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supercharged99 · Oct 22nd, 2005, 10:16 PM

hi all

well what can i say

i am running pretty much every thing possible on the car.

229 bhp @ the clutch.

whats up ?

GBMINI · Oct 22nd, 2005, 10:39 PM

Poor you

notts04chillimini · Oct 22nd, 2005, 10:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supercharged99

hi all

well what can i say

i am running pretty much every thing possible on the car.

229 bhp @ the clutch.

whats up ?

what spec is it?

im sure you cant be running everything

have you got them running hamsters in the flywheel??

229 bhp seems a pretty decent figure to me, although depends on the spec you have!

is it stuff you have put on seperate or is it part of a tuning package?

1320autos · Oct 23rd, 2005, 12:34 AM

What were you expecting supercharged99??

St00ge · Oct 23rd, 2005, 12:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by supercharged99

hi all

well what can i say

i am running pretty much every thing possible on the car.

229 bhp @ the clutch.

whats up ?

i know that one mistake i made was to do the dyno in 5th gear instead of 4th, but if you weren't as stupid as me

, maybe it was just a bad dyno, i've heard of stories of the same car run on different dynos on the same day with 30-40 hp difference.

FunkyJMan · Oct 23rd, 2005, 04:19 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by supercharged99

hi all

well what can i say

i am running pretty much every thing possible on the car.

229 bhp @ the clutch.

whats up ?

What sort of software/hardware are you running the fueling/timing on? Are you running something just like MTH or something like a Unichip?

I had the GTT 260 package plus extras and it was putting out just 205bhp until I had it remapped again and it changed to 245, that was with MTH I would like to think with something like a Unichip setup properly on a rolling road it would of put out a bit more but I don't know how much.

What do you have on your car?

Jamie

supercharged99 · Oct 23rd, 2005, 08:19 AM

yep...

running the GTT 260 ,as well as milltek and light weight crank...

uncle albert · Oct 23rd, 2005, 09:02 AM

So does this mean GTT's packages don't put out what they claim?

James

XTREEM · Oct 23rd, 2005, 09:43 AM

What did it put out at the wheels??????

FunkyJMan · Oct 23rd, 2005, 10:20 AM

I never got what I should have on either the 220 or 260 package I don't know how many others have had theres on the dyno.

My spec was...

ECU Re-Map (MTH)
Iridium Sparkplugs
17% Supercharger Pulley
GTT Twin Bearing Idler Pulley
GTT Drivebelt
GTT Cold Ram Induction Kit
GTT 16 Tube Large Top Mount Intercooler + Diffuser
Exhaust Re-route Pipe
GTT Camshafts
Adjustable Vernier Camshaft Sprocket (although I paid was never fitted

)
63mm Throttle Body
Stage 2 Gas Flowed / Ported Cylinder Head
GTT Sports Manifold & Cat
GTT Tensioner Pulley
GTT Tensioner Limit Stop
GTT Competition Lightweight Crank Pulley
JCW Injectors
40,000 Volt Ignition Coil Pack
Live Wire Ignition Lead Set

The maximum it got was actually 237 at the fly corrected to 245 due to heat loss I can't find the dyno plot to say what I got at the wheels. I don't know why GTT don't dyno the cars before and after the work has been carried out

St00ge · Oct 23rd, 2005, 11:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by FunkyJMan

I never got what I should have on either the 220 or 260 package I don't know how many others have had theres on the dyno.

My spec was...

ECU Re-Map (MTH)
Iridium Sparkplugs
17% Supercharger Pulley
GTT Twin Bearing Idler Pulley
GTT Drivebelt
GTT Cold Ram Induction Kit
GTT 16 Tube Large Top Mount Intercooler + Diffuser
Exhaust Re-route Pipe
GTT Camshafts
Adjustable Vernier Camshaft Sprocket (although I paid was never fitted

)
63mm Throttle Body
Stage 2 Gas Flowed / Ported Cylinder Head
GTT Sports Manifold & Cat
GTT Tensioner Pulley
GTT Tensioner Limit Stop
GTT Competition Lightweight Crank Pulley
JCW Injectors
40,000 Volt Ignition Coil Pack
Live Wire Ignition Lead Set

The maximum it got was actually 237 at the fly corrected to 245 due to heat loss I can't find the dyno plot to say what I got at the wheels. I don't know why GTT don't dyno the cars before and after the work has been carried out

How can I go about getting a set of the JCW Injectors?

Elie

RedUn · Oct 23rd, 2005, 12:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supercharged99

hi all

well what can i say

i am running pretty much every thing possible on the car.

229 bhp @ the clutch.

whats up ?

what temp was it when you had it rolled??

if it wasn't a particular warm day the only things I can think of at the moment are

1. the software on your car is setup pants
2. are you sure that the parts you say have been fitted are fitted?

3. your car was a particulary low power car as std
4. GTT makes up random power figures for their kits

RedUn · Oct 23rd, 2005, 12:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by etalj

How can I go about getting a set of the JCW Injectors?

Elie

pretty sure your dealer will be able to order some in for you

XTREEM · Oct 23rd, 2005, 12:52 PM

You can pay a fortune from BMW Australia or import them from one of the American shops.. But you really dont need them at this stage. Even with the 17% you plan its probably not a must.

supercharged99 · Oct 23rd, 2005, 02:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RedUn

what temp was it when you had it rolled??

if it wasn't a particular warm day the only things I can think of at the moment are

1. the software on your car is setup pants
2. are you sure that the parts you say have been fitted are fitted?

3. your car was a particulary low power car as std
4. GTT makes up random power figures for their kits

i had the west - tuning 210 bhp before i went the 260 bhp one.

all the parts were fitted.
i thought GTT used MTH.

SO I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO'S CAR IS DOWN ON POWER ??

if i wanted 230 bhp i would have paid for that.not the extra £2000 for no extra horses.

temp.that day was 13*C

1320autos · Oct 23rd, 2005, 03:25 PM

Supercharged, have you weighed it with you in it yet?? If you do this will confirm what 1/4 mile horsepower you have got and thus back up the rolling road figures or not.

What rpm was it peaking out at??

Have you leakdown or compression tested the engine?

Sometimes these pieces of metal wind us up good and proper, my mates car didn't achieve what it should of achieve over the 1/4 mile for about 6 months but I finally found the problem to be a knackered battery and the alternator wired up wrong, we went from an 8.68 to an 8.38, the worst thing was it probably cost him 3 championships.

You just got to keep at it its in there somewhere.

RedUn · Oct 23rd, 2005, 06:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supercharged99

i had the west - tuning 210 bhp before i went the 260 bhp one.

all the parts were fitted.
i thought GTT used MTH.

SO I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO'S CAR IS DOWN ON POWER ??

if i wanted 230 bhp i would have paid for that.not the extra £2000 for no extra horses.

temp.that day was 13*C

can you tell much diff between the 210 and 260 ??

hmmm i'd be tempted if I was you to go get it mapped "proper" somewhere and see what sorta power you can extract out of it then, if it's still the same there must be a fault somewhere or the GTT power figures are a little optimistic, have yo spoke to Roland about this?

13C should be fine really

supercharged99 · Oct 23rd, 2005, 07:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RedUn

can you tell much diff between the 210 and 260 ??

hmmm i'd be tempted if I was you to go get it mapped "proper" somewhere and see what sorta power you can extract out of it then, if it's still the same there must be a fault somewhere or the GTT power figures are a little optimistic, have yo spoke to Roland about this?

13C should be fine really

the differance between std. and 210 is impressive.

the differance between 210 and what i'm running now is feels even better.

i will contact ROLAND tomorrow....

anyone got a DECENT map for there modded mini ??????

supercharged99 · Oct 23rd, 2005, 07:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos

Supercharged, have you weighed it with you in it yet?? If you do this will confirm what 1/4 mile horsepower you have got and thus back up the rolling road figures or not.

What rpm was it peaking out at??

Have you leakdown or compression tested the engine?

Sometimes these pieces of metal wind us up good and proper, my mates car didn't achieve what it should of achieve over the 1/4 mile for about 6 months but I finally found the problem to be a knackered battery and the alternator wired up wrong, we went from an 8.68 to an 8.38, the worst thing was it probably cost him 3 championships.

You just got to keep at it its in there somewhere.

peak RPM. is 6980.

tried the 1/4 mile calculater , works out to around 255 bhp.... but i rather have a dyno run.

the car was under 80 % load when dynoed.( apparently turbo cars need to run @ this load .)

1320autos · Oct 23rd, 2005, 08:53 PM

So are you saying that you weigh in at 3044lb?

http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php

Funny I'd rather have a 1/4 mile run than a rolling road / dyno run due to the fact that you don't race a dyno / rolling road but I suppose it doesn't matter whether its raining or not

Oct 22nd, 2005, 10:16 PM	#1
supercharged99 clinton steenkamp Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: west yorkshire Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 325 Offline	poor dyno result ? hi all well what can i say i am running pretty much every thing possible on the car. 229 bhp @ the clutch. whats up ? yeeeeeehaaaaaaa DAMN THIS THING IS QUICK

Oct 22nd, 2005, 10:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
GBMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gloucester, MA, USA Local Time: 12:23 PM Posts: 7,565 Offline	Poor you Ian C. Gloucester, MA, USA (UK expat) driving GPMINI and Convertible GBMINI#6

Oct 23rd, 2005, 12:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	What were you expecting supercharged99?? Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

Oct 23rd, 2005, 08:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
supercharged99 clinton steenkamp Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: west yorkshire Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 325 Offline	yep... running the GTT 260 ,as well as milltek and light weight crank... yeeeeeehaaaaaaa DAMN THIS THING IS QUICK

Oct 23rd, 2005, 02:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
supercharged99 clinton steenkamp Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: west yorkshire Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 325 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by RedUn what temp was it when you had it rolled?? if it wasn't a particular warm day the only things I can think of at the moment are 1. the software on your car is setup pants 2. are you sure that the parts you say have been fitted are fitted? 3. your car was a particulary low power car as std 4. GTT makes up random power figures for their kits i had the west - tuning 210 bhp before i went the 260 bhp one. all the parts were fitted. i thought GTT used MTH. SO I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO'S CAR IS DOWN ON POWER ?? if i wanted 230 bhp i would have paid for that.not the extra £2000 for no extra horses. temp.that day was 13*C yeeeeeehaaaaaaa DAMN THIS THING IS QUICK

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Oct 22nd, 2005, 10:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
notts04chillimini hey lightbulb head.... Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nottingham Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 1,429 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by supercharged99 hi all well what can i say i am running pretty much every thing possible on the car. 229 bhp @ the clutch. whats up ? what spec is it? im sure you cant be running everything have you got them running hamsters in the flywheel?? 229 bhp seems a pretty decent figure to me, although depends on the spec you have! is it stuff you have put on seperate or is it part of a tuning package?

Oct 23rd, 2005, 12:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 02:23 AM Posts: 2,864 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by supercharged99 hi all well what can i say i am running pretty much every thing possible on the car. 229 bhp @ the clutch. whats up ? i know that one mistake i made was to do the dyno in 5th gear instead of 4th, but if you weren't as stupid as me , maybe it was just a bad dyno, i've heard of stories of the same car run on different dynos on the same day with 30-40 hp difference.

Oct 23rd, 2005, 04:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
FunkyJMan MINI Mover Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 121 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by supercharged99 hi all well what can i say i am running pretty much every thing possible on the car. 229 bhp @ the clutch. whats up ? What sort of software/hardware are you running the fueling/timing on? Are you running something just like MTH or something like a Unichip? I had the GTT 260 package plus extras and it was putting out just 205bhp until I had it remapped again and it changed to 245, that was with MTH I would like to think with something like a Unichip setup properly on a rolling road it would of put out a bit more but I don't know how much. What do you have on your car? Jamie

Oct 23rd, 2005, 09:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
uncle albert MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefrd/Bath/Cwmbran Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 818 Offline	So does this mean GTT's packages don't put out what they claim? James

Oct 23rd, 2005, 09:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
XTREEM MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Batemans Bay Local Time: 03:23 AM Posts: 845 Offline	What did it put out at the wheels??????

Oct 23rd, 2005, 10:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
FunkyJMan MINI Mover Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 121 Offline	I never got what I should have on either the 220 or 260 package I don't know how many others have had theres on the dyno. My spec was... ECU Re-Map (MTH) Iridium Sparkplugs 17% Supercharger Pulley GTT Twin Bearing Idler Pulley GTT Drivebelt GTT Cold Ram Induction Kit GTT 16 Tube Large Top Mount Intercooler + Diffuser Exhaust Re-route Pipe GTT Camshafts Adjustable Vernier Camshaft Sprocket (although I paid was never fitted ) 63mm Throttle Body Stage 2 Gas Flowed / Ported Cylinder Head GTT Sports Manifold & Cat GTT Tensioner Pulley GTT Tensioner Limit Stop GTT Competition Lightweight Crank Pulley JCW Injectors 40,000 Volt Ignition Coil Pack Live Wire Ignition Lead Set The maximum it got was actually 237 at the fly corrected to 245 due to heat loss I can't find the dyno plot to say what I got at the wheels. I don't know why GTT don't dyno the cars before and after the work has been carried out

Oct 23rd, 2005, 11:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 02:23 AM Posts: 2,864 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by FunkyJMan I never got what I should have on either the 220 or 260 package I don't know how many others have had theres on the dyno. My spec was... ECU Re-Map (MTH) Iridium Sparkplugs 17% Supercharger Pulley GTT Twin Bearing Idler Pulley GTT Drivebelt GTT Cold Ram Induction Kit GTT 16 Tube Large Top Mount Intercooler + Diffuser Exhaust Re-route Pipe GTT Camshafts Adjustable Vernier Camshaft Sprocket (although I paid was never fitted ) 63mm Throttle Body Stage 2 Gas Flowed / Ported Cylinder Head GTT Sports Manifold & Cat GTT Tensioner Pulley GTT Tensioner Limit Stop GTT Competition Lightweight Crank Pulley JCW Injectors 40,000 Volt Ignition Coil Pack Live Wire Ignition Lead Set The maximum it got was actually 237 at the fly corrected to 245 due to heat loss I can't find the dyno plot to say what I got at the wheels. I don't know why GTT don't dyno the cars before and after the work has been carried out How can I go about getting a set of the JCW Injectors? Elie

Oct 23rd, 2005, 12:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 11,615 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by supercharged99 hi all well what can i say i am running pretty much every thing possible on the car. 229 bhp @ the clutch. whats up ? what temp was it when you had it rolled?? if it wasn't a particular warm day the only things I can think of at the moment are 1. the software on your car is setup pants 2. are you sure that the parts you say have been fitted are fitted? 3. your car was a particulary low power car as std 4. GTT makes up random power figures for their kits

Oct 23rd, 2005, 12:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 11,615 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by etalj How can I go about getting a set of the JCW Injectors? Elie pretty sure your dealer will be able to order some in for you

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XTREEM MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Batemans Bay Local Time: 03:23 AM Posts: 845 Offline	You can pay a fortune from BMW Australia or import them from one of the American shops.. But you really dont need them at this stage. Even with the 17% you plan its probably not a must.

Oct 23rd, 2005, 03:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	Supercharged, have you weighed it with you in it yet?? If you do this will confirm what 1/4 mile horsepower you have got and thus back up the rolling road figures or not. What rpm was it peaking out at?? Have you leakdown or compression tested the engine? Sometimes these pieces of metal wind us up good and proper, my mates car didn't achieve what it should of achieve over the 1/4 mile for about 6 months but I finally found the problem to be a knackered battery and the alternator wired up wrong, we went from an 8.68 to an 8.38, the worst thing was it probably cost him 3 championships. You just got to keep at it its in there somewhere. Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

Oct 23rd, 2005, 06:13 PM	#17 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 11,615 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by supercharged99 i had the west - tuning 210 bhp before i went the 260 bhp one. all the parts were fitted. i thought GTT used MTH. SO I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO'S CAR IS DOWN ON POWER ?? if i wanted 230 bhp i would have paid for that.not the extra £2000 for no extra horses. temp.that day was 13*C can you tell much diff between the 210 and 260 ?? hmmm i'd be tempted if I was you to go get it mapped "proper" somewhere and see what sorta power you can extract out of it then, if it's still the same there must be a fault somewhere or the GTT power figures are a little optimistic, have yo spoke to Roland about this? 13C should be fine really

Oct 23rd, 2005, 07:47 PM	#18 (permalink)
supercharged99 clinton steenkamp Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: west yorkshire Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 325 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by RedUn can you tell much diff between the 210 and 260 ?? hmmm i'd be tempted if I was you to go get it mapped "proper" somewhere and see what sorta power you can extract out of it then, if it's still the same there must be a fault somewhere or the GTT power figures are a little optimistic, have yo spoke to Roland about this? 13C should be fine really the differance between std. and 210 is impressive. the differance between 210 and what i'm running now is feels even better. i will contact ROLAND tomorrow.... anyone got a DECENT map for there modded mini ?????? yeeeeeehaaaaaaa DAMN THIS THING IS QUICK

Oct 23rd, 2005, 07:52 PM	#19 (permalink)
supercharged99 clinton steenkamp Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: west yorkshire Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 325 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos Supercharged, have you weighed it with you in it yet?? If you do this will confirm what 1/4 mile horsepower you have got and thus back up the rolling road figures or not. What rpm was it peaking out at?? Have you leakdown or compression tested the engine? Sometimes these pieces of metal wind us up good and proper, my mates car didn't achieve what it should of achieve over the 1/4 mile for about 6 months but I finally found the problem to be a knackered battery and the alternator wired up wrong, we went from an 8.68 to an 8.38, the worst thing was it probably cost him 3 championships. You just got to keep at it its in there somewhere. peak RPM. is 6980. tried the 1/4 mile calculater , works out to around 255 bhp.... but i rather have a dyno run. the car was under 80 % load when dynoed.( apparently turbo cars need to run @ this load .) yeeeeeehaaaaaaa DAMN THIS THING IS QUICK

Oct 23rd, 2005, 08:53 PM	#20 (permalink)
1320autos MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 1,928 Offline	So are you saying that you weigh in at 3044lb? http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php Funny I'd rather have a 1/4 mile run than a rolling road / dyno run due to the fact that you don't race a dyno / rolling road but I suppose it doesn't matter whether its raining or not Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND BUT HOW WELL YOU SPEND IT

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