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newyorkcitymini · Oct 10th, 2005, 10:32 PM

please report in!

Quote: Originally Posted by Cooper76

I am going to the dealer shortly. I'll see what they say. (not expecting much...hahaha...)

niggelig · Oct 30th, 2005, 03:47 PM

now its beginning november 2005.
anything new ?

Jo-Man · Nov 1st, 2005, 03:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by niggelig

now its beginning november 2005.
anything new ?

oh dear, still nothing for the US market???

or is it just no one bother to go and find out?!?!

cos it is for sure, as i said before, they are selling the kit here in the UK...
and i have test drive it some times ago....

you can even find a second hand one on JC web site now!!!

mini cooper s works 210 Auto
2005(55)
Chilli red/white roof & mirror caps, Chilli pack, auto transmission (6 speed), optional paddle shift, black cloth/leather seats, multi function steering wheel, panoramic sun roof, chrome line interior, anthracite roof lining, chrono pack, white bonnet stripes, radio boost, single cd player, TLC. 1 owner.3000 miles.
£19,995

beekman · Nov 1st, 2005, 02:59 PM

[quote=and i have test drive it some times ago....

[/QUOTE]

so what was it like to drive?

newyorkcitymini · Nov 1st, 2005, 05:00 PM

this is so absolutely frustrating - i am starting to wonder if it's ever coming out...

Jo-Man · Nov 1st, 2005, 05:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by beekman

so what was it like to drive?

well.... i only have around 10 mins, so i go straight to the dual carriageway for a quick spin...
first of all.... i am not sure if you have drive a manual JCW before? if not, then i have to remind u, a lot of ppl think getting the work kit mean a much faster car, if that's the case... then u will be disappointed for sure....
(here is an example!!! http://www.mini2.com/forum/general-discussion/97150-first-john-cooper-works-experience.html)
it is fairly similar to the manual..... the acceleration is brilliant.... the gear change much smoother then my S auto..... the gear ratio n the software help as well as the kit i believe.....
but the sound is not a great as the manual...... (that's how i feel anyway, or maybe it's a demo car only.... u'll have to switch to SD or manual for better sound)

from my point of view, the main differents are...
1) i feel the work car is much smother when accelerating, respond is better as well, great for overtaking for sure!!!
2) can feel the car still wanna go on when i was doing 110miles/hr, but when i am doing 110m/h on my stock mcsa... i can feel the car need to work hard
3) the sound is not as good as the manual work... specially inside the car... but if u step on it... then it still sound great!!!

hope this help...

Jo-Man · Nov 1st, 2005, 05:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by newyorkcitymini

this is so absolutely frustrating - i am starting to wonder if it's ever coming out...

have u try to go n find out anything from ur dealer Drew??? or can u send an email to miniusa or something to find out???

Ferroequine · Nov 1st, 2005, 07:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jo-Man

3) the sound is not as good as the manual work... specially inside the car... but if u step on it... then it still sound great!!!

I've seen this referred to on MotoringFile as well, and it confuses me somewhat; how can the sound on the MCSa be different than on the MCS? Is it not the same exhaust system?

GBMINI · Nov 1st, 2005, 09:01 PM

My dealership will notify me immediately when (if ever) an announcement is made in USA ... none has happened.

newyorkcitymini · Nov 2nd, 2005, 12:13 AM

my dealership also has me down as #1 on the list for whenever it appears. they have even put in call to mini for me - hopefully some of the higher ups will get some info down to us hungry mcsa folks!

honestly though - what could be taking so long...?

Roofas · Dec 8th, 2005, 12:37 PM

Apparently it's all official now.

http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/335/

Koala · Dec 8th, 2005, 12:47 PM

Just done the upgrade yesterday!

newyorkcitymini · Dec 8th, 2005, 02:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Koala

Just done the upgrade yesterday!

A review...PLEASE!

GBMINI · Dec 9th, 2005, 01:25 AM

Only 203, not 210? And still not announced in USA

MrT-Man · Dec 9th, 2005, 01:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Koala

Just done the upgrade yesterday!

How many hours of labor did they charge you for?

beekman · Dec 9th, 2005, 02:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GBMINI

Only 203, not 210? And still not announced in USA

the JCW MCS manual makes 210 bhp at 6950 rpm, whereas the JCW MCSa supposedly makes 203 bhp at 6450 rpm - I reckon loss of the 7 bhp is due to the fact that the transmission is programmed to shift up at 6450 rpm. someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the JCW software raise the rev limit for the manual? this probably isn't possible on the MCSa without revised transmission software . . .

Paul · Dec 9th, 2005, 02:34 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Roofas

Apparently it's all official now.

http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/335/

Ahem:

7th December 2005: MINI Cooper S Auto gets tuned on

MINI UK release details of the John Cooper Works Tuning Kit for the MINI Cooper S Auto.

Ferroequine · Dec 9th, 2005, 03:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Ahem:

7th December 2005: MINI Cooper S Auto gets tuned on

Hey, reading that article, it states that the MCSa's Aisin transmission has a limited slip differential! That's the first time I've heard of that.

Roofas · Dec 9th, 2005, 03:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Ahem:

7th December 2005: MINI Cooper S Auto gets tuned on

MINI UK release details of the John Cooper Works Tuning Kit for the MINI Cooper S Auto.

ooooooooooopppppppppppps!

AprilWhine · Dec 9th, 2005, 09:54 PM

Cool, thanks Paul.

Oct 10th, 2005, 10:32 PM	#81
newyorkcitymini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York , NY Local Time: 03:07 PM Posts: 86 Offline	please report in! Quote: Originally Posted by Cooper76 I am going to the dealer shortly. I'll see what they say. (not expecting much...hahaha...) 2005 MCSa BRG/W

Nov 1st, 2005, 05:00 PM	#85 (permalink)
newyorkcitymini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York , NY Local Time: 03:07 PM Posts: 86 Offline	this is so absolutely frustrating - i am starting to wonder if it's ever coming out... 2005 MCSa BRG/W

Nov 1st, 2005, 09:01 PM	#89 (permalink)
GBMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gloucester, MA, USA Local Time: 02:07 PM Posts: 7,601 Offline	My dealership will notify me immediately when (if ever) an announcement is made in USA ... none has happened. Ian C. Gloucester, MA, USA (UK expat) driving GPMINI and Convertible GBMINI#6

Nov 2nd, 2005, 12:13 AM	#90 (permalink)
newyorkcitymini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York , NY Local Time: 03:07 PM Posts: 86 Offline	my dealership also has me down as #1 on the list for whenever it appears. they have even put in call to mini for me - hopefully some of the higher ups will get some info down to us hungry mcsa folks! honestly though - what could be taking so long...? 2005 MCSa BRG/W

Dec 8th, 2005, 12:37 PM	#91 (permalink)
Roofas Going Japanese..... My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Luton (pron: Loo'un) Local Time: 07:07 PM Posts: 732 Offline	Apparently it's all official now. http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/335/ Lies need defending all the time. The truth defends itself.

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Oct 30th, 2005, 03:47 PM	#82 (permalink)
niggelig MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Local Time: 07:07 PM Posts: 6 Offline	now its beginning november 2005. anything new ?

Nov 1st, 2005, 03:18 AM	#83 (permalink)
Jo-Man Jo-Man & White Dolphin Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sussex Local Time: 08:07 PM Posts: 217 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by niggelig now its beginning november 2005. anything new ? oh dear, still nothing for the US market??? or is it just no one bother to go and find out?!?! cos it is for sure, as i said before, they are selling the kit here in the UK... and i have test drive it some times ago.... you can even find a second hand one on JC web site now!!! mini cooper s works 210 Auto 2005(55) Chilli red/white roof & mirror caps, Chilli pack, auto transmission (6 speed), optional paddle shift, black cloth/leather seats, multi function steering wheel, panoramic sun roof, chrome line interior, anthracite roof lining, chrono pack, white bonnet stripes, radio boost, single cd player, TLC. 1 owner.3000 miles. £19,995

Nov 1st, 2005, 02:59 PM	#84 (permalink)
beekman MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 03:07 PM Posts: 72 Offline	[quote=and i have test drive it some times ago.... [/QUOTE] so what was it like to drive?

Nov 1st, 2005, 05:17 PM	#86 (permalink)
Jo-Man Jo-Man & White Dolphin Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sussex Local Time: 08:07 PM Posts: 217 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by beekman so what was it like to drive? well.... i only have around 10 mins, so i go straight to the dual carriageway for a quick spin... first of all.... i am not sure if you have drive a manual JCW before? if not, then i have to remind u, a lot of ppl think getting the work kit mean a much faster car, if that's the case... then u will be disappointed for sure.... (here is an example!!! http://www.mini2.com/forum/general-discussion/97150-first-john-cooper-works-experience.html) it is fairly similar to the manual..... the acceleration is brilliant.... the gear change much smoother then my S auto..... the gear ratio n the software help as well as the kit i believe..... but the sound is not a great as the manual...... (that's how i feel anyway, or maybe it's a demo car only.... u'll have to switch to SD or manual for better sound) from my point of view, the main differents are... 1) i feel the work car is much smother when accelerating, respond is better as well, great for overtaking for sure!!! 2) can feel the car still wanna go on when i was doing 110miles/hr, but when i am doing 110m/h on my stock mcsa... i can feel the car need to work hard 3) the sound is not as good as the manual work... specially inside the car... but if u step on it... then it still sound great!!! hope this help...

Nov 1st, 2005, 05:26 PM	#87 (permalink)
Jo-Man Jo-Man & White Dolphin Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sussex Local Time: 08:07 PM Posts: 217 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by newyorkcitymini this is so absolutely frustrating - i am starting to wonder if it's ever coming out... have u try to go n find out anything from ur dealer Drew??? or can u send an email to miniusa or something to find out???

Nov 1st, 2005, 07:08 PM	#88 (permalink)
Ferroequine Formerly known as MiniVee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Calgary Local Time: 12:07 PM Posts: 1,320 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Jo-Man 3) the sound is not as good as the manual work... specially inside the car... but if u step on it... then it still sound great!!! I've seen this referred to on MotoringFile as well, and it confuses me somewhat; how can the sound on the MCSa be different than on the MCS? Is it not the same exhaust system?

Dec 8th, 2005, 12:47 PM	#92 (permalink)
Koala MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Local Time: 07:07 PM Posts: 3 Offline	Just done the upgrade yesterday!

Dec 8th, 2005, 02:14 PM	#93 (permalink)
newyorkcitymini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York , NY Local Time: 03:07 PM Posts: 86 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Koala Just done the upgrade yesterday! A review...PLEASE! 2005 MCSa BRG/W

Dec 9th, 2005, 01:25 AM	#94 (permalink)
GBMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gloucester, MA, USA Local Time: 02:07 PM Posts: 7,601 Offline	Only 203, not 210? And still not announced in USA Ian C. Gloucester, MA, USA (UK expat) driving GPMINI and Convertible GBMINI#6

Dec 9th, 2005, 01:33 AM	#95 (permalink)
MrT-Man MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Local Time: 03:07 PM Posts: 51 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Koala Just done the upgrade yesterday! How many hours of labor did they charge you for?

Dec 9th, 2005, 02:23 AM	#96 (permalink)
beekman MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 03:07 PM Posts: 72 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GBMINI Only 203, not 210? And still not announced in USA the JCW MCS manual makes 210 bhp at 6950 rpm, whereas the JCW MCSa supposedly makes 203 bhp at 6450 rpm - I reckon loss of the 7 bhp is due to the fact that the transmission is programmed to shift up at 6450 rpm. someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the JCW software raise the rev limit for the manual? this probably isn't possible on the MCSa without revised transmission software . . .

Dec 9th, 2005, 02:34 AM	#97 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 07:07 PM Posts: 40,352 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by Roofas Apparently it's all official now. http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/335/ Ahem: 7th December 2005: MINI Cooper S Auto gets tuned on MINI UK release details of the John Cooper Works Tuning Kit for the MINI Cooper S Auto. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Dec 9th, 2005, 03:15 AM	#98 (permalink)
Ferroequine Formerly known as MiniVee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Calgary Local Time: 12:07 PM Posts: 1,320 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett Ahem: 7th December 2005: MINI Cooper S Auto gets tuned on Hey, reading that article, it states that the MCSa's Aisin transmission has a limited slip differential! That's the first time I've heard of that.

Dec 9th, 2005, 03:30 PM	#99 (permalink)
Roofas Going Japanese..... My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Luton (pron: Loo'un) Local Time: 07:07 PM Posts: 732 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett Ahem: 7th December 2005: MINI Cooper S Auto gets tuned on MINI UK release details of the John Cooper Works Tuning Kit for the MINI Cooper S Auto. ooooooooooopppppppppppps! Lies need defending all the time. The truth defends itself.

Dec 9th, 2005, 09:54 PM	#100 (permalink)
AprilWhine Loves the Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gypsy Local Time: 01:07 PM Posts: 16,078 Offline	Cool, thanks Paul. Global Moderator

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