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cooper4us · Apr 3rd, 2003, 10:43 AM

5,500 troublefree miles and ZERO problems with our August 2002 Build '02 Cooper CVT.

Had 32.1 updated just about 2 months ago...smooth as silk!

Best car on the road, barnone!

justamini · Apr 3rd, 2003, 10:52 AM

I'm getting my Cooper\CVT this June, I'm just wondering if all the fixes and software update will be on this vehicle, or should I wait for 2004? Any thoughts? Thanks

cooper4us · Apr 3rd, 2003, 11:09 AM

All the software fixes will be in your car by then from factory. Don't worry, enjoy and welcome to the world of motoring!

valnmike · Apr 7th, 2003, 12:16 AM

Our 14 Feb 03 build CVT has just over 1,000 miles on it so far. It does drive like it's on a rubber band at slow speeds, and sometimes when sitting at a light, if feels like we got rammed by the car behind us. The first 500 miles or so, it felt like it was changing gears like a conventional transmission. Now it is driving smother (at speed) and is more like what I expected a CVT to be like - constant RPM while speed increases- very cool.

Even with the DSC off, it is very sluggish from a standing start in every mode, and still has that slow speed rubber band feeling. Is this the software doing this or just how the car is always going to be? How do I determine which s/w version is installed on the car?

acetonic · Apr 7th, 2003, 01:42 AM

19,600 miles on my CVT with no real problems. It was starting to lurch a bit when starting up with a cold engine, but I had the latest software update when I went in for an oil change and now she runs smooth as silk once again.

Great car, great tranny!

hachomini · Apr 11th, 2003, 04:34 AM

How's your car, Fishie?

Everybody...mine has been working well. I used to have to go to the dealers every 500 miles..but this time it made it pass 500....hope i don't have to go again!

Willy · Apr 11th, 2003, 07:27 AM

Mine is at 3500 miles without a problem. I am always playing with the sport mode, that is a lot of fun!

fishie <///>< · Apr 11th, 2003, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hachomini
How's your car, Fishie?

Everybody...mine has been working well. I used to have to go to the dealers every 500 miles..but this time it made it pass 500....hope i don't have to go again!

when i took it in a month ago, they finally fixed the problem. it's a cracked valve near the gas tank. besides the minor lurching problem around 10 mph, it's been great! i'll be taking my car in a week for CD 33.1 update.

nonsequitur · Apr 11th, 2003, 01:51 PM

No faults, no problems since Squirt was returned on 1/5/2003.

Hey, I was messing around with another aspect of this most interesting CVT transmission tonight - gas mileage, not my usual mode! I'll put a note over on Cooper CVT driving technique.

Electrc109 · Apr 11th, 2003, 11:38 PM

I'm at 12000 miles and haven't had any CVT problems

cooper4us · Apr 12th, 2003, 05:10 AM

Again, I think most of the real chronic CVT related problems come from early 2003 MINI Cooper CVT models built between September-October 2002. This production batch was part of the infamous recall for the wrong viscosity oil put at the factory in the CVT transmission units.

I am afraid that there are long term damage effects on these cars due to the improper oil viscosity used at time of manufacture.

I think it woul dbe a good idea to conduct a poll to determine which CVT owners have experienced or currently experience problems with their cars based on their mileage and build date.

nonsequitur · Apr 12th, 2003, 07:07 AM

So if such a poll were conducted in a new thread, what would the questions and possible responses be?

Example, but you may want more detail:

MINI Cooper CVT Reliability Poll

Do you have CD#32.1 or later installed? Yes/No
If yes, then please take this poll:
Build Date < 02-0228 with continued problems? Yes/No
Build Date 02-0301 < > 02-0630 with continued problems? Yes/No
Build Date 02-0701 < > 02-0830 with continued problems? Yes/No
Build Date 02-0901 < > 02-1031 with continued problems? Yes/No
Build Date 02-1101 < > 03-0131 with continued problems? Yes/No
Build Date 03-0201 < > 03-0430 with continued problems? Yes/No

Directions for setting up a poll on MINI2:
http://www.mini2.com/forum/misc.php?...q&page=3#polls

cooper4us · Apr 12th, 2003, 09:07 AM

Data seems OK, however mileage when problem first was reported and current mileage data columns must be added.

Also it would b helpful to know whether the car was part of the CVT recall or not.

scooter1rad · Apr 15th, 2003, 09:15 AM

How do you know what version of DME you have installed on you car??

cooper4us · Apr 15th, 2003, 01:08 PM

Call your dealer and give them your VIN serial number. Based on that info they should be able to retrieve your car's record from their service database and obtain the current DME software version installed.

If the dealer gives you heck, put a call to MINIUSA.

scooter1rad · Apr 19th, 2003, 04:59 AM

Thanks-

The web sites have been incredibly helpful. I have initiated a file with MINIUSA regarding my problem with engine power loss and I will contact the dealer to find out what version DME I have on the car.

scooter1rad

Apr 3rd, 2003, 10:43 AM	#21
cooper4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Local Time: 02:03 PM Posts: 1,423 Offline	5,500 troublefree miles and ZERO problems with our August 2002 Build '02 Cooper CVT. Had 32.1 updated just about 2 months ago...smooth as silk! Best car on the road, barnone! '02 MINI Cooper CVT On Order: 2004 MCS (Est production date: 9/5/03)

Apr 3rd, 2003, 11:09 AM	#23 (permalink)
cooper4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Local Time: 02:03 PM Posts: 1,423 Offline	All the software fixes will be in your car by then from factory. Don't worry, enjoy and welcome to the world of motoring! '02 MINI Cooper CVT On Order: 2004 MCS (Est production date: 9/5/03)

Apr 7th, 2003, 12:16 AM	#24 (permalink)
valnmike MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silver Spring, MD Local Time: 03:03 PM Posts: 152 Offline	Our 14 Feb 03 build CVT has just over 1,000 miles on it so far. It does drive like it's on a rubber band at slow speeds, and sometimes when sitting at a light, if feels like we got rammed by the car behind us. The first 500 miles or so, it felt like it was changing gears like a conventional transmission. Now it is driving smother (at speed) and is more like what I expected a CVT to be like - constant RPM while speed increases- very cool. Even with the DSC off, it is very sluggish from a standing start in every mode, and still has that slow speed rubber band feeling. Is this the software doing this or just how the car is always going to be? How do I determine which s/w version is installed on the car? -=Mike=- laissez les bons temps rouler

Apr 11th, 2003, 04:34 AM	#26 (permalink)
hachomini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston, MA Local Time: 02:03 PM Posts: 66 Offline	How's your car, Fishie? Everybody...mine has been working well. I used to have to go to the dealers every 500 miles..but this time it made it pass 500....hope i don't have to go again! 2002 Liquid Yellow Mini Cooper, White roof, 16" white wheels.

Apr 11th, 2003, 07:27 AM	#27 (permalink)
Willy MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Running From The Law Local Time: 02:03 PM Posts: 2,452 Offline	Mine is at 3500 miles without a problem. I am always playing with the sport mode, that is a lot of fun! http://billlawrence.blogspot.com

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Apr 3rd, 2003, 10:52 AM	#22 (permalink)
justamini MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SSF,CA Local Time: 12:03 PM Posts: 38 Offline	I'm getting my Cooper\CVT this June, I'm just wondering if all the fixes and software update will be on this vehicle, or should I wait for 2004? Any thoughts? Thanks

Apr 7th, 2003, 01:42 AM	#25 (permalink)
acetonic MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Castle, Delaware Local Time: 03:03 PM Posts: 288 Offline	19,600 miles on my CVT with no real problems. It was starting to lurch a bit when starting up with a cold engine, but I had the latest software update when I went in for an oil change and now she runs smooth as silk once again. Great car, great tranny!

Apr 11th, 2003, 01:05 PM	#28 (permalink)
fishie <///>< MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Alhambra, CA Local Time: 12:03 PM Posts: 366 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by hachomini How's your car, Fishie? Everybody...mine has been working well. I used to have to go to the dealers every 500 miles..but this time it made it pass 500....hope i don't have to go again! when i took it in a month ago, they finally fixed the problem. it's a cracked valve near the gas tank. besides the minor lurching problem around 10 mph, it's been great! i'll be taking my car in a week for CD 33.1 update.

Apr 11th, 2003, 01:51 PM	#29 (permalink)
nonsequitur MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle area, WA Local Time: 11:03 AM Posts: 1,471 Offline	No faults, no problems since Squirt was returned on 1/5/2003. Hey, I was messing around with another aspect of this most interesting CVT transmission tonight - gas mileage, not my usual mode! I'll put a note over on Cooper CVT driving technique. '02 MINI Cooper CVT(6/12/02; Indi Blue/Black, R-81 7-hole 15x5.5" or NZO 16x6.5") '67 Austin Cooper S (6/26/67; Tartan Red/Black, 10x4.5")

Apr 11th, 2003, 11:38 PM	#30 (permalink)
Electrc109 DRIVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ormond by the Sea FL Local Time: 03:03 PM Posts: 691 Offline	I'm at 12000 miles and haven't had any CVT problems

Apr 12th, 2003, 05:10 AM	#31 (permalink)
cooper4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Local Time: 02:03 PM Posts: 1,423 Offline	Again, I think most of the real chronic CVT related problems come from early 2003 MINI Cooper CVT models built between September-October 2002. This production batch was part of the infamous recall for the wrong viscosity oil put at the factory in the CVT transmission units. I am afraid that there are long term damage effects on these cars due to the improper oil viscosity used at time of manufacture. I think it woul dbe a good idea to conduct a poll to determine which CVT owners have experienced or currently experience problems with their cars based on their mileage and build date. '02 MINI Cooper CVT On Order: 2004 MCS (Est production date: 9/5/03)

Apr 12th, 2003, 07:07 AM	#32 (permalink)
nonsequitur MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle area, WA Local Time: 11:03 AM Posts: 1,471 Offline	So if such a poll were conducted in a new thread, what would the questions and possible responses be? Example, but you may want more detail: MINI Cooper CVT Reliability Poll Do you have CD#32.1 or later installed? Yes/No If yes, then please take this poll: Build Date < 02-0228 with continued problems? Yes/No Build Date 02-0301 < > 02-0630 with continued problems? Yes/No Build Date 02-0701 < > 02-0830 with continued problems? Yes/No Build Date 02-0901 < > 02-1031 with continued problems? Yes/No Build Date 02-1101 < > 03-0131 with continued problems? Yes/No Build Date 03-0201 < > 03-0430 with continued problems? Yes/No Directions for setting up a poll on MINI2: http://www.mini2.com/forum/misc.php?...q&page=3#polls '02 MINI Cooper CVT(6/12/02; Indi Blue/Black, R-81 7-hole 15x5.5" or NZO 16x6.5") '67 Austin Cooper S (6/26/67; Tartan Red/Black, 10x4.5") Last edited by johnewald : Apr 19th, 2003 at 05:53 AM.

Apr 12th, 2003, 09:07 AM	#33 (permalink)
cooper4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Local Time: 02:03 PM Posts: 1,423 Offline	Data seems OK, however mileage when problem first was reported and current mileage data columns must be added. Also it would b helpful to know whether the car was part of the CVT recall or not. '02 MINI Cooper CVT On Order: 2004 MCS (Est production date: 9/5/03)

Apr 15th, 2003, 09:15 AM	#34 (permalink)
scooter1rad MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westport, CT Local Time: 02:03 PM Posts: 9 Offline	How do you know what version of DME you have installed on you car?? Scooter1rad

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Apr 15th, 2003, 01:08 PM	#35 (permalink)
cooper4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Local Time: 02:03 PM Posts: 1,423 Offline	Call your dealer and give them your VIN serial number. Based on that info they should be able to retrieve your car's record from their service database and obtain the current DME software version installed. If the dealer gives you heck, put a call to MINIUSA. '02 MINI Cooper CVT On Order: 2004 MCS (Est production date: 9/5/03)

Apr 19th, 2003, 04:59 AM	#36 (permalink)
scooter1rad MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westport, CT Local Time: 02:03 PM Posts: 9 Offline	Thanks- The web sites have been incredibly helpful. I have initiated a file with MINIUSA regarding my problem with engine power loss and I will contact the dealer to find out what version DME I have on the car. scooter1rad Scooter1rad

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