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acksee · Oct 4th, 2004, 04:40 AM

Hi folks,

So I finally got around to test driving a Mini (downtown Toronto Mini) and sat down with a salesperson for a chat. Did anyone have any success in negotiating a price lower than MSRP? I was looking at a 05 Cooper with the sport package. The salesperson said they are basically not giving discounts to anyone. True or false?

acksee

zyo · Oct 4th, 2004, 08:06 PM

I don't know about over there but in the UK you'd be lucky to get a discount.I think people are relying on asking for a full tank of fuel or mud flaps or other such 'freebies' to try and get at least something out of the dealer.Dealers don't have trouble selling MINI so why would they want to discount,its a bit different if you've got a product that isn't selling very well but unfortunately in the finance sense our car of choice doesn't have that problem.Good luck with getting some 'freebies 'off your dealer.

MINNOW · Oct 6th, 2004, 10:33 PM

True, unless the dealers have changed tactics since I picked up my Cooper this May.
I got zero discount, but did manage to get $300 in merchandise or accessories of my choice, so this could be viewed similar to a discount. They would not, however reduce the car price by this amount in lieu of accepting the accessories.
The only way I can see getting a lower than list price is for the end of model year cars on the lot that they want to move. When I was investigating the purchase there were some cars being offerred at a small discount from their inventory. They were models with too many options for my budget so I ordered to my spec.
It felt strange not to be able to haggle on price, but in the end I felt the car was good value.

Guff · Oct 8th, 2004, 02:48 AM

Yeah, I got zip discount. Sure, they waived $600 in some type of license/registration fees but it is what it is.

mini.drew · Oct 8th, 2004, 03:42 AM

There are several Mini dealers in the GTA area, so shop around and I'm sure they can offer you some discount. When I bought my 04 cooper, I visited 3 dealers (waterloo, woodbridge and markham) and all of them could at least offer me 2%/$600 discount, and that was before I negiotiate.

LiddleD · Oct 8th, 2004, 06:46 AM

like most have mentioned, it's pretty hard to get a discount on MSRP...it's more about getting extras "thrown in at no extra cost". i got the HK system, metallic paint, rubber floor mats, Italian Job double DVD set and a bunch of little things (hat, t-shirt, mints, keychain) thrown in at no expense. that made it a little sweeter.

by the way, i bought an '04 MCS in July '03, received it in October '03. so it wasn't because they were trying to get rid of the model year, i was getting a brand spankin' new 2004 MCS in 2003!

tai10 · Oct 9th, 2004, 10:24 PM

i was lucky enough to get the H/K stereo as a "freebie"

jf1972 · Oct 12th, 2004, 06:19 PM

My friend works at the BMW dealer as the manager. He told me that they couldn't give any discount to the Mini because of low margin. If I were to get a BMW, then I could get about $2000 off.

SoonToBeMini · Oct 13th, 2004, 02:07 AM

You can go through profusion if you're entitled to, they'll get you a few hundred $.

Valdiri · Oct 16th, 2004, 04:40 PM

Hey JF - for fun, did your Manager friend tell you the difference in margins between the MINI and the BMW?

A year ago the margin was 9% on MINIs (exc. Classic).

He described the margin as 'low' . What is average?

1.8TJet 16VRab · Oct 24th, 2004, 04:52 AM

We got Downtown Mini to throw in one of those cool remote control Mini's in our deal last July. I think they retailed for like $180 or something like that? I don't really mind cause we love the car and I always tell myself "what other car looks and drives this good for the same amout of money"

larkie · Oct 25th, 2004, 10:57 PM

i just bought a new 04 mcs, and got a $2100 discount since i'm getting a year end car..
do u guys think i got a fair deal there? or i should of ask for even more.

YQTYYZ · Nov 1st, 2004, 01:24 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by larkie

i just bought a new 04 mcs, and got a $2100 discount since i'm getting a year end car..
do u guys think i got a fair deal there? or i should of ask for even more.

You got an excellent deal compared to many of the other folks here. I've asked for discounts and have been turned down at various locations. So you got lucky and be happy with it.

When I get my car/truck/SUV, I'll be doing the same thing - waiting for the year-end to roll around.

larkie · Nov 1st, 2004, 07:02 AM

oh really?? Yeah my is a pretty base out MCS with HK sound and fog light that's it... 35k Drive out.

ScoobyInACooper · Nov 1st, 2004, 02:15 PM

I just picked up my MCS last week. I have the numbers at home, but I talked to a bunch of dealers too (TO, Waterloo, St. Catherines) TO is the least likely give a discount (big demand in the GTA) But if you tell them that someone in Wloo will give you a discount, they'll probably give you a discound too.

Basically, it's a pretty marginal discount, but thats all they can do.

If you want I can look up the numbers for the max discount.

Cheers.

Valdiri · Nov 6th, 2004, 05:37 PM

The more upfront salespeople will tell you that BMW helps the dealers clear-out the year end cars (Manufacturer to dealer discounts as seen here - $2K plus, plus) .
I think they start in August and peak in October.
Note - it is up to the dealer to give you this discount, so you must be aggressive and shop around.

I would suspect that '05 prices become more negotiable as winter arrives - I can't imagine there is much traffic at a MINI dealer in early January.. but that is just a guess..

Aside - with the spectacular increase in the Canadian dollar over the past couple of years, have you noticed how much more expensive the cars are in Canada now compared to the USA?

calo · Nov 29th, 2004, 09:40 PM

Hi,

I just got my 05 MC ( with premium package ) about 2 weeks ago and I got about $1700 discount at the Mini Woodbridge dealership. My friend got hers at the same place about 1 week after mine and she got about $1300 off.

When i got my mini at that dealership, I dont think they are having much businesses, so they are very willing to give me discounts!

Kenmini · Jan 6th, 2005, 06:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by calo

Hi,

I just got my 05 MC ( with premium package ) about 2 weeks ago and I got about $1700 discount at the Mini Woodbridge dealership. My friend got hers at the same place about 1 week after mine and she got about $1300 off.

When i got my mini at that dealership, I dont think they are having much businesses, so they are very willing to give me discounts!

HEY ... I'm looking into purchasing a MINI soon for myself ... I wonder how the business would be around Febauary ... I hope I can get a discount look you did !

BTW .. who did you deal with back then ?

del sol · Feb 8th, 2005, 01:35 AM

They offered me 2% off MSRP for a year end model, that was without any negotiation. I'm sure they screwed me on the other charges to make up for it...

FREDBRG · Feb 17th, 2005, 08:14 PM

I bought a "company" car (03 Cooper) that had 12k km on it and same thing, they would not budge on the price even though it was essentially a used car, but I did convince them to repaint the hood to fix up the stone chips.

Oct 4th, 2004, 04:40 AM	#1
acksee MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto Local Time: 04:54 PM Posts: 1 Offline	05 model prices negotiable? Hi folks, So I finally got around to test driving a Mini (downtown Toronto Mini) and sat down with a salesperson for a chat. Did anyone have any success in negotiating a price lower than MSRP? I was looking at a 05 Cooper with the sport package. The salesperson said they are basically not giving discounts to anyone. True or false? acksee

Nov 1st, 2004, 02:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
ScoobyInACooper MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Local Time: 03:54 PM Posts: 118 Offline	You can get up to 750$ off (I think) I just picked up my MCS last week. I have the numbers at home, but I talked to a bunch of dealers too (TO, Waterloo, St. Catherines) TO is the least likely give a discount (big demand in the GTA) But if you tell them that someone in Wloo will give you a discount, they'll probably give you a discound too. Basically, it's a pretty marginal discount, but thats all they can do. If you want I can look up the numbers for the max discount. Cheers.

Jan 6th, 2005, 06:44 AM	#18 (permalink)
Kenmini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Ultimate GTA ! Local Time: 08:54 PM Posts: 92 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by calo Hi, I just got my 05 MC ( with premium package ) about 2 weeks ago and I got about $1700 discount at the Mini Woodbridge dealership. My friend got hers at the same place about 1 week after mine and she got about $1300 off. When i got my mini at that dealership, I dont think they are having much businesses, so they are very willing to give me discounts! HEY ... I'm looking into purchasing a MINI soon for myself ... I wonder how the business would be around Febauary ... I hope I can get a discount look you did ! BTW .. who did you deal with back then ? 2005 HB/HB MCSA !! ALL the package... ALL the Fun .. ALL the time !!!

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FREDBRG '03 BRG Cooper Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London, Ontario, CA Local Time: 04:54 PM Posts: 10 Offline	I bought a "company" car (03 Cooper) that had 12k km on it and same thing, they would not budge on the price even though it was essentially a used car, but I did convince them to repaint the hood to fix up the stone chips. Fred London Canada

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Oct 4th, 2004, 08:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
zyo owt else is just traffic Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Edge of Reason Local Time: 08:54 PM Posts: 1,420 Offline	I don't know about over there but in the UK you'd be lucky to get a discount.I think people are relying on asking for a full tank of fuel or mud flaps or other such 'freebies' to try and get at least something out of the dealer.Dealers don't have trouble selling MINI so why would they want to discount,its a bit different if you've got a product that isn't selling very well but unfortunately in the finance sense our car of choice doesn't have that problem.Good luck with getting some 'freebies 'off your dealer.

Oct 6th, 2004, 10:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
MINNOW Obsessive Not Compulsive Join Date: May 2004 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Local Time: 01:54 PM Posts: 397 Offline	True, unless the dealers have changed tactics since I picked up my Cooper this May. I got zero discount, but did manage to get $300 in merchandise or accessories of my choice, so this could be viewed similar to a discount. They would not, however reduce the car price by this amount in lieu of accepting the accessories. The only way I can see getting a lower than list price is for the end of model year cars on the lot that they want to move. When I was investigating the purchase there were some cars being offerred at a small discount from their inventory. They were models with too many options for my budget so I ordered to my spec. It felt strange not to be able to haggle on price, but in the end I felt the car was good value.

Oct 8th, 2004, 02:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
Guff MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2004 Local Time: 01:54 PM Posts: 12 Offline	Yeah, I got zip discount. Sure, they waived $600 in some type of license/registration fees but it is what it is.

Oct 8th, 2004, 03:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
mini.drew MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Local Time: 03:54 PM Posts: 1 Offline	There are several Mini dealers in the GTA area, so shop around and I'm sure they can offer you some discount. When I bought my 04 cooper, I visited 3 dealers (waterloo, woodbridge and markham) and all of them could at least offer me 2%/$600 discount, and that was before I negiotiate.

Oct 8th, 2004, 06:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
LiddleD MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Local Time: 01:54 PM Posts: 239 Offline	like most have mentioned, it's pretty hard to get a discount on MSRP...it's more about getting extras "thrown in at no extra cost". i got the HK system, metallic paint, rubber floor mats, Italian Job double DVD set and a bunch of little things (hat, t-shirt, mints, keychain) thrown in at no expense. that made it a little sweeter. by the way, i bought an '04 MCS in July '03, received it in October '03. so it wasn't because they were trying to get rid of the model year, i was getting a brand spankin' new 2004 MCS in 2003!

Oct 9th, 2004, 10:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
tai10 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Local Time: 03:54 PM Posts: 59 Offline	i was lucky enough to get the H/K stereo as a "freebie"

Oct 12th, 2004, 06:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
jf1972 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario Local Time: 04:54 PM Posts: 43 Offline	My friend works at the BMW dealer as the manager. He told me that they couldn't give any discount to the Mini because of low margin. If I were to get a BMW, then I could get about $2000 off.

Oct 13th, 2004, 02:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
SoonToBeMini MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Montreal Local Time: 04:54 PM Posts: 46 Offline	You can go through profusion if you're entitled to, they'll get you a few hundred $.

Oct 16th, 2004, 04:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
Valdiri MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ontario-o-o-o Local Time: 03:54 PM Posts: 73 Offline	Hey JF - for fun, did your Manager friend tell you the difference in margins between the MINI and the BMW? A year ago the margin was 9% on MINIs (exc. Classic). He described the margin as 'low' . What is average?

Oct 24th, 2004, 04:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
1.8TJet 16VRab MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Local Time: 03:54 PM Posts: 2 Offline	We got Downtown Mini to throw in one of those cool remote control Mini's in our deal last July. I think they retailed for like $180 or something like that? I don't really mind cause we love the car and I always tell myself "what other car looks and drives this good for the same amout of money"

Oct 25th, 2004, 10:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
larkie MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Local Time: 03:54 PM Posts: 6 Offline	i just bought a new 04 mcs, and got a $2100 discount since i'm getting a year end car.. do u guys think i got a fair deal there? or i should of ask for even more.

Nov 1st, 2004, 01:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
YQTYYZ MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Local Time: 04:54 PM Posts: 195 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by larkie i just bought a new 04 mcs, and got a $2100 discount since i'm getting a year end car.. do u guys think i got a fair deal there? or i should of ask for even more. You got an excellent deal compared to many of the other folks here. I've asked for discounts and have been turned down at various locations. So you got lucky and be happy with it. When I get my car/truck/SUV, I'll be doing the same thing - waiting for the year-end to roll around.

Nov 1st, 2004, 07:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
larkie MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Local Time: 03:54 PM Posts: 6 Offline	oh really?? Yeah my is a pretty base out MCS with HK sound and fog light that's it... 35k Drive out.

Nov 6th, 2004, 05:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
Valdiri MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ontario-o-o-o Local Time: 03:54 PM Posts: 73 Offline	The more upfront salespeople will tell you that BMW helps the dealers clear-out the year end cars (Manufacturer to dealer discounts as seen here - $2K plus, plus) . I think they start in August and peak in October. Note - it is up to the dealer to give you this discount, so you must be aggressive and shop around. I would suspect that '05 prices become more negotiable as winter arrives - I can't imagine there is much traffic at a MINI dealer in early January.. but that is just a guess.. Aside - with the spectacular increase in the Canadian dollar over the past couple of years, have you noticed how much more expensive the cars are in Canada now compared to the USA?

Nov 29th, 2004, 09:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
calo MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Local Time: 03:54 PM Posts: 1 Offline	Hi, I just got my 05 MC ( with premium package ) about 2 weeks ago and I got about $1700 discount at the Mini Woodbridge dealership. My friend got hers at the same place about 1 week after mine and she got about $1300 off. When i got my mini at that dealership, I dont think they are having much businesses, so they are very willing to give me discounts!

Feb 8th, 2005, 01:35 AM	#19 (permalink)
del sol MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Local Time: 03:54 PM Posts: 3 Offline	They offered me 2% off MSRP for a year end model, that was without any negotiation. I'm sure they screwed me on the other charges to make up for it...

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