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rugbyref31 · Apr 4th, 2002, 09:07 AM

The new MINI dealership in West Chester PA will not be open until December. They are having construction problems. Paul Kaufmann is no longer with them. The new MINI point man is Justice Mogano. By the way the fax number listed for them is out of service. I have been told that if you had your name on their list you will still get the first bite of their allocation.

MadAboutMINI · Apr 4th, 2002, 10:24 AM

rugbyref31, thanks for the update. I've pretty much given up on Otto's. I put a deposit down at Don Rosen's when it was becoming obvious that there would be an issue with Otto's opening. I don't know what the deal was there with the June and now December opening, but it's a bummer for those on that interest list!

jlivingood · Apr 4th, 2002, 04:20 PM

I think December is fantasy. I think January is more likely. My main consideration is access to a construction workforce and of course to customers during the holidays - which is difficult. In addition, if they wait until January 1st then they don't have to worry about all of the annual corporate crap that a business must go through for really only operating a few days during the year(annual results for the year, annual tax reports to government, annual payroll and w-2 summaries, etc.).

I don't expect a big rush to open anyway. If a dealership could open sometime soon they could still capitalize greatly on pent-up demand. All of that demand for the Cooper and a good portion of that demand for the Cooper S should be satisfied by January.

And I would think that almost everyone from their wait list will have a car by then from Don Rosen MINI, who is benefitting by getting many of the cars originally allocated to Otto's.

Bad business decision on the part of Otto's to wait on construction. I still have my name on the Otto's list but I expect I will get one from Don Rosen well before that.

Jason

jlivingood · Oct 9th, 2002, 03:24 PM

Just got a message on my answering machine from someone at Otto's indicating that I was on the wait list at there and that if I wanted a car I should call them.

I was 39th or 40th on their wait list and I called and spoke with Bob at Otto's. Sounds like they will be opening up in early January. Initial allocation of 43 cars (23 Coopers, 20 Cooper S) which means I'd have a shot at getting another Cooper S if I wanted it, for November production. Maybe I'll get a 2nd MCS.

Then again, buying a house is a little higher up on the list.

Jason

sdmidget · Oct 9th, 2002, 04:51 PM

Hi Jason!

I got a call from Tina(?) of Otto's BMW today at work - wanted to know if I was still interested in a MINI

Told her that I couldn't wait for them (obviously was on their "interest list" last summer 2001).

If/when they do open - closer for service/repairs though.

Steve

Apr 4th, 2002, 09:07 AM	#1
rugbyref31 Rugbyref Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wilmington DE Local Time: 06:50 PM Posts: 6 Offline	Ottos West Chester PA The new MINI dealership in West Chester PA will not be open until December. They are having construction problems. Paul Kaufmann is no longer with them. The new MINI point man is Justice Mogano. By the way the fax number listed for them is out of service. I have been told that if you had your name on their list you will still get the first bite of their allocation.

Apr 4th, 2002, 10:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
MadAboutMINI MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Local Time: 05:50 PM Posts: 97 Offline	rugbyref31, thanks for the update. I've pretty much given up on Otto's. I put a deposit down at Don Rosen's when it was becoming obvious that there would be an issue with Otto's opening. I don't know what the deal was there with the June and now December opening, but it's a bummer for those on that interest list! Dave ------- 1993 Nissan Sentra SE-R 1999 VW Passat Wagon 2002 MINI Cooper S (I hope!)

Apr 4th, 2002, 04:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
jlivingood MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA, US Local Time: 10:50 PM Posts: 808 Offline	I think December is fantasy. I think January is more likely. My main consideration is access to a construction workforce and of course to customers during the holidays - which is difficult. In addition, if they wait until January 1st then they don't have to worry about all of the annual corporate crap that a business must go through for really only operating a few days during the year(annual results for the year, annual tax reports to government, annual payroll and w-2 summaries, etc.). I don't expect a big rush to open anyway. If a dealership could open sometime soon they could still capitalize greatly on pent-up demand. All of that demand for the Cooper and a good portion of that demand for the Cooper S should be satisfied by January. And I would think that almost everyone from their wait list will have a car by then from Don Rosen MINI, who is benefitting by getting many of the cars originally allocated to Otto's. Bad business decision on the part of Otto's to wait on construction. I still have my name on the Otto's list but I expect I will get one from Don Rosen well before that. Jason Jason Livingood \| personal web site 2002 DS/W MINI Cooper S Thank you for signing my rear fog light petition. Now we have rear fogs! :-)

Oct 9th, 2002, 03:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
jlivingood MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA, US Local Time: 10:50 PM Posts: 808 Offline	Otto's: Late Bloomer... Just got a message on my answering machine from someone at Otto's indicating that I was on the wait list at there and that if I wanted a car I should call them. I was 39th or 40th on their wait list and I called and spoke with Bob at Otto's. Sounds like they will be opening up in early January. Initial allocation of 43 cars (23 Coopers, 20 Cooper S) which means I'd have a shot at getting another Cooper S if I wanted it, for November production. Maybe I'll get a 2nd MCS. Then again, buying a house is a little higher up on the list. Jason Jason Livingood \| personal web site 2002 DS/W MINI Cooper S Thank you for signing my rear fog light petition. Now we have rear fogs! :-)

Oct 9th, 2002, 04:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
sdmidget MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lancaster, PA (USA) Local Time: 05:50 PM Posts: 931 Offline	Hi Jason! I got a call from Tina(?) of Otto's BMW today at work - wanted to know if I was still interested in a MINI Told her that I couldn't wait for them (obviously was on their "interest list" last summer 2001). If/when they do open - closer for service/repairs though. Steve 2002 BRG/W [BRidGet] traded in on 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper [?name?] 2005 #1 wrecked by SUV on 6/03/05 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper (2005 #2) [?name?] picked up on 6/24/05

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