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misha · Oct 26th, 2005, 12:08 AM

Is it normal to get 18 MPG (or 230-235 miles per tank) on my '05 MCS on a mixed cycle? I have 4k miles and believe engine has been properly run-in.

I took my car to two different dealerships and all they say is that I "have to understand that this is a turbo car and I will never get the EPA milage declared on the sticker" and "you have to run the engine in up to 15k to start feeling any difference in the gas milage." Franky speaking, I have a strong feeling that dealers just do not want to deal with the warranty work and trying to get rid of me by telling me all those stories.

Any suggestions?

Paul · Oct 26th, 2005, 12:25 AM

18 mpg is not great, but it depends how "enthusiastic" you are behind the wheel, and also if you do a lot of stop start driving?

The car's supercharged for a start, so I hope the dealers didn't tell you about it being turbo, or I'd be worried starting right there!

I would expect in the region of 21.5 to 24 mpg depending on how and where I drove it, I suppose my average was around the 22.5 for regular town driving.

Restyle · Oct 26th, 2005, 12:43 AM

If its driven "enthusiastically" then I would`nt expect more than around 18mpg
But if using Cruise at 70 then 35+ is easily possible

misha · Oct 26th, 2005, 12:46 AM

Maybe my calculations are wrong, but I get 230-235 miles per tank, and on my last trip to a dealer they measured my tank at 13.2 gallons. And yes, dealer specifically noted that "turbo cars use more gas"

MINIAC · Oct 26th, 2005, 12:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by misha

Is it normal to get 18 MPG on my '05 MCS on a mixed cycle?

When it comes to MPG, the terms "city driving" and "mixed driving" aren't very meaningful. If you have an OBC it's more meaningful to report the MPH you average per tank in addition to your MPG.

As an example, the worst I've gotten in my 2002 MCS was 17 MPG when I averaged 15 MPH driving solely on the streets of San Francisco. On the other end of the spectrum, I've done 16K miles of driving at highway speed on trips to SoCal and Oregon, averaging 31 MPG.

The more stop and go driving you do in an MCS the more your MPG will suck

misha · Oct 26th, 2005, 12:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC

When it comes to MPG, the terms "city driving" and "mixed driving" aren't very meaningful. If you have an OBC it's more meaningful to report the MPH you average per tank in addition to your MPG.

As an example, the worst I've gotten in my 2002 MCS was 17 MPG when I averaged 15 MPH driving solely on the streets of San Francisco. On the other end of the spectrum, I've done 16K miles of driving at highway speed on trips to SoCal and Oregon, averaging 31 MPG.

The more stop and go driving you do in an MCS the more your MPG will suck

Which dealerships do take your Mini for service?

SaratogaMini · Oct 26th, 2005, 01:17 AM

I have a 2005 MCS with 6K miles on it. I am getting 29 MPG pretty consistently with mixed highway and city driving. I was getting around 25 during the first month of new car enthusiastic driving.

Are you new to driving with a stick shift? If so, let an experienced stick shift driver watch you drive and see if you are shifting ok. Just an idea.

Or take it to another MINI dealer.

MINIAC · Oct 26th, 2005, 01:27 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by misha

Which dealerships do take your Mini for service?

East Bay MINI in Pleasanton

misha · Oct 26th, 2005, 02:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by SaratogaMini

Are you new to driving with a stick shift? If so, let an experienced stick shift driver watch you drive and see if you are shifting ok. Just an idea.

Or take it to another MINI dealer.

No, I drive stick shift for the past 9 years or so.

As far as MINI dealers, the ones that I went to saying that 230-235 miles per tank is absolutely normal. Maybe it's just me, but I take everything a dealer says with a grain of salt.

Ferroequine · Oct 26th, 2005, 07:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by misha

Maybe it's just me, but I take everything a dealer says with a grain of salt.

Especially if they want to do work on your "turbo"...

Oct 26th, 2005, 12:08 AM	#1
misha MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Local Time: 02:27 PM Posts: 4 Offline	Gas milage on MCS!!! Is it normal to get 18 MPG (or 230-235 miles per tank) on my '05 MCS on a mixed cycle? I have 4k miles and believe engine has been properly run-in. I took my car to two different dealerships and all they say is that I "have to understand that this is a turbo car and I will never get the EPA milage declared on the sticker" and "you have to run the engine in up to 15k to start feeling any difference in the gas milage." Franky speaking, I have a strong feeling that dealers just do not want to deal with the warranty work and trying to get rid of me by telling me all those stories. Any suggestions? Last edited by misha : Oct 26th, 2005 at 03:51 AM.

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Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 09:27 PM Posts: 40,354 Online	18 mpg is not great, but it depends how "enthusiastic" you are behind the wheel, and also if you do a lot of stop start driving? The car's supercharged for a start, so I hope the dealers didn't tell you about it being turbo, or I'd be worried starting right there! I would expect in the region of 21.5 to 24 mpg depending on how and where I drove it, I suppose my average was around the 22.5 for regular town driving. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

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Restyle Damned My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Shropshire Local Time: 09:27 PM Posts: 4,266 Offline	If its driven "enthusiastically" then I would`nt expect more than around 18mpg But if using Cruise at 70 then 35+ is easily possible In da Wud

Oct 26th, 2005, 12:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
misha MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Local Time: 02:27 PM Posts: 4 Offline	Gas milage Maybe my calculations are wrong, but I get 230-235 miles per tank, and on my last trip to a dealer they measured my tank at 13.2 gallons. And yes, dealer specifically noted that "turbo cars use more gas"

Oct 26th, 2005, 02:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
misha MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Local Time: 02:27 PM Posts: 4 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SaratogaMini Are you new to driving with a stick shift? If so, let an experienced stick shift driver watch you drive and see if you are shifting ok. Just an idea. Or take it to another MINI dealer. No, I drive stick shift for the past 9 years or so. As far as MINI dealers, the ones that I went to saying that 230-235 miles per tank is absolutely normal. Maybe it's just me, but I take everything a dealer says with a grain of salt. Last edited by misha : Oct 26th, 2005 at 03:52 AM.

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Oct 26th, 2005, 12:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 01:27 PM Posts: 8,618 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by misha Is it normal to get 18 MPG on my '05 MCS on a mixed cycle? When it comes to MPG, the terms "city driving" and "mixed driving" aren't very meaningful. If you have an OBC it's more meaningful to report the MPH you average per tank in addition to your MPG. As an example, the worst I've gotten in my 2002 MCS was 17 MPG when I averaged 15 MPH driving solely on the streets of San Francisco. On the other end of the spectrum, I've done 16K miles of driving at highway speed on trips to SoCal and Oregon, averaging 31 MPG. The more stop and go driving you do in an MCS the more your MPG will suck

Oct 26th, 2005, 12:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
misha MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Local Time: 02:27 PM Posts: 4 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC When it comes to MPG, the terms "city driving" and "mixed driving" aren't very meaningful. If you have an OBC it's more meaningful to report the MPH you average per tank in addition to your MPG. As an example, the worst I've gotten in my 2002 MCS was 17 MPG when I averaged 15 MPH driving solely on the streets of San Francisco. On the other end of the spectrum, I've done 16K miles of driving at highway speed on trips to SoCal and Oregon, averaging 31 MPG. The more stop and go driving you do in an MCS the more your MPG will suck Which dealerships do take your Mini for service?

Oct 26th, 2005, 01:17 AM	#7 (permalink)
SaratogaMini MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 16 Offline	I have a 2005 MCS with 6K miles on it. I am getting 29 MPG pretty consistently with mixed highway and city driving. I was getting around 25 during the first month of new car enthusiastic driving. Are you new to driving with a stick shift? If so, let an experienced stick shift driver watch you drive and see if you are shifting ok. Just an idea. Or take it to another MINI dealer.

Oct 26th, 2005, 01:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 01:27 PM Posts: 8,618 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by misha Which dealerships do take your Mini for service? East Bay MINI in Pleasanton

Oct 26th, 2005, 07:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ferroequine Formerly known as MiniVee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Calgary Local Time: 02:27 PM Posts: 1,320 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by misha Maybe it's just me, but I take everything a dealer says with a grain of salt. Especially if they want to do work on your "turbo"...

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