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cdrober · Jun 30th, 2002, 01:38 AM

Hello everyone. I currently have only have a deposit for an MCS at one dealership(Baron MINI in Kansas, it is only 1 hour away from where I live). They told me 9-12 Months, so April-June 2002 for delivery. Has anyone here found a good dealership, I am willing to fly anywhere in the US to get my S sooner. I do not want to pay more than MSRP, although MUST BUY OPTIONS might be ok depending on what they are, Baron makes you buy $1000 dollars worth of stuff including the CD Changer. I also want to spec it myself. I know I am asking for alot, maybe even the impossible, but any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks alot for just reading this post.

shkeller55 · Jun 30th, 2002, 02:01 AM

Hank Aaron in Atlanta supposedly sells for MSRP but there's also supposedly a similarly-long wait. I've heard the Memphis dealership is good. You might want to check www.minicooperonline.com - it's a U.S.-based forum and there's a thread(s) on it concerning this subject.

erazo · Jun 30th, 2002, 02:03 AM

Your experience is fairly typical, based on what I've read. The wait time especially is not atypical. Demand is much higher than supply, and dealers have no control over supply. The dealer will naturally try to cater to those with less patience, as they can be expected to pay more.

But if you're willing to wait, you should resist the unwanted dealer options if you have no need for them. In most cases, the dealer will acquiesce if you follow the three P's: polite, persistent and patient.

BruceK · Jun 30th, 2002, 02:42 AM

cdrober, don't delay, read this thread immediately!

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=10116

It may help you out if you don't want to wait for a Cooper S.

Keith · Jun 30th, 2002, 07:12 AM

I think Braman in Miami may get you in an S fater if you are willinig to take some extras. This gives my experiences with them : http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...&threadid=9373

AprilWhine · Jun 30th, 2002, 07:33 AM

Checkered Flag, in Virginia Beach, VA, has a very short waiting list for an MCS. Bad news is that, although they do charge MSRP, there is a dealer required option package for a cost of $1700. It's for things like CD changer, alarm system, floor mats, etc. They also add $350 to your price for dealer service.

Good news is that they have plenty of cars, and the manager, Richard, is very nice and will keep his word on a deal.

Gary Tate · Jun 30th, 2002, 07:59 AM

Roadshow Mini in Memphis TN is selling at MSRP. I am not sure what the wait is if you spec a car. They also have cars avaialbe with dealer add ons. CD Changer, mats and valve stem covers for example.

Nice people to deal with.

901 365 2584 ask for Dorian Geraci, new salesperson
nice too

Pamlico · Jun 30th, 2002, 11:13 AM

You might try Towne Mini in Buffalo, NY. I signed up on "The List" before they opened so my mid-June ordered S is expected in mid-August. I've heard of others ordering from Towne with a reasonable wait.

They sell at MSRP but do add a $595 "TLC Package" consisting of floor mats (choice of rubber or cloth), paint sealant, hand wax job, and a few other little goodies.

Esay to deal with, no problems. The salesperson I'm dealing with (Doug) responds quickly to emails, etc.

Good luck.

BruceK · Jun 30th, 2002, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pamlico
You might try Towne Mini in Buffalo, NY. ....They sell at MSRP but do add a $595 "TLC Package" consisting of floor mats (choice of rubber or cloth), paint sealant, hand wax job, and a few other little goodies...

Based upon the Cooper S that Car and Driver magazine tested in the latest issue (which was sourced from Towne), they also add a crappy dealer emblem sticker on the back too.

Pamlico · Jun 30th, 2002, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BruceK

Based upon the Cooper S that Car and Driver magazine tested in the latest issue (which was sourced from Towne), they also add a crappy dealer emblem sticker on the back too.

They add a white Towne decal as well as a license plate frame. I've alredy told the salesguy that I don't want the decal on my car when it arrives - a plate frame can be tossed or even repainted. I was told no problem, that a lot of customers don't want / get the decal.

goldmbr · Jun 30th, 2002, 07:22 PM

Desert Mini (Las Vegas) requires you to buy (until demand falls off) a dealer "Value Package" for $2495.00 Chrome wheels (don't get to keep old wheels), floormats and a cd player. Jacksonville dealer is $1995.00 over sticker. The Mini in Orlando area has been asked by Mini NOT to sell car to out of state buyers. If you register car in Florida it is ok.

wingspan · Jul 25th, 2002, 05:11 PM

Goldmbr - where did you hear about Orlando Mini dealer being asked not to sell out of state?

mag

stanMINI · Jul 25th, 2002, 05:29 PM

The wait at Baron may be less than they tell you because some people will drop off of the list. That was my experience anyway. I was originally told December and my S is due to leave England Saturday. You can put money down in multiple places to increase your odds.

MINIjewel · Jul 25th, 2002, 05:32 PM

So much for having friends on MINI2...I can't believe nobody mentioned me!

International MINI
Milwaukee, WI

djafactor · Jul 25th, 2002, 05:41 PM

I just bought mine from Dreyer in Indianapolis this week. I went in on Monday and got a prespec which should be here Saturday. If you order a '02, i was told the delivery would be late Oct early Nov. For '03 we are talking February/March. Everything is MSRP.

Amit

stryder · Jul 25th, 2002, 06:04 PM

Sorry MINIJewel, just don't have any experience in the midwest MINI market besides Classic who has required dealer "packages" that start at $1000

Anyway, I support Towne, I worked with Greg, the other salesperson (motoring advisor) and he was quite useful. I can attest to having a Towne car with no sticker and oddly about a month after I got the car and was bored the Towne license plate frames disappeared easily too (they're cheapish plastic), so its very stealth. The $599 package above MSRP seems to be fairly reasonable given the market and Buffalo/Rochester isn't an amazingly popular place so I don't think the wait would be excessive. Try them at 716 504-MINI and see what you get. They also are conviently about 2 miles from the Buffalo Airport.

xplode · Jul 25th, 2002, 07:37 PM

morristown mini, nj. you pay msrp plus whatever options you want, or if you're lucky enough pick one off the showroom floor. no dealer decals, just a plateframe. nice people to visit too, drop in or give them a call 973.451.0009 to find out what the wait is like...

carnellm · Jul 25th, 2002, 11:31 PM

Talk to Martha Crosby at Rick Hendricks MINI in Charleston, SC. They did still have some on the lot and were quoting not to long time for ordering. Also, they do not bump the prices above MSRP or required buying all kinds of extra stuff. I bought mine from them, off the lot, and love it. Nice to be right here by the port of entry! A link to the dealership, and Martha's email, are on my MINI's page linked below in my sig...

Michael

btsave · Jul 26th, 2002, 07:24 AM

Call Bonnie at Ft. Lauderdale Mini!

$299 over MSRP!

Best people to deal with!

Avoid Braman Motorcars in West Palm Beach, $3k over MSRP.

AlanB · Jul 26th, 2002, 10:45 AM

North Scottsdale Mini had me on their list for 14 months to get my prespec MCS DS/W. I was asked, "What color?" and that was it. It had the options I wanted, but I did not get to pick little things. They got MRSP from me, but I added some things on my own (window tint, floor mats, etc.) All in all the most reasonable interaction to get a very much in demand car! I remember in 1977 when my wife was waiting for the first ever Honda Accord! The Honda Dealers were real gangsters! Someone wrote a book about how they gouged US consumers!!!

Jun 30th, 2002, 01:38 AM	#1
cdrober MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas City Missouri Local Time: 01:09 PM Posts: 3 Offline	Good Mini Dealership in USA? MSRP? Wait for S? Hello everyone. I currently have only have a deposit for an MCS at one dealership(Baron MINI in Kansas, it is only 1 hour away from where I live). They told me 9-12 Months, so April-June 2002 for delivery. Has anyone here found a good dealership, I am willing to fly anywhere in the US to get my S sooner. I do not want to pay more than MSRP, although MUST BUY OPTIONS might be ok depending on what they are, Baron makes you buy $1000 dollars worth of stuff including the CD Changer. I also want to spec it myself. I know I am asking for alot, maybe even the impossible, but any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks alot for just reading this post. It's MINI Time!

Jun 30th, 2002, 02:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
shkeller55 MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: Lilburn, GA Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 238 Offline	Hank Aaron in Atlanta supposedly sells for MSRP but there's also supposedly a similarly-long wait. I've heard the Memphis dealership is good. You might want to check www.minicooperonline.com - it's a U.S.-based forum and there's a thread(s) on it concerning this subject. Scott in ATL. 2002 Mini Cooper S Chili Red/White. 1998 Mercedes ML320.

Jun 30th, 2002, 02:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 01:09 PM Posts: 3,758 Offline	cdrober, don't delay, read this thread immediately! http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=10116 It may help you out if you don't want to wait for a Cooper S. + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Jun 30th, 2002, 07:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
Keith MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SW Florida Local Time: 07:09 PM Posts: 683 Offline	I think Braman in Miami may get you in an S fater if you are willinig to take some extras. This gives my experiences with them : http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...&threadid=9373 2007 DS/W MCS LSD, sport suspension, Enkei RPM2 wheels 2002 EB/W MCS Sport package, Rogue intake, Borla exhaust, 15% pulley & Madness sway bar

Jun 30th, 2002, 07:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
AprilWhine Loves the Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gypsy Local Time: 01:09 PM Posts: 16,078 Offline	Checkered Flag MINI Checkered Flag, in Virginia Beach, VA, has a very short waiting list for an MCS. Bad news is that, although they do charge MSRP, there is a dealer required option package for a cost of $1700. It's for things like CD changer, alarm system, floor mats, etc. They also add $350 to your price for dealer service. Good news is that they have plenty of cars, and the manager, Richard, is very nice and will keep his word on a deal. Global Moderator

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Jun 30th, 2002, 02:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
erazo MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Diego Local Time: 12:09 PM Posts: 526 Offline	Your experience is fairly typical, based on what I've read. The wait time especially is not atypical. Demand is much higher than supply, and dealers have no control over supply. The dealer will naturally try to cater to those with less patience, as they can be expected to pay more. But if you're willing to wait, you should resist the unwanted dealer options if you have no need for them. In most cases, the dealer will acquiesce if you follow the three P's: polite, persistent and patient.

Jun 30th, 2002, 07:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
Gary Tate MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: Millington TN Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 285 Offline	Roadshow Mini in Memphis TN is selling at MSRP. I am not sure what the wait is if you spec a car. They also have cars avaialbe with dealer add ons. CD Changer, mats and valve stem covers for example. Nice people to deal with. 901 365 2584 ask for Dorian Geraci, new salesperson nice too Gary from Memphis – Chili Red S White top SP/PP delivered 7/30/2002

Jun 30th, 2002, 11:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
Pamlico Dead Man's Curve? Feh. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rochester, NY Local Time: 03:09 PM Posts: 1,176 Offline	You might try Towne Mini in Buffalo, NY. I signed up on "The List" before they opened so my mid-June ordered S is expected in mid-August. I've heard of others ordering from Towne with a reasonable wait. They sell at MSRP but do add a $595 "TLC Package" consisting of floor mats (choice of rubber or cloth), paint sealant, hand wax job, and a few other little goodies. Esay to deal with, no problems. The salesperson I'm dealing with (Doug) responds quickly to emails, etc. Good luck.

Jun 30th, 2002, 01:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 01:09 PM Posts: 3,758 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Pamlico You might try Towne Mini in Buffalo, NY. ....They sell at MSRP but do add a $595 "TLC Package" consisting of floor mats (choice of rubber or cloth), paint sealant, hand wax job, and a few other little goodies... Based upon the Cooper S that Car and Driver magazine tested in the latest issue (which was sourced from Towne), they also add a crappy dealer emblem sticker on the back too. + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Jun 30th, 2002, 02:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
Pamlico Dead Man's Curve? Feh. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rochester, NY Local Time: 03:09 PM Posts: 1,176 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by BruceK Based upon the Cooper S that Car and Driver magazine tested in the latest issue (which was sourced from Towne), they also add a crappy dealer emblem sticker on the back too. They add a white Towne decal as well as a license plate frame. I've alredy told the salesguy that I don't want the decal on my car when it arrives - a plate frame can be tossed or even repainted. I was told no problem, that a lot of customers don't want / get the decal.

Jun 30th, 2002, 07:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
goldmbr MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: DTW Michigan Local Time: 07:09 PM Posts: 227 Offline	Desert Mini (Las Vegas) requires you to buy (until demand falls off) a dealer "Value Package" for $2495.00 Chrome wheels (don't get to keep old wheels), floormats and a cd player. Jacksonville dealer is $1995.00 over sticker. The Mini in Orlando area has been asked by Mini NOT to sell car to out of state buyers. If you register car in Florida it is ok.

Jul 25th, 2002, 05:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
wingspan MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central Florida Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 73 Offline	Goldmbr - where did you hear about Orlando Mini dealer being asked not to sell out of state? mag 1967 Austin Cooper S 1275 "Magnus"

Jul 25th, 2002, 05:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
stanMINI MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Wichita, KS Local Time: 01:09 PM Posts: 184 Offline	The wait at Baron may be less than they tell you because some people will drop off of the list. That was my experience anyway. I was originally told December and my S is due to leave England Saturday. You can put money down in multiple places to increase your odds. Cooper S - Chili Red w/Black The road goes on forever and the party never ends.

Jul 25th, 2002, 05:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
MINIjewel I'm baaaaack!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 2,349 Offline	So much for having friends on MINI2...I can't believe nobody mentioned me! International MINI Milwaukee, WI Snow creates a chemical imbalance in most peoples brains that makes them forget how to drive.

Jul 25th, 2002, 05:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
djafactor MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Local Time: 03:09 PM Posts: 162 Offline	I just bought mine from Dreyer in Indianapolis this week. I went in on Monday and got a prespec which should be here Saturday. If you order a '02, i was told the delivery would be late Oct early Nov. For '03 we are talking February/March. Everything is MSRP. Amit '05 MCS '78 MINI 1000 electricpixel.org

Jul 25th, 2002, 06:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
stryder Sponsor/Moderator/Other Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 3,267 Offline	Ditto For Towne Sorry MINIJewel, just don't have any experience in the midwest MINI market besides Classic who has required dealer "packages" that start at $1000 Anyway, I support Towne, I worked with Greg, the other salesperson (motoring advisor) and he was quite useful. I can attest to having a Towne car with no sticker and oddly about a month after I got the car and was bored the Towne license plate frames disappeared easily too (they're cheapish plastic), so its very stealth. The $599 package above MSRP seems to be fairly reasonable given the market and Buffalo/Rochester isn't an amazingly popular place so I don't think the wait would be excessive. Try them at 716 504-MINI and see what you get. They also are conviently about 2 miles from the Buffalo Airport. Magic 8-ball was correct. All be in awe of Magic 8 ball.

Jul 25th, 2002, 07:37 PM	#17 (permalink)
xplode minimalist Join Date: May 2002 Location: here Local Time: 03:09 PM Posts: 585 Offline	morristown mini, nj. you pay msrp plus whatever options you want, or if you're lucky enough pick one off the showroom floor. no dealer decals, just a plateframe. nice people to visit too, drop in or give them a call 973.451.0009 to find out what the wait is like... cooper s '05 x brg/white/chrome, cordoba/anthracite/chrome, flik wasp 17x7 x delivered july 26th 2005 cooper '02 replaced x brg/white, R83 white, chrome, cordoba x built june 21st, arrived july 15th on the traviata, delivered july 26th 2002

Jul 25th, 2002, 11:31 PM	#18 (permalink)
carnellm MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Charleston, SC Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 22 Offline	Rick Hendricks in Charleston, SC Talk to Martha Crosby at Rick Hendricks MINI in Charleston, SC. They did still have some on the lot and were quoting not to long time for ordering. Also, they do not bump the prices above MSRP or required buying all kinds of extra stuff. I bought mine from them, off the lot, and love it. Nice to be right here by the port of entry! A link to the dealership, and Martha's email, are on my MINI's page linked below in my sig... Michael Electric Blue Mini Cooper S Charleston, South Carolina My MINI's Homepage http://www.palmettobug.com/mini/mini_sticker.jpg

Jul 26th, 2002, 07:24 AM	#19 (permalink)
btsave MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: Florida, USA Local Time: 03:09 PM Posts: 160 Offline	mini Call Bonnie at Ft. Lauderdale Mini! $299 over MSRP! Best people to deal with! Avoid Braman Motorcars in West Palm Beach, $3k over MSRP. 1965 Morris Mini-Minor Rallye Equiped 1969 MGB GT 1971 MGB Roadster 1973 MG Midget 1983 Porsche 944 1994 Chevy Camero 2004 Chrysler Pacifica 2004 Mini Cooper S, Premium & Sport Pack, rear fogs, H/K... etc.

Jul 26th, 2002, 10:45 AM	#20 (permalink)
AlanB MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tucson, Arizona USA Local Time: 07:09 PM Posts: 154 Offline	North Scottsdale Mini had me on their list for 14 months to get my prespec MCS DS/W. I was asked, "What color?" and that was it. It had the options I wanted, but I did not get to pick little things. They got MRSP from me, but I added some things on my own (window tint, floor mats, etc.) All in all the most reasonable interaction to get a very much in demand car! I remember in 1977 when my wife was waiting for the first ever Honda Accord! The Honda Dealers were real gangsters! Someone wrote a book about how they gouged US consumers!!! Alan B

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