[enzothemaddog]

Hi, just quickly. Does anyone have a Peake diagnostic tool or any other kind of fault code reader that I could borrow?
Need it as my EML light has come on causing limp mode. Developed after some serious wiring. Need to try and figure were the problem came from first.

Am going to order one, but needed it rather quickly!......anyone?

[Todd!]

hmmm, Nick... that dont sound too good...

[enzothemaddog]

Quote: Originally Posted by Todd!

hmmm, Nick... that dont sound too good...

It should be Ok, I picked up my car last night only to have it jump into limp mode. Luckily I made it to storage shed just up the road.
There was lots of sensors tapped into etc so it could be just the ECU sorting itself out or a unchecked loose connection.
Dont want to get too paranoid just yet, but thought checking the codes would be the first/ easiest thing to do. Going back on Sunday to try a few tricks ive picked up but after that.....


oh well, its not my fault and they're insured but still

have to say the limp mode took me by surprise, put foot the floor expecting hell to break loose, ended up feeling like It was being pushed down the road by a few people.

[AndrewH]

I've got one but unfortunately the OBD II socket has been disabled in Aussie spec cars as the OBD II spec doesn't become standard here until 1 Jan next year (any new model released since 1 Jan this year had to comply though but existing models don't until Jan next year). Sorry. I was quite ****ed to find out that it was disabled and yet my Mum's Honda CRV and my Dad's Holden Jackeroo both have it enabled

[Josh and Ali]

Is there any way to produce fault codes without a OBDII tool.

for eg, i have a subie that all you have to do is connect 2 plugs under the dash to make the CEL flash the fault code....,

not very helpful i know

[Josh and Ali]

Is this something simliar to what you need to do a home diagnose?

http://www.auterraweb.com/

[AndrewH]

Quote: Originally Posted by Josh and Ali

Is there any way to produce fault codes without a OBDII tool.

for eg, i have a subie that all you have to do is connect 2 plugs under the dash to make the CEL flash the fault code....,

not very helpful i know

Not sure why you'd want to produce them but a simple way would be to pull off one of the spark plug leads and run the engine - you'll get a fault code pretty quickly doing that

Quote: Originally Posted by Josh and Ali

Is this something simliar to what you need to do a home diagnose?

http://www.auterraweb.com/

This is basically what I've got (but a different brand) and I can plug it into my PDA or laptop. But the problem remains that the OBD II ports in Aus spec Mini's (at least up until mine was produced 03/03 and most likely until Jan 06) have been disabled so you can't get fault codes, or any other OBD II info, from it, you need a BMW diagnostics computer.

[AndrewH]

This is the crowd who I got mine through

http://www.autoenginuity.com/

Josh and/or Ali , re read your post and now get what you mean You also need to know what the code is too. They can be different between manufacturers

[Josh and Ali]

Quote: Originally Posted by AndrewH

Not sure why you'd want to produce them but a simple way would be to pull off one of the spark plug leads and run the engine - you'll get a fault code pretty quickly doing that
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what i meant was, if you get a fault and the check engine light, or EML comes on, in my case i am able to get a readout of what the code is, via getting the light to flash a certain number of times to represent what error has been logged......but moving right along, caus ei have another thought

[Josh and Ali]

i could still be way off here, but i read there is a way to find out what erorr has been flagged by the computer thus setting off the EML

Here are the instrucitons i stole below

The information displays in place of your mileometer, so you DO NOT have to have the MINI OBC/Trip Computer option to see this.

A complete list of functions is below, this example is how to get into the menu number '7'.

With the key in the ignition, but in the off position, press and hold down the odometer reset button, while holding the button down, switch the key in the ignition to position 1.

The screen will say 'Test' and a number.

Scroll through, (pressing reset button) through to test 19 and wait a moment.

Wait and the message will say "log i-off" then "log i-on" and back to "log i-off" again. When "log i-off" appears, press again. You are now in the system. (Woooo)

You can (if you wish) start the ignition any time from now.

Scroll through to test 7.0 (or whichever from the list below) and wait a moment, after a pause you will enter the test 7.* range of information.

You can scroll through now (7.1,7.2,7.3 etc.) using the reset button.

You can exit each menu by pressing, holding for a few seconds, then releasing the reset button.

To leave the system scroll to 19 and leave it for a few moments.
Switching off the ignition also exits the system.
Test:

1.0 Chassis number
1.1 Kilometer count
1.2 Parts number
1.3 Coding-, Diagnostic- and Bus-index
1.4 Production Date (Calender week/year)
1.5 Hard- and Software status
1.6 Injectorstatus, Cylinder count, Engine factor.

2.0 Combisystem Test

3.0 Service intervall counter

4.0 Actual fuel consumption in l/100km. eg.0154 = 15,4 liters/100kms.
4.1 Consumption in liters/100kms.

5.0 Distance consumption in l/100kms.
5.1 Actual rest distance with available fuel in Kms.

6.0 Actual amount of fuel in tank. eg. 123321 =12,3liters left 32,1 liters right
6.1 Total amount of fuel in tank.
6.2 Show value of Fuel guage. 1= both senders OK, 2= sender failure, 3=ti signal unplausible (no reading)

7.0 Actual coolant temp.
7.1 Actual outside temp.
7.2 Actual engine revs.
7.3 Actual speed

8.0 Hexadecimal readings of menu 7.0 to 7.3

9.0 Actual on board voltage (Battery)

10.0 Land codes

11.0 Unit codes

12.0 No funktion

13.0 Gong test

14.0 - 14.4 On board diagnostic codes. eg 000000 = no failures

15.0 - 18.0 No funktion

19.0 On/Off for Test menu.

20.0 Correction factor for Fuel consumption
Formula for correction:
Shown consumption x 1000 / user defined consumption
Push the trip reset button to begin the correction. Numbers count up from 0-9, when correct number shows push trip reset button.

20.1 Sets 10ths. for consumption factor
20.2 Sets 100ths. and 1000ths. for consumption factor
20.3 Saves the new consumption factor and shows new value

21.0 Software reset. (Same as disconnecting battery)

Notes:

I have not been able to get speed into MPH, if you can update me with how to do this (if it's possible), then feel free to do so.

Your MINI's computer may give more or less information than stated above.




I guess if you get that far that you can get the fault number a search on mini2 might let you know where to start looking for problems......if i am way off feel free to flame me

Josh

[AndrewH]

Quote: Originally Posted by Josh and Ali

I guess if you get that far that you can get the fault number a search on mini2 might let you know where to start looking for problems......if i am way off feel free to flame me

Josh

No flaming, you've got enough of that on your car already.

What you've suggested could be worth a try As far as I'm aware though, the codes listed in the test function are numerical where as the ODB II ones are alpha-numerical (and I'm pretty sure the numbers are different), so while it would be easy to ask someone to look up the alpha numerical ones, the numerical ones may be a bit more difficult to find. Anyway, worth a try though

[enzothemaddog]

Thanks guys, I'll give that OBC thingy a go to see if anything pops up. It could be within those parameters I was looking for.

On another note, I should have specified the OBD2 reader. Im pretty sure at the moment the only aftermarket one you can buy is made be Peake Research. I'll order one if the above info cant help me (I should probably order one anyway...). This tool works specifically for Minis and includes error code information. i.e What the problem is.

heres what I was after: http://www.peakeresearch.com/emx.htm
Thanks again

Nick

[AndrewH]

Quote: Originally Posted by enzothemaddog

Thanks guys, I'll give that OBC thingy a go to see if anything pops up. It could be within those parameters I was looking for.

On another note, I should have specified the OBD2 reader. Im pretty sure at the moment the only aftermarket one you can buy is made be Peake Research. I'll order one if the above info cant help me (I should probably order one anyway...). This tool works specifically for Minis and includes error code information. i.e What the problem is.

heres what I was after: http://www.peakeresearch.com/emx.htm
Thanks again

Nick

Nick, before you buy it, make sure you ask if it is based on OBDII standards. If it is, there is no point buying it as it won't work on an Aussie Spec Mini - All US cars, including Mini's sold in the US, have had to comply with OBD II since 1996 but it's disabled on Mini's sold here. If it utilises BMW's own proprietary interface (which is part of the OBD II port but uses different pins), then that's another matter.

[minigolf]

Oracle, Oracle, Oracle.

Josh, hop in you MINI, go out on your local bit freeway and nudge the double ton, then put her in 1st ... that should give you a fault code I reckon!

[Tit]

SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

BANG!

[Baker]

There's got to be a way to enable the OBDII port.. I wonder if its in the ECU, and its something that can be unlocked???

[enzothemaddog]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baker

There's got to be a way to enable the OBDII port.. I wonder if its in the ECU, and its something that can be unlocked with ???

can only alter the fuel maps. I'll post reports when I find out more info

[Baker]

He can do more than that - he can raise rev limits, and he's also removed the "auto-rev" (if requested) so that as soon as your foot leaves the pedal the compression braking starts immediately

[n00b]

That's pretty much the fuel map as I understand it....

[enzothemaddog]

Quote: Originally Posted by dairyboy

That's pretty much the fuel map as I understand it....

ahh, I concur.