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COOPERation · Mar 31st, 2002, 10:23 AM

I just wanted to start a feedback outlet for the dealership in Baltimore to find others opinion.

Compliments or Complaints?

Thanks and good luck to all!

GO TERPS!!

jhirsche · Mar 31st, 2002, 01:36 PM

So far things are OK. Test drove the S last Saturday; working with M/A Dave Shelton to spec my S. Maybe we could all use this thread to share the info they give us (M of T).
Any thoughts?

MiniMoke · Mar 31st, 2002, 01:44 PM

speced car for sept. build. want xenons, Harmon Kardon and full cold weather pkg. #3 S list since last June.

kshapiro · Mar 31st, 2002, 02:05 PM

I was #1 on their list, since last April..before they were awarded the franchise. I live 5 miles away. Since then, the people I've been dealing with have changed faster than the weather. Now, I'm dealing with Brett Sholder (GM) and Barry Wilson (sales).

I'm thrilled that they are a MSRP dealing dealer. I had specced a Dark Silver car on 3/25, that Brett said he was going to put into the hopper on Monday. Well, it turns out that he was trying to modify the first five factory spec cars he'd been given. BMW wouldn't allow him to do that, so my spec went into a drawer, and there was a general e-mail sent out saying customer spec cars would be put in for June build. I went back in to find out there were a gazillion factory spec cars slated to be sent to Towson before mine. I wish that had been in the e-mail! I raced over there, too impatient to wait for a June build. Brett shared the list of factory spec cars, and I chose one. It'll be built May 17.

See, some nuts like myself will give up their dream of a customer spec car just for another month of summer driving!

Bottom line? Real MINI freaks like you and I will always know more about the car than our salespeople...accept that. Also accept that we're into the CAR...the dealer and builder are into the profit...they are not enthusiasts. You and I are very anxious about a month's difference...they're not. Accept all that and you'll be less critical.

I'm happy with Towson MINI

jhirsche · Mar 31st, 2002, 03:37 PM

Minimoke,

What # are you on the list? I haven't been given any production # or date yet, but maybe that'll change with the new allocation of S's according to kshapiro. Dave Shelton told me I'd be contacted for final confirmation of my spec's before their sent in.
BTW, I think I'm around 103. Hoping some of the non-enthusiasts won't want to wait, and'll settle for a plain-jane cooper, or one of the new pre-spec. allocations At an rate, I don't need this car until Late September.

Kshapiro - that's my pic. Did you remeber seeing me at Mini of Towson last saturday?

kshapiro · Mar 31st, 2002, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jhirsche
Minimoke,

What # are you on the list? I haven't been given any production # or date yet, but maybe that'll change with the new allocation of S's according to kshapiro. Dave Shelton told me I'd be contacted for final confirmation of my spec's before their sent in.
BTW, I think I'm around 103. Hoping some of the non-enthusiasts won't want to wait, and'll settle for a plain-jane cooper, or one of the new pre-spec. allocations At an rate, I don't need this car until Late September.

Kshapiro - that's my pic. Did you remeber seeing me at Mini of Towson last saturday?

Sorry...I don't look at guys that carefully...not that there's anything wrong with that (PC).

jhirsche · Mar 31st, 2002, 11:34 PM

Ummm. . . yeah, ok. You were a little more enthusiast in the IM you sent back last week. Just a fellow Mini enthusiast; not looking for a date.

PA MINI · Apr 2nd, 2002, 03:58 PM

Took my test drive last Monday at Mini of Towson.
Have been dealing with both Bret Shoulder and Barry Wilson.
So far so good. I did a spec while I was there, but it appears because of the Sept. availabilty on some items, that will change. At this point, I don't know what # I am, as some have already taken pre-speced. Started # 16.
I'll wait, but if my neighbor gets one first, I'll have to take his keys.

jim · Apr 2nd, 2002, 05:10 PM

I'm pleased with Towson's prices and I received a Cooper production#, but the specs on the owner's lounge don't match Towson's.

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...wners+loun ge

Brett is quite receptive to offering aftermarket parts as well ($$$). The Mini's got to go DOWN.

GizzmoGeek · Apr 2nd, 2002, 05:21 PM

I ordered my mini last week from Towson MINI (March 25th) and then went in to get my production number on Friday the 29th only to find that they hadn't ordered the car, even though they swear they did. Brett ordered it this past weekend and while I have a week later build, the spec on the owner's lounge matches the car I asked for unlike poor Jim's. I was pleased with the pricing too. And Barry is a great guy to work with. Dave doesn't seem to have a whole lot of in depth knowledge. Brett is all salesman.

kshapiro · Apr 24th, 2002, 08:45 PM

I was back in TOWSON MINI today...just to get a "fix" (sit in the EB on the showroom floor). The PR guy told me that somebody offered them $11,000 over sticker for the EB demo! Unlike some of the dealerships we've all read about, they said no to the guy. The PR guy's words were, "Very short sighted to do that." I've always had bad interactions with car dealerships, so honestly I'm always waiting for the show to drop. But so far, this dealership is acting the way we all want dealerships to act. I think they're just $$$mart. I'll alwys go back to them and always recommend them if they keep up this very fair, very professional attitude.

My car is half way across the Atlantic(even though the MINI USA site doesn't know that)!!!

GizzmoGeek · Apr 24th, 2002, 10:16 PM

Wait a minute - how do you know your MINI is on the boat if MINI Usa doesn't? A) how do you know it is on a boat and b) how do you know when the boat sails?

Reason I am so interested is that my car was built on April 17th and I am just waiting for it to be sent across the pond to me. Is there some minute chance it may be on the way and I just don't know it??? (hope hope hope)

sdmidget · Apr 24th, 2002, 10:23 PM

Don't listen to MINIUSA - listen to the freight line (they should know where their ships are AND what's on them).

GizzmoGeek · Apr 24th, 2002, 10:43 PM

Ah but you didn't answer my question - how do you know what freight liner they use and how do I know which freight liner my car is on? How can I track it down?

jim · Apr 24th, 2002, 10:49 PM

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...highlight=ship

jim · Apr 24th, 2002, 10:54 PM

Damn Mini's going to NY, come to Baltimore!

Cargo Id: TC33897
Booking Number: GBSOU77260 Bill Number:
Vessel: MAERSK WIND Port of Origin: SOUTHAMPTON
Voyage: EQ209-MWI Port of Destination: NEW YORK,NY
Priority: Customer Ref. Number:
Status Port Time (dd/mm/yyyy hh:mm)
RECEIVED AT TERMINAL SOUTHAMPTON 24/04/2002 13:46
BOOKED SOUTHAMPTON 07/03/2002 12:54
First Previous Next Last From 1 to 2 Total: 2 Printer Friendly Version Return

sdmidget · Apr 24th, 2002, 10:59 PM

Cargo Tracking:

You need a VIN#. If you have one, go to the following:

http://schedule.2wglobal.com/GLWebApps.AppTracking

Go to Track by Cargo, click on Auto

Cargo ID is the last 7 digits of the VIN, type in, hit "Track"

Should take you to the Cargo Status History Page; it will show you the vessel name and the Voyage ID - you can click on the Voyage ID and it will take you to the ship's itinerary.

(Geez - I think I just did a FAQ)

GizzmoGeek · Apr 24th, 2002, 11:02 PM

Thanks as usual Jim. Guess I should quit my day job and read more posts!

GizzmoGeek · Apr 24th, 2002, 11:08 PM

Ok so went to that website and if the info is true then my MINI is on the Jinga Maru and due to arrive in Baltimore on May 3rd. No way! Hmm, will be tracking that closely for sure.

sdmidget · Apr 24th, 2002, 11:09 PM

Hey, my car's ID is TC33895 - wonder if the production line numbers are consecutive. (but mine's on the Jingu Maru).

Mar 31st, 2002, 01:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
jhirsche MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 10:22 AM Posts: 10 Offline	So far things are OK. Test drove the S last Saturday; working with M/A Dave Shelton to spec my S. Maybe we could all use this thread to share the info they give us (M of T). Any thoughts? loaded Jet Black Cooper S #103 Mini of Towson

Mar 31st, 2002, 01:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
MiniMoke MINI2 Sponsor & Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toledo Ohio, USA Local Time: 02:22 PM Posts: 231 Offline	speced car for sept. build. want xenons, Harmon Kardon and full cold weather pkg. #3 S list since last June. 2003 S, Electric blue white/roof, Premium, Cold Weather and Sport packs. Sept 15 Build/ Delivered Oct 20, 2002

Mar 31st, 2002, 02:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
kshapiro MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 07:22 PM Posts: 937 Offline	I was #1 on their list, since last April..before they were awarded the franchise. I live 5 miles away. Since then, the people I've been dealing with have changed faster than the weather. Now, I'm dealing with Brett Sholder (GM) and Barry Wilson (sales). I'm thrilled that they are a MSRP dealing dealer. I had specced a Dark Silver car on 3/25, that Brett said he was going to put into the hopper on Monday. Well, it turns out that he was trying to modify the first five factory spec cars he'd been given. BMW wouldn't allow him to do that, so my spec went into a drawer, and there was a general e-mail sent out saying customer spec cars would be put in for June build. I went back in to find out there were a gazillion factory spec cars slated to be sent to Towson before mine. I wish that had been in the e-mail! I raced over there, too impatient to wait for a June build. Brett shared the list of factory spec cars, and I chose one. It'll be built May 17. See, some nuts like myself will give up their dream of a customer spec car just for another month of summer driving! Bottom line? Real MINI freaks like you and I will always know more about the car than our salespeople...accept that. Also accept that we're into the CAR...the dealer and builder are into the profit...they are not enthusiasts. You and I are very anxious about a month's difference...they're not. Accept all that and you'll be less critical. I'm happy with Towson MINI Ken Shapiro Electric Blue w/ Sport Package...first "S" delivered in Maryland (5/10/02) I've been everywhere but the electric chair...I've seen everything but the wind.

Mar 31st, 2002, 03:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
jhirsche MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 10:22 AM Posts: 10 Offline	Minimoke, What # are you on the list? I haven't been given any production # or date yet, but maybe that'll change with the new allocation of S's according to kshapiro. Dave Shelton told me I'd be contacted for final confirmation of my spec's before their sent in. BTW, I think I'm around 103. Hoping some of the non-enthusiasts won't want to wait, and'll settle for a plain-jane cooper, or one of the new pre-spec. allocations At an rate, I don't need this car until Late September. Kshapiro - that's my pic. Did you remeber seeing me at Mini of Towson last saturday? loaded Jet Black Cooper S #103 Mini of Towson

Mar 31st, 2002, 07:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
kshapiro MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 07:22 PM Posts: 937 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by jhirsche Minimoke, What # are you on the list? I haven't been given any production # or date yet, but maybe that'll change with the new allocation of S's according to kshapiro. Dave Shelton told me I'd be contacted for final confirmation of my spec's before their sent in. BTW, I think I'm around 103. Hoping some of the non-enthusiasts won't want to wait, and'll settle for a plain-jane cooper, or one of the new pre-spec. allocations At an rate, I don't need this car until Late September. Kshapiro - that's my pic. Did you remeber seeing me at Mini of Towson last saturday? Sorry...I don't look at guys that carefully...not that there's anything wrong with that (PC). Ken Shapiro Electric Blue w/ Sport Package...first "S" delivered in Maryland (5/10/02) I've been everywhere but the electric chair...I've seen everything but the wind.

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Mar 31st, 2002, 10:23 AM	#1
COOPERation MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Local Time: 02:22 PM Posts: 1,401 Offline	MINI of Towson I just wanted to start a feedback outlet for the dealership in Baltimore to find others opinion. Compliments or Complaints? Thanks and good luck to all! GO TERPS!!

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Mar 31st, 2002, 11:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
jhirsche MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 10:22 AM Posts: 10 Offline	Ummm. . . yeah, ok. You were a little more enthusiast in the IM you sent back last week. Just a fellow Mini enthusiast; not looking for a date. loaded Jet Black Cooper S #103 Mini of Towson

Apr 2nd, 2002, 03:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
PA MINI MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Local Time: 02:22 PM Posts: 5 Offline	Took my test drive last Monday at Mini of Towson. Have been dealing with both Bret Shoulder and Barry Wilson. So far so good. I did a spec while I was there, but it appears because of the Sept. availabilty on some items, that will change. At this point, I don't know what # I am, as some have already taken pre-speced. Started # 16. I'll wait, but if my neighbor gets one first, I'll have to take his keys.

Apr 2nd, 2002, 05:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
jim MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Maryland Local Time: 07:22 PM Posts: 51 Offline	Prices great, specs. not so great. I'm pleased with Towson's prices and I received a Cooper production#, but the specs on the owner's lounge don't match Towson's. http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...wners+loun ge Brett is quite receptive to offering aftermarket parts as well ($$$). The Mini's got to go DOWN. Last edited by jim : Apr 2nd, 2002 at 05:13 PM.

Apr 2nd, 2002, 05:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
GizzmoGeek MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Local Time: 03:22 PM Posts: 62 Offline	I ordered my mini last week from Towson MINI (March 25th) and then went in to get my production number on Friday the 29th only to find that they hadn't ordered the car, even though they swear they did. Brett ordered it this past weekend and while I have a week later build, the spec on the owner's lounge matches the car I asked for unlike poor Jim's. I was pleased with the pricing too. And Barry is a great guy to work with. Dave doesn't seem to have a whole lot of in depth knowledge. Brett is all salesman. MINIMINIMINIMINIMINIMINIMINI

Apr 24th, 2002, 08:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
kshapiro MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 07:22 PM Posts: 937 Offline	VERY ethical so far I was back in TOWSON MINI today...just to get a "fix" (sit in the EB on the showroom floor). The PR guy told me that somebody offered them $11,000 over sticker for the EB demo! Unlike some of the dealerships we've all read about, they said no to the guy. The PR guy's words were, "Very short sighted to do that." I've always had bad interactions with car dealerships, so honestly I'm always waiting for the show to drop. But so far, this dealership is acting the way we all want dealerships to act. I think they're just $$$mart. I'll alwys go back to them and always recommend them if they keep up this very fair, very professional attitude. My car is half way across the Atlantic(even though the MINI USA site doesn't know that)!!! Ken Shapiro Electric Blue w/ Sport Package...first "S" delivered in Maryland (5/10/02) I've been everywhere but the electric chair...I've seen everything but the wind.

Apr 24th, 2002, 10:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
GizzmoGeek MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Local Time: 03:22 PM Posts: 62 Offline	On the Boat? Wait a minute - how do you know your MINI is on the boat if MINI Usa doesn't? A) how do you know it is on a boat and b) how do you know when the boat sails? Reason I am so interested is that my car was built on April 17th and I am just waiting for it to be sent across the pond to me. Is there some minute chance it may be on the way and I just don't know it??? (hope hope hope)

Apr 24th, 2002, 10:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
sdmidget MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lancaster, PA (USA) Local Time: 02:22 PM Posts: 929 Offline	Don't listen to MINIUSA - listen to the freight line (they should know where their ships are AND what's on them). 2002 BRG/W [BRidGet] traded in on 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper [?name?] 2005 #1 wrecked by SUV on 6/03/05 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper (2005 #2) [?name?] picked up on 6/24/05

Apr 24th, 2002, 10:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
GizzmoGeek MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Local Time: 03:22 PM Posts: 62 Offline	Freight Liner? Ah but you didn't answer my question - how do you know what freight liner they use and how do I know which freight liner my car is on? How can I track it down?

Apr 24th, 2002, 10:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
jim MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Maryland Local Time: 07:22 PM Posts: 51 Offline	http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...highlight=ship Last edited by jim : Apr 24th, 2002 at 10:55 PM.

Apr 24th, 2002, 10:54 PM	#16 (permalink)
jim MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Maryland Local Time: 07:22 PM Posts: 51 Offline	Damn Mini's going to NY, come to Baltimore! Cargo Id: TC33897 Booking Number: GBSOU77260 Bill Number: Vessel: MAERSK WIND Port of Origin: SOUTHAMPTON Voyage: EQ209-MWI Port of Destination: NEW YORK,NY Priority: Customer Ref. Number: Status Port Time (dd/mm/yyyy hh:mm) RECEIVED AT TERMINAL SOUTHAMPTON 24/04/2002 13:46 BOOKED SOUTHAMPTON 07/03/2002 12:54 First Previous Next Last From 1 to 2 Total: 2 Printer Friendly Version Return Last edited by jim : Apr 25th, 2002 at 10:23 AM.

Apr 24th, 2002, 10:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
sdmidget MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lancaster, PA (USA) Local Time: 02:22 PM Posts: 929 Offline	Cargo Tracking: You need a VIN#. If you have one, go to the following: http://schedule.2wglobal.com/GLWebApps.AppTracking Go to Track by Cargo, click on Auto Cargo ID is the last 7 digits of the VIN, type in, hit "Track" Should take you to the Cargo Status History Page; it will show you the vessel name and the Voyage ID - you can click on the Voyage ID and it will take you to the ship's itinerary. (Geez - I think I just did a FAQ) 2002 BRG/W [BRidGet] traded in on 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper [?name?] 2005 #1 wrecked by SUV on 6/03/05 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper (2005 #2) [?name?] picked up on 6/24/05

Apr 24th, 2002, 11:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
GizzmoGeek MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Local Time: 03:22 PM Posts: 62 Offline	Thanks as usual Jim. Guess I should quit my day job and read more posts!

Apr 24th, 2002, 11:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
GizzmoGeek MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Local Time: 03:22 PM Posts: 62 Offline	Woah! Ok so went to that website and if the info is true then my MINI is on the Jinga Maru and due to arrive in Baltimore on May 3rd. No way! Hmm, will be tracking that closely for sure.

Apr 24th, 2002, 11:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
sdmidget MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lancaster, PA (USA) Local Time: 02:22 PM Posts: 929 Offline	Hey, my car's ID is TC33895 - wonder if the production line numbers are consecutive. (but mine's on the Jingu Maru). 2002 BRG/W [BRidGet] traded in on 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper [?name?] 2005 #1 wrecked by SUV on 6/03/05 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper (2005 #2) [?name?] picked up on 6/24/05

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