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996T · Jan 26th, 2005, 06:49 PM

My wife and I are interested in ordering a PW Cooper S Steptronic, loaded to about $30k with every option. The local dealers wouldn't budge on pricing, but if I drive a couple hours, a dealership is willing to give me $500 off. Is that pretty typical of what you guys are getting for discounts?

Thanks,
Stephen
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lukebuzzy · Jan 26th, 2005, 06:54 PM

Discounts are pretty much unheard of. $500 of msrp is a steal.

996T · Jan 26th, 2005, 07:01 PM

Wow... I had no idea... these little buggers command a premium, huh. Thanks for the feedback.

I drove my ex-biz partner's MCS the other day with the full Works package and Eibach suspension... what a fun ride... reminded me of the days when I had a Miata. I'm definitely looking forward to Mini-ownership.

Great forum, looking forward to contributing...
Stephen
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996T · Jan 26th, 2005, 07:04 PM

PS. Is it confirmed that the Limited Slip is not avail with the steptronic... that sucks, especially considering that Mini will probably randomly decide to give it to us next year!

AprilWhine · Jan 26th, 2005, 07:20 PM

Anything below MSRP is a very good deal. Congrats!

cooper_s_flyer · Jan 26th, 2005, 07:58 PM

Have not heard of any discounts... just free floor mats or other such pittances offered.

Kellzir · Jan 26th, 2005, 08:56 PM

That sounds good to me. The best thing I can find is @ MSRP.

MyWiniCooper · Jan 26th, 2005, 09:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kellzir

That sounds good to me. The best thing I can find is @ MSRP.

you can get it at msrp in the bay area? if you're talking about east bay mini, their waiting list is rediculous!

sjbartnik · Jan 27th, 2005, 02:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 996T

My wife and I are interested in ordering a PW Cooper S Steptronic, loaded to about $30k with every option. The local dealers wouldn't budge on pricing, but if I drive a couple hours, a dealership is willing to give me $500 off. Is that pretty typical of what you guys are getting for discounts?

Thanks,
Stephen
1stephen1.com

Stephen,
Dealers aren't discounting off MSRP so when you hear a quote like "$500 off MSRP" you have to make sure they aren't marking something up somewhere along the way just to say they are marking it down later. Make sure you are aware ahead of time of all the terms such as any "forced options," or any other fees or things applied to the car that they can then "discount" to give you the illusion of a deal.

Nobody discounts Cooper S's so when I hear that offer I naturally get a little suspicious.

stryder · Jan 27th, 2005, 11:56 AM

You also need to account for the goodwill 'lost' by not buying from the dealer you're going to get service from. If sjbartnik's point isn't true, and its a real discount, then just be sure everything's happy and good.

Otherwise, some dealers can be not as nice to outside customers - things like loaner cars are provided by the dealership, not by MINI, so its up to the dealer if they give one to you or not. Probably not worth losing a $500 discount over, but just something to keep in mind.

Kellzir · Jan 29th, 2005, 05:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MyWiniCooper

you can get it at msrp in the bay area? if you're talking about east bay mini, their waiting list is rediculous!

Yea East Bay Mini has a 12 month wait. But I decided to get it from South Bay Mini (torrance) and just drive it home.

996T · Feb 6th, 2005, 09:46 AM

Well... went to my local dealership, and ordered a fully loaded Pepper White... $30k is a lot of money for a Mini, but I can already tell it's going to be a great addition to our car experience. And I was able to get $500 off msrp along with free floor mats. The sales person told me that they just about never give discounts, so I felt very fortunate to have negotiated the deal. Had it all worked out over the phone before ever showing up. It'll be an early March-build... really looking forward to it!

I did get a chance to testdrive a newly unloaded Steptronic... much happier with the power of the S. Tranny felt tight. Handling was tight despite not having the performance package. Awesome car!

Stephen
1stephen1.com

Cooper76 · Feb 6th, 2005, 09:04 PM

Perhaps they were inclined to give you $500 off because you were speccing one out to $30k, which is also on the rare side.

However, are you really sure you received $500 off?! Like stryder mentioned, make sure they didn't add it in elsewhere. What was your doc fee?! Hopefully not over $500!!!

996T · Feb 6th, 2005, 09:58 PM

No... everything is legit. I go through a lot of cars, and am very familiar with car purchasing. In fact, my ex biz partner also got $500 off for his S from a dealership in FL.

Cooper76 · Feb 14th, 2005, 07:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 996T

No... everything is legit. I go through a lot of cars, and am very familiar with car purchasing. In fact, my ex biz partner also got $500 off for his S from a dealership in FL.

You guys in the mafia or what??!?!

996T · Mar 1st, 2005, 09:07 AM

I wish... LOL...

Jan 26th, 2005, 06:49 PM	#1
996T MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Local Time: 01:07 PM Posts: 7 Offline	Is $500 off msrp a good deal? My wife and I are interested in ordering a PW Cooper S Steptronic, loaded to about $30k with every option. The local dealers wouldn't budge on pricing, but if I drive a couple hours, a dealership is willing to give me $500 off. Is that pretty typical of what you guys are getting for discounts? Thanks, Stephen 1stephen1.com

Jan 26th, 2005, 06:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
lukebuzzy Motoring since 8/4/04 :) Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 07:07 PM Posts: 553 Offline	Discounts are pretty much unheard of. $500 of msrp is a steal. UK Expat - Oi Oi 2005 DS/DS MCS

Jan 26th, 2005, 07:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
AprilWhine Loves the Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gypsy Local Time: 01:07 PM Posts: 16,078 Offline	Anything below MSRP is a very good deal. Congrats! Global Moderator

Jan 26th, 2005, 07:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
cooper_s_flyer Carpe Diem Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Local Time: 02:07 PM Posts: 321 Offline	Take it... Have not heard of any discounts... just free floor mats or other such pittances offered. *It is not how fast you go, but how* you go.**

Jan 27th, 2005, 02:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
sjbartnik MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Local Time: 03:07 PM Posts: 628 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 996T My wife and I are interested in ordering a PW Cooper S Steptronic, loaded to about $30k with every option. The local dealers wouldn't budge on pricing, but if I drive a couple hours, a dealership is willing to give me $500 off. Is that pretty typical of what you guys are getting for discounts? Thanks, Stephen 1stephen1.com Stephen, Dealers aren't discounting off MSRP so when you hear a quote like "$500 off MSRP" you have to make sure they aren't marking something up somewhere along the way just to say they are marking it down later. Make sure you are aware ahead of time of all the terms such as any "forced options," or any other fees or things applied to the car that they can then "discount" to give you the illusion of a deal. Nobody discounts Cooper S's so when I hear that offer I naturally get a little suspicious. Sean Bartnik 2003 MINI Cooper S

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Jan 26th, 2005, 07:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
996T MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Local Time: 01:07 PM Posts: 7 Offline	Wow... I had no idea... these little buggers command a premium, huh. Thanks for the feedback. I drove my ex-biz partner's MCS the other day with the full Works package and Eibach suspension... what a fun ride... reminded me of the days when I had a Miata. I'm definitely looking forward to Mini-ownership. Great forum, looking forward to contributing... Stephen 1stephen1.com

Jan 26th, 2005, 07:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
996T MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Local Time: 01:07 PM Posts: 7 Offline	PS. Is it confirmed that the Limited Slip is not avail with the steptronic... that sucks, especially considering that Mini will probably randomly decide to give it to us next year!

Jan 26th, 2005, 08:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
Kellzir MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Local Time: 11:07 AM Posts: 256 Offline	That sounds good to me. The best thing I can find is @ MSRP.

Jan 26th, 2005, 09:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
MyWiniCooper Another Happy Owner Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bay Area, Ca Local Time: 11:07 AM Posts: 207 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Kellzir That sounds good to me. The best thing I can find is @ MSRP. you can get it at msrp in the bay area? if you're talking about east bay mini, their waiting list is rediculous!

Jan 27th, 2005, 11:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
stryder Sponsor/Moderator/Other Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland Local Time: 02:07 PM Posts: 3,267 Offline	You also need to account for the goodwill 'lost' by not buying from the dealer you're going to get service from. If sjbartnik's point isn't true, and its a real discount, then just be sure everything's happy and good. Otherwise, some dealers can be not as nice to outside customers - things like loaner cars are provided by the dealership, not by MINI, so its up to the dealer if they give one to you or not. Probably not worth losing a $500 discount over, but just something to keep in mind. Magic 8-ball was correct. All be in awe of Magic 8 ball.

Jan 29th, 2005, 05:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
Kellzir MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Local Time: 11:07 AM Posts: 256 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MyWiniCooper you can get it at msrp in the bay area? if you're talking about east bay mini, their waiting list is rediculous! Yea East Bay Mini has a 12 month wait. But I decided to get it from South Bay Mini (torrance) and just drive it home.

Feb 6th, 2005, 09:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
996T MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Local Time: 01:07 PM Posts: 7 Offline	Well... went to my local dealership, and ordered a fully loaded Pepper White... $30k is a lot of money for a Mini, but I can already tell it's going to be a great addition to our car experience. And I was able to get $500 off msrp along with free floor mats. The sales person told me that they just about never give discounts, so I felt very fortunate to have negotiated the deal. Had it all worked out over the phone before ever showing up. It'll be an early March-build... really looking forward to it! I did get a chance to testdrive a newly unloaded Steptronic... much happier with the power of the S. Tranny felt tight. Handling was tight despite not having the performance package. Awesome car! Stephen 1stephen1.com

Feb 6th, 2005, 09:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cooper76 MotorCityMadman Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Motown Local Time: 03:07 PM Posts: 3,801 Offline	Perhaps they were inclined to give you $500 off because you were speccing one out to $30k, which is also on the rare side. However, are you really sure you received $500 off?! Like stryder mentioned, make sure they didn't add it in elsewhere. What was your doc fee?! Hopefully not over $500!!! *BMW-AG Rocks!!!* Portsmouth FC Can Thank Sunderland...What a Farce!!!

Feb 6th, 2005, 09:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
996T MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Local Time: 01:07 PM Posts: 7 Offline	No... everything is legit. I go through a lot of cars, and am very familiar with car purchasing. In fact, my ex biz partner also got $500 off for his S from a dealership in FL.

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Feb 14th, 2005, 07:12 AM	#15 (permalink)
Cooper76 MotorCityMadman Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Motown Local Time: 03:07 PM Posts: 3,801 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 996T No... everything is legit. I go through a lot of cars, and am very familiar with car purchasing. In fact, my ex biz partner also got $500 off for his S from a dealership in FL. You guys in the mafia or what??!?! *BMW-AG Rocks!!!* Portsmouth FC Can Thank Sunderland...What a Farce!!!

Mar 1st, 2005, 09:07 AM	#16 (permalink)
996T MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Local Time: 01:07 PM Posts: 7 Offline	I wish... LOL...

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