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AndytheScientist · Oct 29th, 2005, 03:02 PM

Just a quick question, which fuel is better shell optimax or bp ultimate? Both are supposed to clean, but are both higher RON? I think ultimate is 97 RON, not sure about optimax though, the shell website does not say.

Any opinions?

Martin L · Oct 29th, 2005, 03:11 PM

Optimax is around 98 RON maybe even touching 99

Shell is better as it's cheaper

118 · Oct 29th, 2005, 03:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

Optimax is around 98 RON maybe even touching 99

Shell is better as it's cheaper

yeah I thought it was around 98 or 99 RON. I prefer Optimax - have tried both, but went back to Optimax though as my MCS just seemed to prefer it over the Ultimate

XTREEM · Oct 29th, 2005, 03:54 PM

They are both advertised as 98ron here in OZ, my car prefers optimax.

St00ge · Oct 29th, 2005, 04:27 PM

hey, i've heard that optimax is rated 98RON from the refinary, and BP Ultimate is rated as 102RON from the factory. I've only heard it from one person, but it sorta feels as if the ultimate burns better. However, i've tried both, and although the ultimate is much smoother, the optimax feels more powerful and more responsive.

My two cents.

Elie

UKC4 · Oct 29th, 2005, 04:37 PM

Both Optimax and Ultimate are from the same Shell refinery!!

Shell has 99ron, and ultimate has 98 ron.

Both help your engine to be cleaner in polution terms and in engine terms. They also give your engine a bit more off the mark responce (Like pulling out at a junction or roundabout).

For the price of Ultimate I would go for shell as it is 1p cheaper, so you get better ron but not as deer. (The prices may vary, but round my neck of the woods this seems to be the norm)!!!

Baker · Oct 30th, 2005, 10:01 AM

Its not from the same refinery here in Aus

doona · Oct 30th, 2005, 11:09 AM

I am sticking with ultimate... rumour is that the quality of optimax is not what it was when first released and that the ultimate is better

St00ge · Oct 30th, 2005, 11:23 AM

that's what i've heard too
i'll second that

fifi_li · Oct 30th, 2005, 11:47 AM

This is interesting, our other car is pretty highly tuned and it really only runs smoothly on optimax and 98 ron fuels when we are abroad. As soon as you get a couple of tank fulls of BP ultimate into it performance defiantely degrades and its noticeably quieter on the overun.

St00ge · Oct 30th, 2005, 01:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by fifi_li

This is interesting, our other car is pretty highly tuned and it really only runs smoothly on optimax and 98 ron fuels when we are abroad. As soon as you get a couple of tank fulls of BP ultimate into it performance defiantely degrades and its noticeably quieter on the overun.

but ultimate is 98RON too

fifi_li · Oct 30th, 2005, 01:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by etalj

but ultimate is 98RON too

I think in the UK its 97, but in OZ is probably the real stuff!

wils · Oct 30th, 2005, 02:03 PM

just from my observations...
my car seems to run better and is less thirsty using shell optimax
doesn't last as long as is noisier with bp ultimate?
just what i've noticed...could be my imagination

wils

St00ge · Oct 30th, 2005, 02:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wsw

just from my observations...
my car seems to run better and is less thirsty using shell optimax
doesn't last as long as is noisier with bp ultimate?
just what i've noticed...could be my imagination

wils

it seems to be more thirsty on ultimate with me too, and less responsive, and less overrun burble too, but i think there's more octane in ultimate, so i'll stay on ultimate...

wils · Oct 30th, 2005, 02:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by etalj

it seems to be more thirsty on ultimate with me too, and less responsive, and less overrun burble too, but i think there's more octane in ultimate, so i'll stay on ultimate...

so ur happy to stay on something that costs u more money coz u have to go fill it up more often, makes ur car noisier and slower just because someone once told u that there's more octane in it? well it's ur car, so ur choice haha

i was told that optimax wasn't as good as ultimate or mobile 8000 coz they said that those ones were richer in octane but then after testing again and again i kept finding that my car prefered optimax
so i stuck to it...oh well it's really up to personal preference anyway

wils

RedUn · Oct 30th, 2005, 03:45 PM

optimax - it's the only way

UKC4 · Oct 30th, 2005, 04:54 PM

like i say same old stuff just different dosages.

OldRick · Oct 30th, 2005, 05:09 PM

Both have one major ingredient in common - Marketing...

miniboyblue · Oct 30th, 2005, 07:36 PM

Maybe good marketing, but in my experience talented engineers like Rowland @ GTT recommend Optimax and that's what I use

Baker · Oct 30th, 2005, 10:52 PM

This should really be split into 2 different threads, as in Aus its quite different

Oct 29th, 2005, 03:02 PM	#1
AndytheScientist MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Newcastle Local Time: 10:21 PM Posts: 115 Offline	Optimax or Ultimate? Just a quick question, which fuel is better shell optimax or bp ultimate? Both are supposed to clean, but are both higher RON? I think ultimate is 97 RON, not sure about optimax though, the shell website does not say. Any opinions?

Oct 29th, 2005, 03:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 09:21 PM Posts: 13,666 Offline	Optimax is around 98 RON maybe even touching 99 Shell is better as it's cheaper MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

Oct 29th, 2005, 03:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
118 only 2 sleeps now, wahooo Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Sussex Local Time: 09:21 PM Posts: 20,991 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L Optimax is around 98 RON maybe even touching 99 Shell is better as it's cheaper yeah I thought it was around 98 or 99 RON. I prefer Optimax - have tried both, but went back to Optimax though as my MCS just seemed to prefer it over the Ultimate clicky here to visit the Union Jack Owners Club thread Twixys Rubber Ducky

Oct 30th, 2005, 02:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
wils formerly known as wsw Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 08:21 AM Posts: 642 Offline	just from my observations... my car seems to run better and is less thirsty using shell optimax doesn't last as long as is noisier with bp ultimate? just what i've noticed...could be my imagination wils i got an exhaust because i wanted to make my car sound fast, but its not fast at all, so therefore i am a ricer....

Oct 30th, 2005, 02:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
wils formerly known as wsw Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 08:21 AM Posts: 642 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by etalj it seems to be more thirsty on ultimate with me too, and less responsive, and less overrun burble too, but i think there's more octane in ultimate, so i'll stay on ultimate... so ur happy to stay on something that costs u more money coz u have to go fill it up more often, makes ur car noisier and slower just because someone once told u that there's more octane in it? well it's ur car, so ur choice haha i was told that optimax wasn't as good as ultimate or mobile 8000 coz they said that those ones were richer in octane but then after testing again and again i kept finding that my car prefered optimax so i stuck to it...oh well it's really up to personal preference anyway wils i got an exhaust because i wanted to make my car sound fast, but its not fast at all, so therefore i am a ricer....

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Oct 29th, 2005, 03:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
XTREEM MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Batemans Bay Local Time: 08:21 AM Posts: 836 Offline	They are both advertised as 98ron here in OZ, my car prefers optimax.

Oct 29th, 2005, 04:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:21 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	hey, i've heard that optimax is rated 98RON from the refinary, and BP Ultimate is rated as 102RON from the factory. I've only heard it from one person, but it sorta feels as if the ultimate burns better. However, i've tried both, and although the ultimate is much smoother, the optimax feels more powerful and more responsive. My two cents. Elie

Oct 29th, 2005, 04:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
UKC4 MINI2 Sex God & etc...... My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bradford Local Time: 10:21 PM Posts: 1,316 Offline	Both Optimax and Ultimate are from the same Shell refinery!! Shell has 99ron, and ultimate has 98 ron. Both help your engine to be cleaner in polution terms and in engine terms. They also give your engine a bit more off the mark responce (Like pulling out at a junction or roundabout). For the price of Ultimate I would go for shell as it is 1p cheaper, so you get better ron but not as deer. (The prices may vary, but round my neck of the woods this seems to be the norm)!!!

Oct 30th, 2005, 10:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
Baker Being normal is not fun! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle, Australia Local Time: 07:21 AM Posts: 4,115 Offline	Its not from the same refinery here in Aus

Oct 30th, 2005, 11:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
doona ......... Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 07:21 AM Posts: 2,802 Offline	I am sticking with ultimate... rumour is that the quality of optimax is not what it was when first released and that the ultimate is better

Oct 30th, 2005, 11:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:21 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	that's what i've heard too i'll second that

Oct 30th, 2005, 11:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
fifi_li ------------- Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: london Local Time: 10:21 PM Posts: 46 Offline	This is interesting, our other car is pretty highly tuned and it really only runs smoothly on optimax and 98 ron fuels when we are abroad. As soon as you get a couple of tank fulls of BP ultimate into it performance defiantely degrades and its noticeably quieter on the overun.

Oct 30th, 2005, 01:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:21 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by fifi_li This is interesting, our other car is pretty highly tuned and it really only runs smoothly on optimax and 98 ron fuels when we are abroad. As soon as you get a couple of tank fulls of BP ultimate into it performance defiantely degrades and its noticeably quieter on the overun. but ultimate is 98RON too

Oct 30th, 2005, 01:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
fifi_li ------------- Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: london Local Time: 10:21 PM Posts: 46 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by etalj but ultimate is 98RON too I think in the UK its 97, but in OZ is probably the real stuff!

Oct 30th, 2005, 02:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:21 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by wsw just from my observations... my car seems to run better and is less thirsty using shell optimax doesn't last as long as is noisier with bp ultimate? just what i've noticed...could be my imagination wils it seems to be more thirsty on ultimate with me too, and less responsive, and less overrun burble too, but i think there's more octane in ultimate, so i'll stay on ultimate...

Oct 30th, 2005, 03:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 10:21 PM Posts: 11,504 Offline	optimax - it's the only way

Oct 30th, 2005, 04:54 PM	#17 (permalink)
UKC4 MINI2 Sex God & etc...... My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bradford Local Time: 10:21 PM Posts: 1,316 Offline	like i say same old stuff just different dosages.

Oct 30th, 2005, 05:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
OldRick 40-yr. sports car tweaker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oregon Local Time: 02:21 PM Posts: 96 Offline	Both have one major ingredient in common - Marketing...

Oct 30th, 2005, 07:36 PM	#19 (permalink)
miniboyblue GTT........See Yah Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Radlett,Herts Local Time: 10:21 PM Posts: 427 Offline	Maybe good marketing, but in my experience talented engineers like Rowland @ GTT recommend Optimax and that's what I use

Oct 30th, 2005, 10:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
Baker Being normal is not fun! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle, Australia Local Time: 07:21 AM Posts: 4,115 Offline	This should really be split into 2 different threads, as in Aus its quite different

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