[pkman]

This topic has prolly been covered 2000 times but since i am new - any quick advise on the below?

the standard Pipercross induction kit for around £85

or

the K&N 57i for £85 too??

thinking of the K&N typhoon but too expensive?

do they all suffer from overheating from city/town drives?

which one is better/should i buy???!

cheers....

p.s for the standard Mini Cooper

[notts04chillimini]

the 57i and pipercross standard cone filters are roughly the same as far as performance goes! they both undoubtably suffer from heatsoak when driving around town because niether of them are heat shielded.. wjich does in turn lower the performance! the k&n typhoon which i have is better but still has no heat shield unless you make one yourself!

the pipercross viper kit, although expensive is one of the best systems as it has a carbon fibre heatshield covering the whole filter, and a direct pipe air feed which will get cooler denser air into the intake!!

[pkman]

cheers for tips...

how does the typhoon feel under ur bonnet??
performance? noise?

and does it overheat quickly..or only if u've been driving a fair bit around town?

[The_Bster]

What year is your Cooper?

You should know that there isn't a aftermarket intake for the '05 Cooper available, except the panel one from K&N. Manufacturors are not stepping up to the plate.

However, i was told that some cutting of the intake tube will make it fit without problems.

[pkman]

Quote: Originally Posted by The_Bster

What year is your Cooper?

You should know that there isn't a aftermarket intake for the '05 Cooper available, except the panel one from K&N. Manufacturors are not stepping up to the plate.

However, i was told that some cutting of the intake tube will make it fit without problems.

um...that doesnt sound good! My Mini is a '55! Does this mean these mentioned above wont fit my car?!

[Blusox]

Can't help much with the K&N but I got myslef a second hand carbon viper and its amazing!!!! Wouldn't pay top whack for it though, but it gives a real improvment in power without a really intrusive noise (although it does make the engine sound like a V6!!!! )

Not too sure what mods need to be made to fit a new filter or induction kit to an 05 model, but the Viper just had a hose I clipped on using a pipe clip. Hope that helps!

[notts04chillimini]

Quote: Originally Posted by The_Bster

What year is your Cooper?

You should know that there isn't a aftermarket intake for the '05 Cooper available, except the panel one from K&N. Manufacturors are not stepping up to the plate.

However, i was told that some cutting of the intake tube will make it fit without problems.

however i have many friends with 05 cars that have aftermarket air intakes

there is plenty of room from the throttle body to have an induction kit!

edit here a k&n inductiojn kit for 05 cooper

http://www.knfilters.com/search/appsearch.aspx

where was your source of information???

[The_Bster]

PKMAN, as of now, K&N just came out with the new '05 cone filter. It's called the 57i Induction Kit

I just got this information today on NAM.

You can find out the reasons why the '04 filters wouldn't fit the '05 Cooper there.

[pkman]

thanks guys -

I guess its a safe bet for me to get the K&N 57i induction kit then.

[The_Bster]

Quote: Originally Posted by pkman

thanks guys -

I guess its a safe bet for me to get the K&N 57i induction kit then.

Same here! I'm actually getting it for my sister's Coop... Induction roar is so addictive!

I was really hesitant in cutting more things for the Mini(s). Thank God i waited a week!

Although I have an S, I think i'd be borrowing her car for a while... hahaha!!

[Nexus]

So a Pipercross induction kit (as sold for the last few years) does NOT fit on a 05 Cooper?
I just wanted to buy one for my to be delivered Park Lane...

[SiBradbury]

Go for the K&N my friend. They sound tons sportier and have a million mile warranty. They also need cleaning less often as the foam filters (eg Pipercross) tend to clog up more quickly.

[notts04chillimini]

the enigine bay is exactly the same on the 05's as it is on the 04! only thing changing being the gearbox! there is nothing on nam that i could find stating that they dont fit! i only looked to see the stupid reasons why people think they cant!

[The_Bster]

Quote: Originally Posted by sibradbury

Go for the K&N my friend. They sound tons sportier and have a million mile warranty. They also need cleaning less often as the foam filters (eg Pipercross) tend to clog up more quickly.

Agreed! Also isn't it safer to know from the manufacturers that it fits rather than finding out later that you got the wrong advice from ignorant people?

If you want the Pipercross intake, why don't you email them and ask them for a firm confirmation that it will fit the '05?

I emailed a few manufactorors (K&N Typhoon, Ingen Intake, and Mossmini for cobalt - bad customer service) when i was doing my search... no one could give me a firm confirmation. But i guess K&N had enough enquires for the '05 intake for them to step up to the plate, which i am really pleased about! Plus, they really are a good brand.

[notts04chillimini]

Quote: Originally Posted by The_Bster

Agreed! Also isn't it safer to know from the manufacturers that it fits rather than finding out later that you got the wrong advice from ignorant people?

If you want the Pipercross intake, why don't you email them and ask them for a firm confirmation that it will fit the '05?

I emailed a few manufactorors (K&N Typhoon, Ingen Intake, and Mossmini for cobalt - bad customer service) when i was doing my search... no one could give me a firm confirmation. But i guess K&N had enough enquires for the '05 intake for them to step up to the plate, which i am really pleased about! Plus, they really are a good brand.

i email k&n and pipercross yesterday and both have confirmed today that there is a induction kit for the 05 model, in the form of the typhoon from k&n and the viper from pipercross!

not that i want to prove a point or anything

[notts04chillimini]

I also find it frustrating to find parts for my 05 MC... But I did put the K&N Typhoon on my car and it fits, just touching the inside liner... It is on super tight though and I don't find it to be a problem with performance. It does the job. Sound is GREAT. I may just trim out a square of the hood liner to solve the problem alltogether. It also looks like the moss product is smaller than the K&N too, so it should totally fit.

Good luck -

-Steve


thats a quote from north american motoring

the k&n typhoon slightly catches the front of my plastic under bonnet but is no problem at all

[The_Bster]

Quote: Originally Posted by notts04chillimini

i email k&n and pipercross yesterday and both have confirmed today that there is a induction kit for the 05 model, in the form of the typhoon from k&n and the viper from pipercross!

not that i want to prove a point or anything

I also find it frustrating to find parts for my 05 MC... But I did put the K&N Typhoon on my car and it fits, just touching the inside liner... It is on super tight though and I don't find it to be a problem with performance. It does the job. Sound is GREAT. I may just trim out a square of the hood liner to solve the problem alltogether. It also looks like the moss product is smaller than the K&N too, so it should totally fit.

Good luck -

-Steve


thats a quote from north american motoring

the k&n typhoon slightly catches the front of my plastic under bonnet but is no problem at all

Thats what I'm saying. They NOW have the filters for '05. I'm sure you're comfortable with cutting your hood lining but most of us aren't.

And if you type K&N in the search thread in the Non-S performance section, I'm sure you'd be able to find hordes of information and complains with regards to the problems other people have had fitting '04 intakes and what they did to force it to fit.

Just quoting a sentence from NAM without depicting the whole picture is not particularly useful.

In any case, the main purpose of this thread is to find intakes that'd specifically fit the '05 without slicing, dicing and all other sorts of cutting has been served.

I'm will place my order with K&N.

[pkman]

Heh...it seems like there is a slight difference with the 2005 models...i am sure the companies will catch up tho.

I think in 2 weeks time - i will drive to PlayMini and see what they have...and get them to pput it on for me...this way, it will be safer (i am fairly dumb mechanically)

I will also get a upper and lower struct brace iinstalled (since you might also need to do some modification for them to fit onto coopers!)

I will give u guys an update!

[notts04chillimini]

Quote: Originally Posted by The_Bster

Thats what I'm saying. They NOW have the filters for '05. I'm sure you're comfortable with cutting your hood lining but most of us aren't.

And if you type K&N in the search thread in the Non-S performance section, I'm sure you'd be able to find hordes of information and complains with regards to the problems other people have had fitting '04 intakes and what they did to force it to fit.

Just quoting a sentence from NAM without depicting the whole picture is not particularly useful.

In any case, the main purpose of this thread is to find intakes that'd specifically fit the '05 without slicing, dicing and all other sorts of cutting has been served.

I'm will place my order with K&N.

it says there tho that it fits, he dosent have to cut the lining, just that he said he might because it catches!! mines an o4 car and my k&n catches aswell, i certainly wont be cutting any part of my car and dont intend to, (if its not needed)

[Wizzzz]

This has probably been answered before, but I'll ask anyways.

What happens to the cars warranty if you put this in?