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Spy Car · Feb 7th, 2004, 01:45 AM

Thought it might be fun to find out what brings people to the CVT.

Please choose the answer that best fits your primary reason for choosing a CVT.

AprilWhine · Feb 7th, 2004, 02:39 AM

Fuzzy prefers an automatic, but we both can drive manual.

Feb 7th, 2004, 01:44 PM

I can't answer anything in the poll.....Moved from open spaces (mountains/rural) to city. Found it a pain to have a manual in the traffic we have and not be able to fully enjoy. Decided it was time to go to an automatic, MINI is supposed to be my keeper. I love the CVT and have great fun with it, wouldn't change my decision, lots of play time has been enjoyed. But I also miss a manual....something tells me there is probably more fun around the corner with a manual when heading out to open spaces....

nonsequitur · Feb 7th, 2004, 05:59 PM

Ah, and Spy Car again brings an interesting idea to the CVT Forum!

Spookyfish · Feb 7th, 2004, 07:46 PM

An automatic is such a joy to drive. I've had my share of manuals. Getting an automatic is partly the reason of getting a new car, my MINI. I drive a lot in city traffic, but highway traffic is also dense at times. An automatic will suffice even when spirited driving is at hand. Remember >50% of Porsches are automatics.

ruthie · Feb 7th, 2004, 07:52 PM

Where's the "I have a manual and totally love it" option?

Spookyfish · Feb 7th, 2004, 07:54 PM

Oh, and we need a new Poll entry:

So why did you choose a CVT?

I have driven [yada yada yada]. And there are family members who are terrible at starting on an incline.

Spookyfish · Feb 7th, 2004, 07:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ruthie

Where's the "I have a manual and totally love it" option?

Ever heard of the NIH syndrome?

Spy Car · Feb 8th, 2004, 02:17 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by nonsequitur

Ah, and Spy Car again brings an interesting idea to the CVT Forum!

Hey thanks John.

Say, if you feel I missed any good poll options (other than Ruthie's---we'll have none of that kind of talk in here little lady

) please feel free to add or modify the poll.

Should hopefully prove interesting

ruthie · Feb 8th, 2004, 10:20 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Spookyfish

Ever heard of the NIH syndrome?

no. what's that?

Trina · Feb 8th, 2004, 10:44 AM

I can certainly drive a manual, but wanted to get a CVT because I live in San Francisco, and (I think) it's just easier to drive/park on the steep hills.

Spookyfish · Feb 8th, 2004, 08:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ruthie

Where's the "I have a manual and totally love it" option?

Ever heard of the NIH syndrome?

Quote: Originally Posted by ruthie

no. what's that?

NOT IN HERE!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

ontheroadagain · Feb 9th, 2004, 12:42 AM

Although I could have opted for choice #1, instead I clicked on the "disability" option - in my case it's not pushing in the clutch but shifting gears - bad wing - old war injury and all that.

I'm at 2,400 plus miles and have loved every bit of it!

Vanwall · Feb 9th, 2004, 06:27 AM

I can't actually find a resonse on that poll that fits my reasons, either. I'm with Trina and Spookyfish. Traffic kills a manual's allure - too much on and off the clutch. Plus hills are no joy - and even tho I still shift my other cars, I'm sold on this CVT.

BCNU,
Rob in Dago

geraldholt · Feb 9th, 2004, 02:32 PM

I've already voted, but I wanted a "Sometimes I like to shift, sometimes I don't" option. Traffic = no fun with a stick; Twisty, technical roads = love to have total control.

Just my $0.02 worth...

Spy Car · Feb 9th, 2004, 06:40 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by geraldholt

I've already voted, but I wanted a "Sometimes I like to shift, sometimes I don't" option. Traffic = no fun with a stick; Twisty, technical roads = love to have total control.

Just my $0.02 worth...

I would not be adverse to adding or changing poll options.

If there is somethig you want to suggest maybe Nonsequitur could add another option.

I kind of thought not liking to shift in traffic, or problems with hills would fall into the "I prefer autos" catagory for those who have experience with manuals...and wouldn't really be an issue for those who have never owned a manual.

But now I see the value in a "Sometimes I like to emulate the control of a manual (without actually pushing a clutch) and sometimes I just like to let the computer take over the job while I relax" option.

Actually maybe there should be two new options:

1. I used to drive manuals so now I still want to emulate the control of a manual (without actually pushing a clutch) and sometimes I just want to let the computer take over the job while I relax".

2. I used to drive standard automatics but now I want to be able to emulate the control of a manual (without actually pushing a clutch) and sometimes I just want to let the computer take over the job while I relax".

Grumbler · Feb 9th, 2004, 06:48 PM

I agree with the others, there needs to be an option..........."If it weren't for traffic, I'd own a manual"

nonsequitur · Feb 9th, 2004, 07:03 PM

OK, with Spy Car also stepping in to suggest modifying this Poll, I'll do it and reset all the entries so you can all vote again. I irresponsibily did the ruthie thing to have fun in a way that was being suggested in the thread. I won't do that again because it creates a moving target and destroys the intent by the author (Spy Car in this case). Apologies to all.

Traffic frustrations seem to be the main issue, so how about one more option like Grumbler suggested?: If it weren't for traffic, I'd own a manual.

Spy Car · Feb 9th, 2004, 07:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Grumbler

I agree with the others, there needs to be an option..........."If it weren't for traffic, I'd own a manual"

Hey, now that's short and to the point

Maybe you should be doing these poll questions...then we could all spend a lot less time "reading"

eldredjames · Feb 9th, 2004, 07:54 PM

I too would have chosen If it weren't for traffic, I'd own a manual. Really wanted an S but the thought of shifting 6 gears for 2 hours a day in LA traffic turned me around. Mileage is my main concern

View Poll Results: So why did you choose a CVT?
I have driven plenty of manuals in my life…and quite frankly I prefer driving a car with an “automatic-type” transmission…and the CVT is way better than old fashioned “slush-boxes”.	6	17.65%
While I’m not generally a fan of “automatic-type” transmissions the CVT technology is so cool that I just had to have one.	3	8.82%
While I might have preferred a manual, I have family members who are "auto only"…and sometimes life is about making reasonable compromises.	7	20.59%
I have a disability that makes pushing a clutch either impossible, or at least not very much fun.	2	5.88%
I have actually never owned a manual (don’t really know how to drive one?) so I never even considered getting anything but a CVT.	2	5.88%
I don’t know how to drive a manual, but I did/am give learning serious thought…still kind of intimidated by the whole idea.	4	11.76%
I have a manual and totally love it	2	5.88%
If it weren't for traffic, I'd own a manual.	8	23.53%
Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

Feb 7th, 2004, 02:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
AprilWhine Loves the Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gypsy Local Time: 04:12 PM Posts: 16,893 Offline	Fuzzy prefers an automatic, but we both can drive manual. Global Moderator

Feb 7th, 2004, 05:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
nonsequitur Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle area, WA Local Time: 03:12 PM Posts: 1,466 Offline	Ah, and Spy Car again brings an interesting idea to the CVT Forum! '02 MINI Cooper CVT (prod. date: 6/12/2002; Indi Blue/Black roof, R-81 7-hole 15x5.5" or NZO 16x6.5") '67 Austin Cooper S 1275 Mk1 (build date: 6/26/1967; Tartan Red/Black Roof, Minilite 10x4.5" or 10x6.0")

Feb 7th, 2004, 07:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
Spookyfish I'm probably out motoring Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Overijssel Local Time: 11:12 PM Posts: 397 Offline	An automatic is such a joy to drive. I've had my share of manuals. Getting an automatic is partly the reason of getting a new car, my MINI. I drive a lot in city traffic, but highway traffic is also dense at times. An automatic will suffice even when spirited driving is at hand. Remember >50% of Porsches are automatics. Black / Whte Cooper

Feb 7th, 2004, 07:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
ruthie tickle tickle Join Date: Feb 2003 Local Time: 05:12 PM Posts: 19,292 Offline	Where's the "I have a manual and totally love it" option? "Sunshine and Peace." - Maxamini

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Feb 7th, 2004, 01:45 AM	#1
Spy Car I miss Ruthie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of the Angels Local Time: 03:12 PM Posts: 6,359 Offline	Poll: Why did you buy (or thinking of buying) a CVT? Thought it might be fun to find out what brings people to the CVT. Please choose the answer that best fits your primary reason for choosing a CVT.

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Feb 7th, 2004, 01:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
emagineer Posts: n/a	I can't answer anything in the poll.....Moved from open spaces (mountains/rural) to city. Found it a pain to have a manual in the traffic we have and not be able to fully enjoy. Decided it was time to go to an automatic, MINI is supposed to be my keeper. I love the CVT and have great fun with it, wouldn't change my decision, lots of play time has been enjoyed. But I also miss a manual....something tells me there is probably more fun around the corner with a manual when heading out to open spaces....

Feb 7th, 2004, 07:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Spookyfish I'm probably out motoring Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Overijssel Local Time: 11:12 PM Posts: 397 Offline	Oh, and we need a new Poll entry: So why did you choose a CVT? I have driven [yada yada yada]. And there are family members who are terrible at starting on an incline. Black / Whte Cooper

Feb 7th, 2004, 07:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
Spookyfish I'm probably out motoring Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Overijssel Local Time: 11:12 PM Posts: 397 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ruthie Where's the "I have a manual and totally love it" option? Ever heard of the NIH syndrome? Black / Whte Cooper

Feb 8th, 2004, 02:17 AM	#9 (permalink)
Spy Car I miss Ruthie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of the Angels Local Time: 03:12 PM Posts: 6,359 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by nonsequitur Ah, and Spy Car again brings an interesting idea to the CVT Forum! Hey thanks John. Say, if you feel I missed any good poll options (other than Ruthie's---we'll have none of that kind of talk in here little lady ) please feel free to add or modify the poll. Should hopefully prove interesting

Feb 8th, 2004, 10:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
ruthie tickle tickle Join Date: Feb 2003 Local Time: 05:12 PM Posts: 19,292 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Spookyfish Ever heard of the NIH syndrome? no. what's that? "Sunshine and Peace." - Maxamini

Feb 8th, 2004, 10:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
Trina MINI2 Senior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco Local Time: 03:12 PM Posts: 731 Offline	I can certainly drive a manual, but wanted to get a CVT because I live in San Francisco, and (I think) it's just easier to drive/park on the steep hills.

Feb 8th, 2004, 08:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
Spookyfish I'm probably out motoring Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Overijssel Local Time: 11:12 PM Posts: 397 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ruthie Where's the "I have a manual and totally love it" option? Ever heard of the NIH syndrome? Quote: Originally Posted by ruthie no. what's that? NOT IN HERE! Sorry, couldn't resist. Black / Whte Cooper

Feb 9th, 2004, 12:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
ontheroadagain MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: near Playland Local Time: 06:12 PM Posts: 1,793 Offline	Although I could have opted for choice #1, instead I clicked on the "disability" option - in my case it's not pushing in the clutch but shifting gears - bad wing - old war injury and all that. I'm at 2,400 plus miles and have loved every bit of it! First love: MC CVT Indi Blue/White '04 Past MINI: MC CVT PW/Black '06 Present MINI: MCa Clubman BRG/BLK '08

Feb 9th, 2004, 06:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
Vanwall Fershluginer Potrezibie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Local Time: 03:12 PM Posts: 328 Offline	I can't actually find a resonse on that poll that fits my reasons, either. I'm with Trina and Spookyfish. Traffic kills a manual's allure - too much on and off the clutch. Plus hills are no joy - and even tho I still shift my other cars, I'm sold on this CVT. BCNU, Rob in Dago Brooksie, the 2002 BRG & W Cooper, lets me sit in the drivers seat sometimes.

Feb 9th, 2004, 02:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
geraldholt MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Local Time: 05:12 PM Posts: 19 Offline	Another poll option?? I've already voted, but I wanted a "Sometimes I like to shift, sometimes I don't" option. Traffic = no fun with a stick; Twisty, technical roads = love to have total control. Just my $0.02 worth... -- Thanks for reading! --

Feb 9th, 2004, 06:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
Spy Car I miss Ruthie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of the Angels Local Time: 03:12 PM Posts: 6,359 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by geraldholt I've already voted, but I wanted a "Sometimes I like to shift, sometimes I don't" option. Traffic = no fun with a stick; Twisty, technical roads = love to have total control. Just my $0.02 worth... I would not be adverse to adding or changing poll options. If there is somethig you want to suggest maybe Nonsequitur could add another option. I kind of thought not liking to shift in traffic, or problems with hills would fall into the "I prefer autos" catagory for those who have experience with manuals...and wouldn't really be an issue for those who have never owned a manual. But now I see the value in a "Sometimes I like to emulate the control of a manual (without actually pushing a clutch) and sometimes I just like to let the computer take over the job while I relax" option. Actually maybe there should be two new options: 1. I used to drive manuals so now I still want to emulate the control of a manual (without actually pushing a clutch) and sometimes I just want to let the computer take over the job while I relax". 2. I used to drive standard automatics but now I want to be able to emulate the control of a manual (without actually pushing a clutch) and sometimes I just want to let the computer take over the job while I relax".

Feb 9th, 2004, 06:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
Grumbler MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kent Island Local Time: 06:12 PM Posts: 310 Offline	I agree with the others, there needs to be an option..........."If it weren't for traffic, I'd own a manual" .......hey you kids, get off the road..............

Feb 9th, 2004, 07:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
nonsequitur Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle area, WA Local Time: 03:12 PM Posts: 1,466 Offline	OK, with Spy Car also stepping in to suggest modifying this Poll, I'll do it and reset all the entries so you can all vote again. I irresponsibily did the ruthie thing to have fun in a way that was being suggested in the thread. I won't do that again because it creates a moving target and destroys the intent by the author (Spy Car in this case). Apologies to all. Traffic frustrations seem to be the main issue, so how about one more option like Grumbler suggested?: If it weren't for traffic, I'd own a manual. '02 MINI Cooper CVT (prod. date: 6/12/2002; Indi Blue/Black roof, R-81 7-hole 15x5.5" or NZO 16x6.5") '67 Austin Cooper S 1275 Mk1 (build date: 6/26/1967; Tartan Red/Black Roof, Minilite 10x4.5" or 10x6.0")

Feb 9th, 2004, 07:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
Spy Car I miss Ruthie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of the Angels Local Time: 03:12 PM Posts: 6,359 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Grumbler I agree with the others, there needs to be an option..........."If it weren't for traffic, I'd own a manual" Hey, now that's short and to the point Maybe you should be doing these poll questions...then we could all spend a lot less time "reading"

Feb 9th, 2004, 07:54 PM	#20 (permalink)
eldredjames CVT Driver Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 02:12 PM Posts: 31 Offline	I too would have chosen If it weren't for traffic, I'd own a manual. Really wanted an S but the thought of shifting 6 gears for 2 hours a day in LA traffic turned me around. Mileage is my main concern

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