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Ferroequine · Dec 13th, 2005, 05:42 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Koala

Just done the upgrade yesterday!

So can you give us a review yet, or are you too busy playing with the new toy?

Ferroequine · Jan 30th, 2006, 10:55 PM

Bump.

Any updates on this?

newyorkcitymini, you got yours yet? IIRC, you already had the airbox & exhaust fitted, correct?

newyorkcitymini · Jan 31st, 2006, 08:47 PM

it's a total mystery.... i've just about given up all hope here....sadly.

mini has gone silent on the subject. nobody has any info. i've even begun to consider an aftermarket pulley upgrade from randy webb - if it makes any real difference.

i've really enjoyed the jcw exhaust and air box combo - makes the car livlier for sure - but finishing off the kit is the clearly the goal. why mini seems to have completely abandoned us on this i just don't know...

anyone?

- drew

PPE · May 18th, 2006, 07:04 AM

Any news on the JCW automatic release for Australia anyone?

Ferroequine · May 24th, 2006, 05:55 PM

I've finally discovered why the MCSa kit is not available in the States (and in Canada, I'd guess).

It is to do with the kit not meeting emission standards in some of the states. I found this little tidbit in an interview that Motoringfile did with the MINI product manager from MINI USA.

Quote: Originally Posted by MotoringFile Interview

MF: Will the JCW kit for the MCSA ever be released in the US?

Stracco: Blocked! Sorry to say, but after trying and trying, and trying some more, we still can’t get the JCW Automatic kit to meet certain US emission standards. So it’s not available right now. I know that this has been frustrating for some, but none have been more frustrated than Thomas, our Aftersales Development manager.

Read the rest of the interview here.

So now comes the next loaded question: how can the regular JCW kit meet emission requirements for all 50 states, but the same JCW kit adapted to the MCSa cannot?

I can't see too much difference aside from the ECU remap. This is now the next mystery to uncover....

Damo · May 24th, 2006, 08:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniVee

I've finally discovered why the MCSa kit is not available in the States (and in Canada, I'd guess).

It is to do with the kit not meeting emission standards in some of the states. I found this little tidbit in an interview that Motoringfile did with the MINI product manager from MINI USA.

Read the rest of the interview here.

So now comes the next loaded question: how can the regular JCW kit meet emission requirements for all 50 states, but the same JCW kit adapted to the MCSa cannot?

I can't see too much difference aside from the ECU remap. This is now the next mystery to uncover....

Not sure if emissions are quoted in the US/Canada etc, but here in the UK the CO2 emissions effect the car tax amount.

According to the UK MINI site, the CO2 emissions for an S are 207 g/km but for the Automatic its 216 g/km

Now the JCW website doesn't have 1 CO2 figure to compare off, it has 3

I'm sure someone will be able to advise which one to go off of. But it has...
Urban 281 g/km
Extra Urban 163 g/km
Combined 207 g/km

So if they compare the Combined hen there is no difference between S and JCW S as far as Tax in the UK is confirmed.

But lets say in the US they go off of the Urban one to pass, and 281 g/km passes. If look at percentage increase of the Automatic 216/207 * 281 = 293. Maybe 293 pushes it over the edge.

Im sure is much more complicated than that, and i suspect the CO2 emissions will deterioate exponetially Urban wise for the automatic.

Jan 31st, 2006, 08:47 PM	#103 (permalink)
newyorkcitymini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York , NY Local Time: 03:07 PM Posts: 86 Offline	it's a total mystery.... i've just about given up all hope here....sadly. mini has gone silent on the subject. nobody has any info. i've even begun to consider an aftermarket pulley upgrade from randy webb - if it makes any real difference. i've really enjoyed the jcw exhaust and air box combo - makes the car livlier for sure - but finishing off the kit is the clearly the goal. why mini seems to have completely abandoned us on this i just don't know... anyone? - drew 2005 MCSa BRG/W

May 24th, 2006, 05:55 PM	#105 (permalink)
Ferroequine Formerly known as MiniVee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Calgary Local Time: 12:07 PM Posts: 1,320 Offline	JCW Kit for the MCSa I've finally discovered why the MCSa kit is not available in the States (and in Canada, I'd guess). It is to do with the kit not meeting emission standards in some of the states. I found this little tidbit in an interview that Motoringfile did with the MINI product manager from MINI USA. Quote: Originally Posted by MotoringFile Interview MF: Will the JCW kit for the MCSA ever be released in the US? Stracco: Blocked! Sorry to say, but after trying and trying, and trying some more, we still can’t get the JCW Automatic kit to meet certain US emission standards. So it’s not available right now. I know that this has been frustrating for some, but none have been more frustrated than Thomas, our Aftersales Development manager. Read the rest of the interview here. So now comes the next loaded question: how can the regular JCW kit meet emission requirements for all 50 states, but the same JCW kit adapted to the MCSa cannot? I can't see too much difference aside from the ECU remap. This is now the next mystery to uncover.... www.MINICalgary.com

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Jan 30th, 2006, 10:55 PM	#102 (permalink)
Ferroequine Formerly known as MiniVee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Calgary Local Time: 12:07 PM Posts: 1,320 Offline	Bump. Any updates on this? newyorkcitymini, you got yours yet? IIRC, you already had the airbox & exhaust fitted, correct?

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PPE Painting the town purple Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Western Sydney Local Time: 06:07 AM Posts: 592 Offline	Any news on the JCW automatic release for Australia anyone?

May 24th, 2006, 08:23 PM	#106 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 07:07 PM Posts: 10,526 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniVee I've finally discovered why the MCSa kit is not available in the States (and in Canada, I'd guess). It is to do with the kit not meeting emission standards in some of the states. I found this little tidbit in an interview that Motoringfile did with the MINI product manager from MINI USA. Read the rest of the interview here. So now comes the next loaded question: how can the regular JCW kit meet emission requirements for all 50 states, but the same JCW kit adapted to the MCSa cannot? I can't see too much difference aside from the ECU remap. This is now the next mystery to uncover.... Not sure if emissions are quoted in the US/Canada etc, but here in the UK the CO2 emissions effect the car tax amount. According to the UK MINI site, the CO2 emissions for an S are 207 g/km but for the Automatic its 216 g/km Now the JCW website doesn't have 1 CO2 figure to compare off, it has 3 I'm sure someone will be able to advise which one to go off of. But it has... Urban 281 g/km Extra Urban 163 g/km Combined 207 g/km So if they compare the Combined hen there is no difference between S and JCW S as far as Tax in the UK is confirmed. But lets say in the US they go off of the Urban one to pass, and 281 g/km passes. If look at percentage increase of the Automatic 216/207 * 281 = 293. Maybe 293 pushes it over the edge. Im sure is much more complicated than that, and i suspect the CO2 emissions will deterioate exponetially Urban wise for the automatic.

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