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Redwytch · Mar 27th, 2006, 08:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Strangehate

It is actually between two mini's. The other has the a couple of more features (upgraded sound system) but 17k kms. So right now it is coming down to who offers the better price.

If the upgraded sound system is H/K then I can heartily recommend it!!

I have it in my 05 EB/B MC and it is awesome!!

17K kms is actually lower mileage than my 05 MC, so its not a massive amount, but sure does make the choosing tht much harder! Good luck making your mind up!

RS3TURN · Mar 27th, 2006, 08:57 PM

Just to add to the confusion.

If I could do it again, I would get a bare bones S. I would not get the climate control, or the H/K sound system.

Climate control overcompensates, and is quite annoying compared to other cars I have/had. The H/K is okay, but I would love to install an aftermarket deck and can't do so with the H/K.

Ferroequine · Mar 27th, 2006, 09:07 PM

FWIW, I'm quite happy with my "regular" CD Boost.

Lots of debate on the merits of the H/K system out there....

Strangehate · Mar 27th, 2006, 09:18 PM

Well the other mini, the one with the extras, is cheaper than the Calgary one mentioned at the start of this thread.

RS3TURN · Mar 27th, 2006, 09:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Strangehate

Well the other mini, the one with the extras, is cheaper than the Calgary one mentioned at the start of this thread.

If price is more or less the same, and you can live without the options. Go for the one with lower kms. IMO the lower mileage is worth more than the options.

Are they both demos though??

Strangehate · Mar 27th, 2006, 10:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RS3TURN

If price is more or less the same, and you can live without the options. Go for the one with lower kms. IMO the lower mileage is worth more than the options.

Are they both demos though??

The Calgary one is a demo and the other one is a former lease. The good thing about the leased one is that it is a certified used compared to the Calgary one which is not.

beken · Mar 27th, 2006, 10:54 PM

At 28000, you're getting into range for a very base model of a Cooper S. Because the MINI comes pretty well equipped already, personnlly, I would forgo NAV, Premium Pkg and a slew of other expensive options. Even the Cooper, I would recommend a very basic Cooper and if your wallet is not that big, I would even get the Cooper Classic. A comparatively equipped brand new Cooper classic is about $2000 less than a fully loaded Mazda 3GT. The Cooper is better equipped with ASC+T, an extra set of airbags, drive-by-wire throttle. So the question turns into....should you buy a well appointed slightly used MINI Cooper for 28K, or should you just get a brand new, less well appointed MINI Cooper for a bit less? Or if you can stomach a few thou more and up it to a brand new base model Cooper S? Too bad there aren't that many used Cooper S' out there for comparison purposes.

SYZMTRS · Mar 27th, 2006, 11:08 PM

The Cooper we have for sale is not a DEMO - it was owned by an employee who works for MINI Canada.
If nothing else - I am enjoying the debate.

GO MINI GO

RS3TURN · Mar 27th, 2006, 11:30 PM

If I could do it again, I would either buy a base cooperS, or a cooper.

I enjoy (and hate) driving both models just as much. The things that I like and hate are the same on both models. So many things about this car that annoy me, but I still enjoy driving it...

IMO the extras aren't worth it.

I think I have said this in every thread like this. Someone buy my cooperS. haha.
Fully loaded except nav.

heli_guy · Mar 27th, 2006, 11:34 PM

Well as I just went through this a few months ago, I will add a couple of tidbits to help muddy the waters. So here are MY opinions:

Premium Package - necessary option for me. Has the wonderful panaroof and cruise control, to me were essential. Some don't like the pana roof, I sure do.

That's it for necessary. For me, the classic doesn't have the pana roof and cruise control, which were deal breakers for me. If you don't want cruise or the pana roof, then go classic and get new. Otherwise get the 5800km ones. Mine was actually a employee vehicle too, and so far so good. It is a good way to get a Mini for a weeeee bit less.

Personally, for me, the S does not meet the fuel requirements I wanted, but it should would be fun to drive!

Whatever you get, once you get it, you will like it! Hey Sean, can I get a referral?

beken · Mar 28th, 2006, 06:18 PM

Come to think of it, if fun to drive was your main criteria, I found the Cooper to be more involving a drive than the S. I have an S because where I live, my commute involves going over lots of hills and the added power was a requirement. But I found the Cooper engine to be more willing to rev. I also like the lower hood design (without the scoop) better on the Cooper. It just looks cleaner.

This is not to say I am not absolutely happy with my MCS. It just depends on your requirements.

MINNOW · Mar 28th, 2006, 07:37 PM

I have been quite happy with my Cooper Classic - if you can live without cruise control, sunroof, and other options that simply aren't available on the Classic, I give it a hearty recommendation.
Although the car does not include the Xenon low beams I have never found the lighting to be lacking.
The looks are the same as any Cooper on the road with the exception of no metallic paint availability and the aforementioned halogen lights, but it takes a keen eye to distinguish one model from the other.
The Classic is also amenable to the typical mods one can add to a Cooper, I have added the rear sway bar from an "S", euro parcel shelf, 16" X-lites for summer, etc.
Oh, and if the lack of cruise control is a deal breaker, you can now have the dealer add it as an OEM retrofit kit, albeit a little pricey at around $1,500.00!

Strangehate · Mar 29th, 2006, 06:44 AM

I bought a Mini.

It is a 2005 Cooper S Dark Silver with a white roof.

I would like to thank Sean for all of his help.

faster,Tobias! · Mar 29th, 2006, 06:57 AM

Welcome to the 'family', Strangehate! I'm sure Sean will get over it! Any sort of MINI community in Edmonton? We don't see posts all that often from the E-Tribe. If not, you can make the run to Calgary and join some of ours. I hope you enjoy your car...

MRC2K6 · Mar 29th, 2006, 08:03 AM

Congrats on the purchase of the most excellent vehicle... and if the community in the big E. is lacking - join us Cowgs in some get togethers. Stay toooooooooned for when we meet.

Humourl3ss · Mar 29th, 2006, 10:56 AM

You made a wise choice. Welcome to the family.

Redwytch · Mar 29th, 2006, 08:28 PM

Congrats on your new MINI, I hope you are as happy with her as I am with mine!

RS3TURN · Mar 29th, 2006, 09:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Strangehate

I bought a Mini.

It is a 2005 Cooper S Dark Silver with a white roof.

I would like to thank Sean for all of his help.

Congrats. That's my second favorite colour combo!

beken · Mar 30th, 2006, 12:31 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Strangehate

I bought a Mini.

It is a 2005 Cooper S Dark Silver with a white roof.

I would like to thank Sean for all of his help.

Congratulations! To both you and Sean. Hope our discussion on this thread didn't jeopardize the deal. In fact, I hope the discussion gives the sales person insight on what a prospective customer considers when purchasing a car.

Well done! Welcome to the MINI owners collective (resistance is futile...assimulation to the MINI collective begins immediately). Let's see some pictures

Strangehate · Mar 30th, 2006, 06:57 AM

I will get some pictures up in a few days. So far the Mini has greatly exceeded my expectations. It is by far the most exciting drive I have ever had.

Wow. That is all I can say. A shout out to Mini_Onslow for convincing me to take a look at these cars.

Mar 27th, 2006, 08:33 PM	#21
Redwytch Having a Mini Adventure!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Local Time: 09:44 PM Posts: 594 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Strangehate It is actually between two mini's. The other has the a couple of more features (upgraded sound system) but 17k kms. So right now it is coming down to who offers the better price. If the upgraded sound system is H/K then I can heartily recommend it!! I have it in my 05 EB/B MC and it is awesome!! 17K kms is actually lower mileage than my 05 MC, so its not a massive amount, but sure does make the choosing tht much harder! Good luck making your mind up! 2005 Cooper Redwytch's Raving's Redwytch's Website Was It You?

Mar 27th, 2006, 09:07 PM	#23 (permalink)
Ferroequine Formerly known as MiniVee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Calgary Local Time: 01:44 PM Posts: 1,320 Offline	FWIW, I'm quite happy with my "regular" CD Boost. Lots of debate on the merits of the H/K system out there.... www.MINICalgary.com

Mar 27th, 2006, 10:54 PM	#27 (permalink)
beken 05 MCS BEP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Delta, BC, Canada Local Time: 12:44 PM Posts: 1,229 Offline	To toss a monkey wrench into your decision... At 28000, you're getting into range for a very base model of a Cooper S. Because the MINI comes pretty well equipped already, personnlly, I would forgo NAV, Premium Pkg and a slew of other expensive options. Even the Cooper, I would recommend a very basic Cooper and if your wallet is not that big, I would even get the Cooper Classic. A comparatively equipped brand new Cooper classic is about $2000 less than a fully loaded Mazda 3GT. The Cooper is better equipped with ASC+T, an extra set of airbags, drive-by-wire throttle. So the question turns into....should you buy a well appointed slightly used MINI Cooper for 28K, or should you just get a brand new, less well appointed MINI Cooper for a bit less? Or if you can stomach a few thou more and up it to a brand new base model Cooper S? Too bad there aren't that many used Cooper S' out there for comparison purposes.

Mar 29th, 2006, 08:03 AM	#35 (permalink)
MRC2K6 drive drive drive ... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calgary Local Time: 02:44 PM Posts: 351 Offline	Congrats on the purchase of the most excellent vehicle... and if the community in the big E. is lacking - join us Cowgs in some get togethers. Stay toooooooooned for when we meet. Driving is Everything ... Anything else is just waiting around ...

Mar 29th, 2006, 10:56 AM	#36 (permalink)
Humourl3ss Now With More Cowbell Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada City Local Time: 04:44 PM Posts: 1,695 Offline	You made a wise choice. Welcome to the family. Global Moderator

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Mar 27th, 2006, 08:57 PM	#22 (permalink)
RS3TURN Shizzak ma blizzak? Join Date: Nov 2005 Local Time: 01:44 PM Posts: 415 Offline	Just to add to the confusion. If I could do it again, I would get a bare bones S. I would not get the climate control, or the H/K sound system. Climate control overcompensates, and is quite annoying compared to other cars I have/had. The H/K is okay, but I would love to install an aftermarket deck and can't do so with the H/K.

Mar 27th, 2006, 09:18 PM	#24 (permalink)
Strangehate MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Local Time: 02:44 PM Posts: 13 Offline	Well the other mini, the one with the extras, is cheaper than the Calgary one mentioned at the start of this thread.

Mar 27th, 2006, 09:51 PM	#25 (permalink)
RS3TURN Shizzak ma blizzak? Join Date: Nov 2005 Local Time: 01:44 PM Posts: 415 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Strangehate Well the other mini, the one with the extras, is cheaper than the Calgary one mentioned at the start of this thread. If price is more or less the same, and you can live without the options. Go for the one with lower kms. IMO the lower mileage is worth more than the options. Are they both demos though??

Mar 27th, 2006, 10:23 PM	#26 (permalink)
Strangehate MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Local Time: 02:44 PM Posts: 13 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by RS3TURN If price is more or less the same, and you can live without the options. Go for the one with lower kms. IMO the lower mileage is worth more than the options. Are they both demos though?? The Calgary one is a demo and the other one is a former lease. The good thing about the leased one is that it is a certified used compared to the Calgary one which is not.

Mar 27th, 2006, 11:08 PM	#28 (permalink)
SYZMTRS Sean Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Calgary Local Time: 02:44 PM Posts: 59 Offline	The Cooper we have for sale is not a DEMO - it was owned by an employee who works for MINI Canada. If nothing else - I am enjoying the debate. GO MINI GO

Mar 27th, 2006, 11:30 PM	#29 (permalink)
RS3TURN Shizzak ma blizzak? Join Date: Nov 2005 Local Time: 01:44 PM Posts: 415 Offline	If I could do it again, I would either buy a base cooperS, or a cooper. I enjoy (and hate) driving both models just as much. The things that I like and hate are the same on both models. So many things about this car that annoy me, but I still enjoy driving it... IMO the extras aren't worth it. I think I have said this in every thread like this. Someone buy my cooperS. haha. Fully loaded except nav.

Mar 27th, 2006, 11:34 PM	#30 (permalink)
heli_guy Fly Heli's they're fun! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary Local Time: 01:44 PM Posts: 177 Offline	Well as I just went through this a few months ago, I will add a couple of tidbits to help muddy the waters. So here are MY opinions: Premium Package - necessary option for me. Has the wonderful panaroof and cruise control, to me were essential. Some don't like the pana roof, I sure do. That's it for necessary. For me, the classic doesn't have the pana roof and cruise control, which were deal breakers for me. If you don't want cruise or the pana roof, then go classic and get new. Otherwise get the 5800km ones. Mine was actually a employee vehicle too, and so far so good. It is a good way to get a Mini for a weeeee bit less. Personally, for me, the S does not meet the fuel requirements I wanted, but it should would be fun to drive! Whatever you get, once you get it, you will like it! Hey Sean, can I get a referral?

Mar 28th, 2006, 06:18 PM	#31 (permalink)
beken 05 MCS BEP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Delta, BC, Canada Local Time: 12:44 PM Posts: 1,229 Offline	Come to think of it, if fun to drive was your main criteria, I found the Cooper to be more involving a drive than the S. I have an S because where I live, my commute involves going over lots of hills and the added power was a requirement. But I found the Cooper engine to be more willing to rev. I also like the lower hood design (without the scoop) better on the Cooper. It just looks cleaner. This is not to say I am not absolutely happy with my MCS. It just depends on your requirements.

Mar 28th, 2006, 07:37 PM	#32 (permalink)
MINNOW Obsessive Not Compulsive Join Date: May 2004 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Local Time: 01:44 PM Posts: 397 Offline	I have been quite happy with my Cooper Classic - if you can live without cruise control, sunroof, and other options that simply aren't available on the Classic, I give it a hearty recommendation. Although the car does not include the Xenon low beams I have never found the lighting to be lacking. The looks are the same as any Cooper on the road with the exception of no metallic paint availability and the aforementioned halogen lights, but it takes a keen eye to distinguish one model from the other. The Classic is also amenable to the typical mods one can add to a Cooper, I have added the rear sway bar from an "S", euro parcel shelf, 16" X-lites for summer, etc. Oh, and if the lack of cruise control is a deal breaker, you can now have the dealer add it as an OEM retrofit kit, albeit a little pricey at around $1,500.00!

Mar 29th, 2006, 06:44 AM	#33 (permalink)
Strangehate MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Local Time: 02:44 PM Posts: 13 Offline	I bought a Mini. It is a 2005 Cooper S Dark Silver with a white roof. I would like to thank Sean for all of his help.

Mar 29th, 2006, 06:57 AM	#34 (permalink)
faster,Tobias! Fanatically Enthiusiastic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Local Time: 01:44 PM Posts: 1,165 Offline	Welcome to the 'family', Strangehate! I'm sure Sean will get over it! Any sort of MINI community in Edmonton? We don't see posts all that often from the E-Tribe. If not, you can make the run to Calgary and join some of ours. I hope you enjoy your car...

Mar 29th, 2006, 08:28 PM	#37 (permalink)
Redwytch Having a Mini Adventure!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Local Time: 09:44 PM Posts: 594 Offline	Congrats on your new MINI, I hope you are as happy with her as I am with mine! 2005 Cooper Redwytch's Raving's Redwytch's Website Was It You?

Mar 29th, 2006, 09:06 PM	#38 (permalink)
RS3TURN Shizzak ma blizzak? Join Date: Nov 2005 Local Time: 01:44 PM Posts: 415 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Strangehate I bought a Mini. It is a 2005 Cooper S Dark Silver with a white roof. I would like to thank Sean for all of his help. Congrats. That's my second favorite colour combo!

Mar 30th, 2006, 12:31 AM	#39 (permalink)
beken 05 MCS BEP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Delta, BC, Canada Local Time: 12:44 PM Posts: 1,229 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Strangehate I bought a Mini. It is a 2005 Cooper S Dark Silver with a white roof. I would like to thank Sean for all of his help. Congratulations! To both you and Sean. Hope our discussion on this thread didn't jeopardize the deal. In fact, I hope the discussion gives the sales person insight on what a prospective customer considers when purchasing a car. Well done! Welcome to the MINI owners collective (resistance is futile...assimulation to the MINI collective begins immediately). Let's see some pictures

Mar 30th, 2006, 06:57 AM	#40 (permalink)
Strangehate MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Local Time: 02:44 PM Posts: 13 Offline	I will get some pictures up in a few days. So far the Mini has greatly exceeded my expectations. It is by far the most exciting drive I have ever had. Wow. That is all I can say. A shout out to Mini_Onslow for convincing me to take a look at these cars.

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