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punkeyfunky · Jun 10th, 2003, 02:48 PM

Hi all.

First post...

Moving to a new Cooper/cvt from a 380bhp Supra is a bit of a change...

The Cooper is nippy, but not quite enough! I contacted JCW about the 'works' kit, and they point blank told me that it wasn't an option for the CVT model.

Why? Is the CVT tranny not strong enough for more power?
If Toyota can build an auto that'll do 500bhp on a standard box...

I specifically wanted the works kit to keep the warranty intact; I commute 120 miles/day (yes, in my Mini) so reliability is important.

I guess I'll have to do things the hard way and do aftermarket mods. (I thought I'd seen the end of that with the Supra!)

I'd been keen to hear from other Cooper/CVT peeps that have increaed power.

Oh, it's worth stating that I *have* to drive auto (big RTA 5 years ago, messy...) and the 'S' doesn't come auto.

I might just have to get another Supra for my kicks... hmm 1.3bar boost, 5" HKS Hiper...

Lee

Woz (Scotland) · Jun 10th, 2003, 03:51 PM

I have seen other posts on Mini 2 about the CVT not being able to handle more power, which is the reason for there not being a MCS option for CVT.

HTH

punkeyfunky · Jun 10th, 2003, 06:23 PM

"I have seen other posts on Mini 2 about the CVT not being able to handle more power, which is the reason for there not being a MCS option for CVT."

Duh.... that sucks! I guess my options really are limited then.

Thanks.

cooper4us · Jun 10th, 2003, 08:45 PM

You have to have an automatic?

punkeyfunky · Jun 10th, 2003, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cooper4us
You have to have an automatic?

Yeah - after the accident my left arm was (well, still is!) paralysed which makes driving a manual a bit tricky...

Besides, only way I could keep my license was to get auto.
I picked up the fastest auto I could find (modified Supra), until it got a bit too pricey to keep on the road. Then I switched to the Mini for fun and reliability.

I just want to give it a bit more power... I could go the other route, and strip out as much weight as I can. Hmmm...

Lee

ARitz · Jun 10th, 2003, 11:00 PM

You may not be able to get the JCW kit, but you can fit many other aftermarket bits.The limit of the CVT is 165hp, so you can still pack a lot of power without ruining the tranny.

-Andrew

nonsequitur · Jun 11th, 2003, 01:59 AM

I've heard that Diamond Racing (based in CA) is working on specific CVT performance mods for release later this summer.

punkeyfunky · Jun 11th, 2003, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ARitz
...limit of the CVT is 165hp...

-Andrew

That's a useful figure to know; thanks.

Lee

punkeyfunky · Jun 11th, 2003, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnewald
I've heard that Diamond Racing (based in CA) is working on specific CVT performance mods for release later this summer.

Sounds interesting...

Do you know if they have a website?

Lee

Rainbow-Walker · Jun 11th, 2003, 04:15 AM

I emailed JCW about the kit for a CVT cooper, and they said no problem !

ARitz · Jun 11th, 2003, 05:02 AM

Rainbow-Walker,
I was sure that i had asked them and they said it was ok, thanks for double checking
-Andrew

punkeyfunky · Jun 11th, 2003, 05:12 AM

So, am I missing something then? Are we talking about the same JCW? Or have I got things mixed up...?

Here is the reply they sent to me:

(their typo's, not mine)
======================
From: "John Cooper Works" <info@johncooper.co.uk>
Date: Thu May 29, 2003 14:43:06 Europe/London
To: <lee@punkey.net>
Subject:

Thanks for your email
_
Unfortunatelt it is not possible to perform the conversion on the Auto Cooper sorry to dissapoint you
_
Best regards

JCW
======================

If this is the same place, can you please forward their email (saying no problem) to me, and I'll speak to them about it,

Cheers,

Lee

collibosher · Jun 11th, 2003, 10:15 AM

punkeyfunky
you could always move to the states and shift with your right arm!

i have a 100 mile commute to work and love the CVT cooper for reliability.. but i can imagine going from 380 bhp to 115 would take some adapting!

punkeyfunky · Jun 11th, 2003, 05:27 PM

Confusion eliminated...

============
From: "John Cooper Works" <info@johncooper.co.uk>
Date: Wed Jun 11, 2003 11:18:54 Europe/London
To: "Punkey" <lee@punkey.net>
Subject: Re:

The descision was made not to carry out the conversion for the CVT in March
this year, as we have only gained warranty approval on the manual
transmision.

Best regards

JCW
============

elmadi · Jun 11th, 2003, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkeyfunky
Confusion eliminated...

============
From: "John Cooper Works" <info@johncooper.co.uk>
Date: Wed Jun 11, 2003 11:18:54 Europe/London
To: "Punkey" <lee@punkey.net>
Subject: Re:

The descision was made not to carry out the conversion for the CVT in March
this year, as we have only gained warranty approval on the manual
transmision.

Best regards

JCW
============

Ummm....

Jun 10th, 2003, 02:48 PM	#1
punkeyfunky UberGeek Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 862 Offline	No JCW for CVT, what gives? Hi all. First post... Moving to a new Cooper/cvt from a 380bhp Supra is a bit of a change... The Cooper is nippy, but not quite enough! I contacted JCW about the 'works' kit, and they point blank told me that it wasn't an option for the CVT model. Why? Is the CVT tranny not strong enough for more power? If Toyota can build an auto that'll do 500bhp on a standard box... I specifically wanted the works kit to keep the warranty intact; I commute 120 miles/day (yes, in my Mini) so reliability is important. I guess I'll have to do things the hard way and do aftermarket mods. (I thought I'd seen the end of that with the Supra!) I'd been keen to hear from other Cooper/CVT peeps that have increaed power. Oh, it's worth stating that I have to drive auto (big RTA 5 years ago, messy...) and the 'S' doesn't come auto. I might just have to get another Supra for my kicks... hmm 1.3bar boost, 5" HKS Hiper... Lee

Jun 10th, 2003, 08:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
cooper4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Local Time: 05:37 PM Posts: 1,423 Offline	You have to have an automatic? '02 MINI Cooper CVT On Order: 2004 MCS (Est production date: 9/5/03)

Jun 11th, 2003, 01:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
nonsequitur Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle area, WA Local Time: 03:37 PM Posts: 1,466 Offline	I've heard that Diamond Racing (based in CA) is working on specific CVT performance mods for release later this summer. '02 MINI Cooper CVT (prod. date: 6/12/2002; Indi Blue/Black roof, R-81 7-hole 15x5.5" or NZO 16x6.5") '67 Austin Cooper S 1275 Mk1 (build date: 6/26/1967; Tartan Red/Black Roof, Minilite 10x4.5" or 10x6.0")

Jun 11th, 2003, 10:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
collibosher MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Location: ocean city Local Time: 06:37 PM Posts: 24 Offline	punkeyfunky you could always move to the states and shift with your right arm! i have a 100 mile commute to work and love the CVT cooper for reliability.. but i can imagine going from 380 bhp to 115 would take some adapting! crunchy frog

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Jun 10th, 2003, 03:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
Woz (Scotland) MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Scotland Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 3 Offline	I have seen other posts on Mini 2 about the CVT not being able to handle more power, which is the reason for there not being a MCS option for CVT. HTH

Jun 10th, 2003, 06:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
punkeyfunky UberGeek Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 862 Offline	"I have seen other posts on Mini 2 about the CVT not being able to handle more power, which is the reason for there not being a MCS option for CVT." Duh.... that sucks! I guess my options really are limited then. Thanks.

Jun 10th, 2003, 08:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
punkeyfunky UberGeek Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 862 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by cooper4us You have to have an automatic? Yeah - after the accident my left arm was (well, still is!) paralysed which makes driving a manual a bit tricky... Besides, only way I could keep my license was to get auto. I picked up the fastest auto I could find (modified Supra), until it got a bit too pricey to keep on the road. Then I switched to the Mini for fun and reliability. I just want to give it a bit more power... I could go the other route, and strip out as much weight as I can. Hmmm... Lee

Jun 10th, 2003, 11:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
ARitz MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Hudson,Ohio Local Time: 02:37 PM Posts: 193 Offline	You may not be able to get the JCW kit, but you can fit many other aftermarket bits.The limit of the CVT is 165hp, so you can still pack a lot of power without ruining the tranny. -Andrew

Jun 11th, 2003, 03:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
punkeyfunky UberGeek Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 862 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by ARitz ...limit of the CVT is 165hp... -Andrew That's a useful figure to know; thanks. Lee

Jun 11th, 2003, 03:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
punkeyfunky UberGeek Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 862 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by johnewald I've heard that Diamond Racing (based in CA) is working on specific CVT performance mods for release later this summer. Sounds interesting... Do you know if they have a website? Lee

Jun 11th, 2003, 04:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
Rainbow-Walker MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nottingham Local Time: 11:37 PM Posts: 182 Offline	I emailed JCW about the kit for a CVT cooper, and they said no problem !

Jun 11th, 2003, 05:02 AM	#11 (permalink)
ARitz MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Hudson,Ohio Local Time: 02:37 PM Posts: 193 Offline	Rainbow-Walker, I was sure that i had asked them and they said it was ok, thanks for double checking -Andrew

Jun 11th, 2003, 05:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
punkeyfunky UberGeek Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 862 Offline	So, am I missing something then? Are we talking about the same JCW? Or have I got things mixed up...? Here is the reply they sent to me: (their typo's, not mine) ====================== From: "John Cooper Works" <info@johncooper.co.uk> Date: Thu May 29, 2003 14:43:06 Europe/London To: <lee@punkey.net> Subject: Thanks for your email _ Unfortunatelt it is not possible to perform the conversion on the Auto Cooper sorry to dissapoint you _ Best regards JCW ====================== If this is the same place, can you please forward their email (saying no problem) to me, and I'll speak to them about it, Cheers, Lee

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Jun 11th, 2003, 05:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
punkeyfunky UberGeek Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:37 PM Posts: 862 Offline	Confusion eliminated... ============ From: "John Cooper Works" <info@johncooper.co.uk> Date: Wed Jun 11, 2003 11:18:54 Europe/London To: "Punkey" <lee@punkey.net> Subject: Re: The descision was made not to carry out the conversion for the CVT in March this year, as we have only gained warranty approval on the manual transmision. Best regards JCW ============

Jun 11th, 2003, 11:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
elmadi MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cook County,Illinois Local Time: 04:37 PM Posts: 259 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by punkeyfunky Confusion eliminated... ============ From: "John Cooper Works" <info@johncooper.co.uk> Date: Wed Jun 11, 2003 11:18:54 Europe/London To: "Punkey" <lee@punkey.net> Subject: Re: The descision was made not to carry out the conversion for the CVT in March this year, as we have only gained warranty approval on the manual transmision. Best regards JCW ============ Ummm....

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