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Train Station Toilet Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 2,067 Offline	Im looking forward to seeing the new Audi RS3 Sportsback estate (3.2L V6 AWD TT DSG + Plenty of space for the dogs ) Add a MTM chip and exhaust, looking at 400hp see here: http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/N...522144,00.html

May 18th, 2005, 02:56 AM	#86 (permalink)
n00b Twincharge??? My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 2,283 Offline	That 2 door hatch just looks like the M Coupe.....a bit out of shape but the 1-coupe, just gotta have it and make sure it's a ///M

May 18th, 2005, 03:00 AM	#87 (permalink)
CanberraCooperS Gone Old School Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canberra Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 746 Offline	hmmm looks like alot of smoke and mirrors in those pics.. ( far to much dreaming) my understanding from what BMW have said is that the 1 series will only ever be a 5 door. Im guessing the yet to be designed and tested 2 series may have the M spec and the coupe/softtop etc. I need a wagon.. so, meh i wont be complaining.

May 18th, 2005, 05:08 AM	#88 (permalink)
n00b Twincharge??? My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 2,283 Offline	Not necessarily smoke in the mirror..one of the salesperson I haven't pi**ed off (yet) show me a memo posted from BMW Aust there will be 2 door and convertible variants release sometime in 2007. Obviously name and price is a big unknown right now. They suggested I should hold off the purchase till then....ok maybe they're right. They're pretty stressed over the E90 so there's not much attention left for the 1 series right now.

May 18th, 2005, 05:50 AM	#89 (permalink)
KGB MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2003 Location: Melbourne Inner Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 801 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs Hi, I think the 130 looks like a great car However, I reckon the poverty spec will be $70k+ on the road, and a typically specced car will be $80k+ Did the sums for the wife on a 120i, auto and pretty well fully loaded (no sat nav) it worked to $60k. I'd imagine that the same car as a 130i would be plus about +15-18K from list on a 120i. Although in that additional amount you'd be getting a few things like leather and bigger wheels which would be part of the 130i package. I'd reckon a loaded 130i at about $70-75k before the arm wrestle. Dont forget what an easy and big seller the old 325Ti was, dealers had them forever and most became executive driven or demos....BMW will have learnt their lesson on pricing a 'small' niche car. Robbo, loser buys lunch... Cheers, Mark

May 18th, 2005, 11:48 AM	#94 (permalink)
CanberraCooperS Gone Old School Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canberra Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 746 Offline	http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102389

May 18th, 2005, 11:58 AM	#95 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	I thought the M version of the X5 was the 4.Xis... the reason why they didnt call it an M X5 is because there is a little Mazda by that name and they didnt want to confuse the Yanks. No M1, but BMW are talking of naming their coupés even numbers, so the m2 is most likely... They will have to expend the 1 serries platform as they have spent so much money tooling up for it. PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

May 18th, 2005, 12:05 PM	#96 (permalink)
CanberraCooperS Gone Old School Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canberra Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 746 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Todd! I thought the M version of the X5 was the 4.Xis... the reason why they didnt call it an M X5 is because there is a little Mazda by that name and they didnt want to confuse the Yanks. No M1, but BMW are talking of naming their coupés even numbers, so the m2 is most likely... They will have to expend the 1 serries platform as they have spent so much money tooling up for it. Its all a waiting game now Todd..

May 18th, 2005, 12:09 PM	#97 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	I've got plenty of time on my hands in case you didnt realise PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

May 18th, 2005, 12:11 PM	#98 (permalink)
IML337 saving the world Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Singapore Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 2,931 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Todd! I've got plenty of time on my hands in case you didnt realise go sort out my wheels then

May 18th, 2005, 12:12 PM	#99 (permalink)
Todd! Boy who made the wolf cry Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Geelong, Vic, Aus Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 10,450 Offline	yeah, doing it PROJECT POLARIS - Die Wiedergeburt eines kultautos

May 18th, 2005, 12:16 PM	#100 (permalink)
minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 07:43 AM Posts: 13,849 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Todd! I thought the M version of the X5 was the 4.Xis... the reason why they didnt call it an M X5 is because there is a little Mazda by that name and they didnt want to confuse the Yanks. Well, see now I'm confused, aren't they badged as Mazda Miatas in the States. Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

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