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ontheroadagain · Oct 29th, 2003, 08:43 PM

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EPD that is given means the date (always a Friday) that the car is supposed to be complete on, not started.

Oh, thanks minikat, that I didn't know!

painterjane · Oct 29th, 2003, 09:23 PM

I'm wondering how long it takes to build a car too...although I guess mine is already built, with an Oct. 24 EPD? I would guess like a week? Maybe 2??

markjenn · Oct 29th, 2003, 09:30 PM

Pretty cool voice recog at ASK-MINI. However, it eventually dumped me back to a live person, who had exactly the same info as the web site: EPD 11/14.

Thanks for the port info. I doubt I'll be motoring before Xmas although my MA says four weeks from production to dealershp is "average" in Texas.

It is weird, but I've been on the fence to buy a new car for a year or more, and when I made the decision, I really didn't care one way or the other when the car got here, as long as it was within a few months or so. But now that they give you all this inforrmation, you can start obsessing over the date - it makes the waiting a lot harder. I think the fact that I'm going to be doing a huge road trip to pick it up builds the anticpation further. I gotta just forget about this stupid thing.

- Mark

minikat · Oct 29th, 2003, 11:17 PM

As far as production time goes. It seems like it is about 3 days after it starts getting painted, and it looks like about 3 days before that.

See the thread:
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...roduction+time

minikat · Oct 30th, 2003, 03:12 PM

Well I checked the web page this morning, and my EPD is now Nov 14! Great news as it previously was Nov 28.

Because of the change, I called ASK-MINI and checked the status as they sometimes differ. The recording stated that they did not have a production status, so I decided to speak with a rep. They indicated that I was status 150 - meaning production has started! A VIN number has not yet been assigned, but usually is when it is 150. They said that I'll probably get a VIN tomorrow or the next day.

ontheroadagain · Oct 30th, 2003, 03:19 PM

Oooo! minikat, that is exciting! I may have to call and speak to a real human being.

markjenn · Oct 30th, 2003, 04:17 PM

Wow, to go from 11/28 to actually being in production as we type! Quite a change. I've been 11/14 for a couple weeks, so perhaps mine is being built too. OTOH, I suspect they shuffle things around quite a bit to batch up colors or option packages on the line.

I think I'll stay away from the phone on this. I've got enough keeping me away from doing real work. It will come when it comes.

- Mark

painterjane · Oct 30th, 2003, 04:42 PM

I'm figuring out right now that they definitely move the date around! The other day when I called I had an EPD of oct. 24 and the website said nov. 7, which made me SO happy! But now when I call the car is actually in production with a completion date of Nov. 7. The website still says scheduled for production. Sigh...I think I'm making things hard for myself with all this checking!

Lucebel · Oct 31st, 2003, 09:06 AM

I wish I could check up on the owners lounge.. We don't have that service here in Holland. I've been itching to call the dealer several times but feel that would be a little silly / obsessed..

As my prod week is 45 (next week hooray!!) I'll treat myself and call them on monday.

Have your dealers kept you informed about production?? I haven't heard anything yet since ordering..

minikat · Oct 31st, 2003, 02:49 PM

Lucebel,

Greetings from the states. I'm originally from Holland. Ok, I was born here, but I get to travel there quite a bit. In fact, I will be in Amsterdam and Amersfoort on 13 Nov. My parents are originally from Enschede and I have relatives spread across the country.

As far as my dealer is concerned, I have never heard from them about my production status, although, I only ordered it a week ago. Plus, they told me to call ask-mini (1-866-ASK-MINI) to check on the status or to check the web page. If you have a production number (a 7 digit number) maybe you could call the US number and check. I would expcet that all the production numbers are in the system and they could check any car from the US. Let me know if it works.

Lucebel · Oct 31st, 2003, 03:23 PM

Hallo minikat!

Enjoy your time over here!
Thanks for the tips, will try that.. But first I think I'll give my dealer a call on monday, or maybe I'll even stop by tomorrow..
See if I can get a hold of any MINI-toys to play with while I wait until January..

courtinnyc · Oct 31st, 2003, 10:02 PM

Anybody in this thread expecting a MINI this month have second thoughts after reading Paul's terrific account of the upcoming "facelift"?

I for one am happy to be getting a pre "facelift" MkI MINI, in its original incarnation. I don't care about having the latest or greatest, and I'm not worried about resale values because I plan to keep my Cooper as long as possible.

The only argument I can see for waiting for the new version is if you are getting a 5-speed Cooper. The new Getrag gearbox should be an improvement over the Midlands box and just might be worth waiting for. (I'm getting the CVT version so it doesn't much matter to me.)

Thoughts?

ontheroadagain · Oct 31st, 2003, 10:12 PM

I'm with you courtinnyc...as markjenn posted on another related thread you could wait forever because there'll always be something newer comin' down the pike...kind of like my MacIntosh computer.

Thank goodness it appears that most of the little rattles and squeaks have been worked out.

d2create · Oct 31st, 2003, 10:15 PM

No worries about the facelift for me. Just want a mini now now now!!!

Actually, i just want my status to change from 'on order' to 'scheduled for production'. I've had a status of On Order for 1 month this coming tuesday.

minikat · Oct 31st, 2003, 10:58 PM

No second thoughts here. Minor changes like these don't bother me, unless there is one particular change that I'm interested in like the Getrag gearbox. However, I'm getting a Cooper S, so no worries. The only time I would wait is if there was an entire makeover of the car - like Honda does every 4 years.

jsteine2 · Oct 31st, 2003, 11:19 PM

No second thoughts here either. I'm happy.

markjenn · Oct 31st, 2003, 11:53 PM

The Getrag gearbox, based only on reputation, might be something to give me pause to wait. It doesn't affect me since I have an S on order, but if I was considering a non-S, I'd certainly do some serious research to see how widespread complaints are on the current 5-speed.

Facelifts? Don't care. I think a good parallel evolution might be the changes made in the 3-series over the last two years. If I look at both a 2002 and a 2004 330ic, I note cars that look every-so-slightly different; a re-positioned slit in the bumper or a different bend to a tail light bezel, but the change is very minor and I'd be hard pressed to say that one looks better than the other. Both look just fine, as I expect the Minis shipped now and next summer are both going to look just fine.

It is mainly of concern to folks who worry about buying something that will immediately not be the latest - they really want their cars to say "I'm new." They tend to buy black cars and spend their weekends polishing them.

I plan on getting mine dirty real quick. In my book, these are cars for driving, not looking at.

- Mark

painterjane · Nov 1st, 2003, 01:01 AM

definitely don't care if they change it. for one thing, I love the way it looks now. and now that I'll be getting it in about a month, I couldn't bear to wait that long for a "new" one anyway! Plus I ordered an S so the transmission issue doesn't matter.

poki · Nov 1st, 2003, 03:19 AM

Visited my dealer yesterday and could only find out that my baby will be made in November but on week 49. (3 spoke steering wheel for me YAY!) Colour me confused - what exactly does the production week mean? If I follow a calander, week 49 is actually the first week of December

Have searched all over this forum but appear to have missed this bit of information.

jsteine2 · Nov 1st, 2003, 05:02 AM

I like the way it looks now, I've ordered a MC but the tranny doesn't bother me enough to wait. poki... I need to check on that... I'm hoping for the 2 spoke wheel...

Oct 29th, 2003, 09:23 PM	#42 (permalink)
painterjane MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 59 Offline	I'm wondering how long it takes to build a car too...although I guess mine is already built, with an Oct. 24 EPD? I would guess like a week? Maybe 2?? '04 EB/W MCS, AC, H/K stereo, Lapis/Black leather...arrived Dec. 26!!

Oct 30th, 2003, 04:42 PM	#48 (permalink)
painterjane MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 59 Offline	I'm figuring out right now that they definitely move the date around! The other day when I called I had an EPD of oct. 24 and the website said nov. 7, which made me SO happy! But now when I call the car is actually in production with a completion date of Nov. 7. The website still says scheduled for production. Sigh...I think I'm making things hard for myself with all this checking! '04 EB/W MCS, AC, H/K stereo, Lapis/Black leather...arrived Dec. 26!!

Oct 31st, 2003, 11:19 PM	#56 (permalink)
jsteine2 How well, not how much. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Local Time: 03:41 PM Posts: 246 Offline	No second thoughts here either. I'm happy. Hers: '02 LY/white, CVT ...... His: '04 BRG/white In order to possess what you do not possess You must go by the way of dispossession. In order to arrive at what you are not You must go through the way in which you are not. (T.S. Eliot, East Coker III)

Nov 1st, 2003, 01:01 AM	#58 (permalink)
painterjane MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 59 Offline	definitely don't care if they change it. for one thing, I love the way it looks now. and now that I'll be getting it in about a month, I couldn't bear to wait that long for a "new" one anyway! Plus I ordered an S so the transmission issue doesn't matter. '04 EB/W MCS, AC, H/K stereo, Lapis/Black leather...arrived Dec. 26!!

Nov 1st, 2003, 03:19 AM	#59 (permalink)
poki Whatev. Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 06:41 AM Posts: 2,885 Offline	production week? Visited my dealer yesterday and could only find out that my baby will be made in November but on week 49. (3 spoke steering wheel for me YAY!) Colour me confused - what exactly does the production week mean? If I follow a calander, week 49 is actually the first week of December Have searched all over this forum but appear to have missed this bit of information.

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ontheroadagain MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: near Playland Local Time: 02:41 PM Posts: 1,829 Offline	Quote: EPD that is given means the date (always a Friday) that the car is supposed to be complete on, not started. Oh, thanks minikat, that I didn't know!

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Oct 29th, 2003, 09:30 PM	#43 (permalink)
markjenn MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 260 Offline	Pretty cool voice recog at ASK-MINI. However, it eventually dumped me back to a live person, who had exactly the same info as the web site: EPD 11/14. Thanks for the port info. I doubt I'll be motoring before Xmas although my MA says four weeks from production to dealershp is "average" in Texas. It is weird, but I've been on the fence to buy a new car for a year or more, and when I made the decision, I really didn't care one way or the other when the car got here, as long as it was within a few months or so. But now that they give you all this inforrmation, you can start obsessing over the date - it makes the waiting a lot harder. I think the fact that I'm going to be doing a huge road trip to pick it up builds the anticpation further. I gotta just forget about this stupid thing. - Mark

Oct 29th, 2003, 11:17 PM	#44 (permalink)
minikat MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Local Time: 02:41 PM Posts: 37 Offline	As far as production time goes. It seems like it is about 3 days after it starts getting painted, and it looks like about 3 days before that. See the thread: http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...roduction+time

Oct 30th, 2003, 03:12 PM	#45 (permalink)
minikat MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Local Time: 02:41 PM Posts: 37 Offline	Well I checked the web page this morning, and my EPD is now Nov 14! Great news as it previously was Nov 28. Because of the change, I called ASK-MINI and checked the status as they sometimes differ. The recording stated that they did not have a production status, so I decided to speak with a rep. They indicated that I was status 150 - meaning production has started! A VIN number has not yet been assigned, but usually is when it is 150. They said that I'll probably get a VIN tomorrow or the next day.

Oct 30th, 2003, 03:19 PM	#46 (permalink)
ontheroadagain MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: near Playland Local Time: 02:41 PM Posts: 1,829 Offline	Oooo! minikat, that is exciting! I may have to call and speak to a real human being.

Oct 30th, 2003, 04:17 PM	#47 (permalink)
markjenn MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 260 Offline	Wow, to go from 11/28 to actually being in production as we type! Quite a change. I've been 11/14 for a couple weeks, so perhaps mine is being built too. OTOH, I suspect they shuffle things around quite a bit to batch up colors or option packages on the line. I think I'll stay away from the phone on this. I've got enough keeping me away from doing real work. It will come when it comes. - Mark

Oct 31st, 2003, 09:06 AM	#49 (permalink)
Lucebel involuntary workaholic Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: working, to pay mini Local Time: 09:41 PM Posts: 695 Offline	I wish I could check up on the owners lounge.. We don't have that service here in Holland. I've been itching to call the dealer several times but feel that would be a little silly / obsessed.. As my prod week is 45 (next week hooray!!) I'll treat myself and call them on monday. Have your dealers kept you informed about production?? I haven't heard anything yet since ordering..

Oct 31st, 2003, 02:49 PM	#50 (permalink)
minikat MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Local Time: 02:41 PM Posts: 37 Offline	Lucebel, Greetings from the states. I'm originally from Holland. Ok, I was born here, but I get to travel there quite a bit. In fact, I will be in Amsterdam and Amersfoort on 13 Nov. My parents are originally from Enschede and I have relatives spread across the country. As far as my dealer is concerned, I have never heard from them about my production status, although, I only ordered it a week ago. Plus, they told me to call ask-mini (1-866-ASK-MINI) to check on the status or to check the web page. If you have a production number (a 7 digit number) maybe you could call the US number and check. I would expcet that all the production numbers are in the system and they could check any car from the US. Let me know if it works.

Oct 31st, 2003, 03:23 PM	#51 (permalink)
Lucebel involuntary workaholic Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: working, to pay mini Local Time: 09:41 PM Posts: 695 Offline	Hallo minikat! Enjoy your time over here! Thanks for the tips, will try that.. But first I think I'll give my dealer a call on monday, or maybe I'll even stop by tomorrow.. See if I can get a hold of any MINI-toys to play with while I wait until January..

Oct 31st, 2003, 10:02 PM	#52 (permalink)
courtinnyc MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York City Local Time: 07:41 PM Posts: 63 Offline	Anybody in this thread expecting a MINI this month have second thoughts after reading Paul's terrific account of the upcoming "facelift"? I for one am happy to be getting a pre "facelift" MkI MINI, in its original incarnation. I don't care about having the latest or greatest, and I'm not worried about resale values because I plan to keep my Cooper as long as possible. The only argument I can see for waiting for the new version is if you are getting a 5-speed Cooper. The new Getrag gearbox should be an improvement over the Midlands box and just might be worth waiting for. (I'm getting the CVT version so it doesn't much matter to me.) Thoughts?

Oct 31st, 2003, 10:12 PM	#53 (permalink)
ontheroadagain MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: near Playland Local Time: 02:41 PM Posts: 1,829 Offline	I'm with you courtinnyc...as markjenn posted on another related thread you could wait forever because there'll always be something newer comin' down the pike...kind of like my MacIntosh computer. Thank goodness it appears that most of the little rattles and squeaks have been worked out.

Oct 31st, 2003, 10:15 PM	#54 (permalink)
d2create MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Local Time: 02:41 PM Posts: 266 Offline	No worries about the facelift for me. Just want a mini now now now!!! Actually, i just want my status to change from 'on order' to 'scheduled for production'. I've had a status of On Order for 1 month this coming tuesday.

Oct 31st, 2003, 10:58 PM	#55 (permalink)
minikat MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Local Time: 02:41 PM Posts: 37 Offline	No second thoughts here. Minor changes like these don't bother me, unless there is one particular change that I'm interested in like the Getrag gearbox. However, I'm getting a Cooper S, so no worries. The only time I would wait is if there was an entire makeover of the car - like Honda does every 4 years.

Oct 31st, 2003, 11:53 PM	#57 (permalink)
markjenn MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 260 Offline	The Getrag gearbox, based only on reputation, might be something to give me pause to wait. It doesn't affect me since I have an S on order, but if I was considering a non-S, I'd certainly do some serious research to see how widespread complaints are on the current 5-speed. Facelifts? Don't care. I think a good parallel evolution might be the changes made in the 3-series over the last two years. If I look at both a 2002 and a 2004 330ic, I note cars that look every-so-slightly different; a re-positioned slit in the bumper or a different bend to a tail light bezel, but the change is very minor and I'd be hard pressed to say that one looks better than the other. Both look just fine, as I expect the Minis shipped now and next summer are both going to look just fine. It is mainly of concern to folks who worry about buying something that will immediately not be the latest - they really want their cars to say "I'm new." They tend to buy black cars and spend their weekends polishing them. I plan on getting mine dirty real quick. In my book, these are cars for driving, not looking at. - Mark

Nov 1st, 2003, 05:02 AM	#60 (permalink)
jsteine2 How well, not how much. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Local Time: 03:41 PM Posts: 246 Offline	I like the way it looks now, I've ordered a MC but the tranny doesn't bother me enough to wait. poki... I need to check on that... I'm hoping for the 2 spoke wheel... Hers: '02 LY/white, CVT ...... His: '04 BRG/white In order to possess what you do not possess You must go by the way of dispossession. In order to arrive at what you are not You must go through the way in which you are not. (T.S. Eliot, East Coker III)

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