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fastfritz · Dec 4th, 2005, 10:34 PM

Has anyone figured out how to remove electronic speed cut off. Is it in the software or ingnition system. MCS's in Europe run to 163, what's their secret.

GBMINI · Dec 4th, 2005, 11:35 PM

I have repeatedly read that there is no actual cut out - it is just that the engine doesn't have the power to push the car any faster through the air!

Stevie B · Dec 4th, 2005, 11:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GBMINI

I have repeatedly read that there is no actual cut out - it is just that the engine doesn't have the power to push the car any faster through the air!

I've had my MCS right at indicated 140 mph on a straight and level section of the Autobahn. It got there relatively quick, but it didn't seem as if it would do much more, as the motor was spinning near redline. That's when I found out my car had the dreaded wind noise leak in the windshield. Incredibly loud, starting at around 110. I've since had MINI reseal the shield, but haven't been out to test it now that my winter tires are mounted.

fraujmj · Dec 5th, 2005, 07:12 AM

Well, I was curious about this too . . . I could be wrong but my "education" has taught me that all American cars have a "governor" that will not allow you to drive over a certain speed. However, since I passed my break-in this week I did make a road trip and pushed it to 120 mph, and it didn't cut out, but I do agree - I was going uphill but was hitting over 5 - close to redline just not quite there yet and backed off. I was surprised that the car itself didn't limit my speed. Ahh . . . the joys of the German autobahn!!!! So I was wondering if the MINI actually does have a speed governor?!!

northandy · Dec 5th, 2005, 07:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by fastfritz

Has anyone figured out how to remove electronic speed cut off. Is it in the software or ingnition system. MCS's in Europe run to 163, what's their secret.

its the law of physics... theres no limiter or cut off....

163 mph in a mini ?... my last car (porsche boxster 3.2s) was only capable of 163 mph flat out, and that has 252 bhp and way better aerodynamics...

Haggi · Dec 5th, 2005, 11:19 AM

lol the minis top speed (cooper s) is between 136 and 143 mph as engines do differ a small ammount and the 05 uk plate are 170 bhp as well but when the rev limiter is hit be it cooper, one or 'S' the engine will ease you off so you are not buring the linits of the gear box as it happens in all gears

Neil the Hat · Dec 5th, 2005, 03:58 PM

Apart from a rev limiter I have not heard or read anything about the Mini having a speed limiter.

I recently hit 136mph (two up, full tank of fuel and weekend bags) in Germany too and at around 5k revs, I think it would have done over 140 had I not had to slow down for traffic.

163 seems a little optimistic - though maybe with half a tank, downhill and with only the driver - oh and a near gale up the chuff!!

Mister · Dec 5th, 2005, 04:46 PM

I've gotten my S to 130 at revs just under 5 with a full tank of gas traveling on a slight incline. It felt as if the car could do way more, but I got a little freaked out and backed off the accelerator.

It was quite a thrill, but because I was on a toll road that runs parallel to bumper to bumper freeway traffic, I couldn't shake the thought of possibly having a blowout, which, at 130, would send my car hurtling into traffic possibly killing a bunch of people, myself included.

When I had my Cooper, I topped out at 123 at 5 revs but only because I had the same feeling of doom. I'm sure it would have done much more.

I'm a scaredy cat

Nick_MSM · Dec 5th, 2005, 04:50 PM

I think he means the S is geared to top out at 163mph and not actually achieve that speed?

Without one almighty long hill anyway and a tailwind!

:: Jon :: · Dec 5th, 2005, 07:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by fiesta dan

ive gone off the clock in my S - 150mph, mrs said on snooper was showing speed of 153mph,she then shouted at me and slowed down again.

what mods have you got?

Fevs · Dec 5th, 2005, 07:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by johnmorgan1980

what mods have you got?

jet pack

:: Jon :: · Dec 5th, 2005, 07:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by fevs

jet pack

Shaun · Dec 6th, 2005, 12:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by johnmorgan1980

what mods have you got?

Gran Turismo

widget · Dec 6th, 2005, 08:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by fraujmj

American cars have a "governor" that will not allow you to drive over a certain speed.

Yep. They're sh

t.

RedUn · Dec 6th, 2005, 09:40 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by charlie croaker

lol the minis top speed (cooper s) is between 136 and 143 mph as engines do differ a small ammount and the 05 uk plate are 170 bhp as well but when the rev limiter is hit be it cooper, one or 'S' the engine will ease you off so you are not buring the linits of the gear box as it happens in all gears

your onto something there, the new cars are limited to 143mph......as far as I can tell (tested against and older car that will pull off the clock)

remapping the ecu seems to get rid of this problem

but the gearing on the new cars is gonna limit the top speed a lot, i've been quite close to the rev limiter in 6th gear a few times now

RedUn · Dec 6th, 2005, 09:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by northandy

its the law of physics... theres no limiter or cut off....

163 mph in a mini ?... my last car (porsche boxster 3.2s) was only capable of 163 mph flat out, and that has 252 bhp and way better aerodynamics...

don't forget it depends on the power curve and gearing as well

RedUn · Dec 6th, 2005, 09:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by fiesta dan

ive gone off the clock in my S - 150mph, mrs said on snooper was showing speed of 153mph,she then shouted at me and slowed down again.

indeed the older S's will

colink · Dec 6th, 2005, 09:52 PM

I've seen just under 150 on the clock of my S (GTT 220). Aint it wierd how you look at the big speedo rather than the digi one when you are flat out on an italian autostrada with a couple of Works ones trying to catch you

That was in 6th and just over 6K revs + slightly uphill so possibly had a bit more to go. Suppose that equates to about mid 140s for real, which sounds about right for 220 bhp S

Somebody mentioned to me recently that its actually faster in 5th? Is this true? If so, I might just have to go back to Italy

Anyway Rick, if you got yours past 150 your ears would probably explode

Profpatpending · Dec 6th, 2005, 10:51 PM

yes there is a speed limiter on the MINI it is programmed into the ECU and as far as I know the only way to remove it is with MTH.

RedUn · Dec 6th, 2005, 11:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by colink

I've seen just under 150 on the clock of my S (GTT 220). Aint it wierd how you look at the big speedo rather than the digi one when you are flat out on an italian autostrada with a couple of Works ones trying to catch you

That was in 6th and just over 6K revs + slightly uphill so possibly had a bit more to go. Suppose that equates to about mid 140s for real, which sounds about right for 220 bhp S

Somebody mentioned to me recently that its actually faster in 5th? Is this true? If so, I might just have to go back to Italy

Anyway Rick, if you got yours past 150 your ears would probably explode

you'll top 5th gear out mate

wouldn't explode, just bleed a bit

Dec 4th, 2005, 10:34 PM	#1
fastfritz no longer newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Dardanelle,AR Local Time: 09:27 PM Posts: 12 Offline	Removal of 135 mph cut off Has anyone figured out how to remove electronic speed cut off. Is it in the software or ingnition system. MCS's in Europe run to 163, what's their secret.

Dec 4th, 2005, 11:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
GBMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gloucester, MA, USA Local Time: 04:27 PM Posts: 7,601 Offline	I have repeatedly read that there is no actual cut out - it is just that the engine doesn't have the power to push the car any faster through the air! Ian C. Gloucester, MA, USA (UK expat) driving GPMINI and Convertible GBMINI#6

Dec 4th, 2005, 11:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Stevie B Speed Racer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: K-town, Germany Local Time: 11:27 PM Posts: 166 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GBMINI I have repeatedly read that there is no actual cut out - it is just that the engine doesn't have the power to push the car any faster through the air! I've had my MCS right at indicated 140 mph on a straight and level section of the Autobahn. It got there relatively quick, but it didn't seem as if it would do much more, as the motor was spinning near redline. That's when I found out my car had the dreaded wind noise leak in the windshield. Incredibly loud, starting at around 110. I've since had MINI reseal the shield, but haven't been out to test it now that my winter tires are mounted. 2005 MINI Cooper S2007 BMW 530i SMG on order1997 Ducati 748 (sold ) Scuderia Ferrari WILL be back in 2006!!!

Dec 5th, 2005, 11:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
Haggi forwards and downwards Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: my rack Local Time: 09:27 PM Posts: 1,790 Offline	lol the minis top speed (cooper s) is between 136 and 143 mph as engines do differ a small ammount and the 05 uk plate are 170 bhp as well but when the rev limiter is hit be it cooper, one or 'S' the engine will ease you off so you are not buring the linits of the gear box as it happens in all gears confusion, madness and disorder .............. my work here is done

Dec 5th, 2005, 03:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
Neil the Hat MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Coast Local Time: 10:27 PM Posts: 556 Offline	Apart from a rev limiter I have not heard or read anything about the Mini having a speed limiter. I recently hit 136mph (two up, full tank of fuel and weekend bags) in Germany too and at around 5k revs, I think it would have done over 140 had I not had to slow down for traffic. 163 seems a little optimistic - though maybe with half a tank, downhill and with only the driver - oh and a near gale up the chuff!! For MINIs on the South Coast it has to be the South Coast New MINI Club

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Dec 5th, 2005, 07:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
fraujmj Dazed &Confuzed Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Germany Local Time: 09:27 PM Posts: 44 Offline	Well, I was curious about this too . . . I could be wrong but my "education" has taught me that all American cars have a "governor" that will not allow you to drive over a certain speed. However, since I passed my break-in this week I did make a road trip and pushed it to 120 mph, and it didn't cut out, but I do agree - I was going uphill but was hitting over 5 - close to redline just not quite there yet and backed off. I was surprised that the car itself didn't limit my speed. Ahh . . . the joys of the German autobahn!!!! So I was wondering if the MINI actually does have a speed governor?!!

Dec 5th, 2005, 07:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
northandy AWOL My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2003 Local Time: 09:27 PM Posts: 14,328 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by fastfritz Has anyone figured out how to remove electronic speed cut off. Is it in the software or ingnition system. MCS's in Europe run to 163, what's their secret. its the law of physics... theres no limiter or cut off.... 163 mph in a mini ?... my last car (porsche boxster 3.2s) was only capable of 163 mph flat out, and that has 252 bhp and way better aerodynamics...

Dec 5th, 2005, 04:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mister Uranus is composed of gas My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ghettoville, CA Local Time: 01:27 PM Posts: 3,267 Offline	I've gotten my S to 130 at revs just under 5 with a full tank of gas traveling on a slight incline. It felt as if the car could do way more, but I got a little freaked out and backed off the accelerator. It was quite a thrill, but because I was on a toll road that runs parallel to bumper to bumper freeway traffic, I couldn't shake the thought of possibly having a blowout, which, at 130, would send my car hurtling into traffic possibly killing a bunch of people, myself included. When I had my Cooper, I topped out at 123 at 5 revs but only because I had the same feeling of doom. I'm sure it would have done much more. I'm a scaredy cat

Dec 5th, 2005, 04:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
Nick_MSM MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Sussex Local Time: 09:27 PM Posts: 121 Offline	I think he means the S is geared to top out at 163mph and not actually achieve that speed? Without one almighty long hill anyway and a tailwind!

Dec 5th, 2005, 07:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
:: Jon :: . My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 10:27 PM Posts: 14,900 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by fiesta dan ive gone off the clock in my S - 150mph, mrs said on snooper was showing speed of 153mph,she then shouted at me and slowed down again. what mods have you got? EMPTY SPACE NEEDS FILLING.... but it has to be something that wont get me banned

Dec 5th, 2005, 07:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
Fevs heading north !!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: on the move Local Time: 09:27 PM Posts: 8,946 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by johnmorgan1980 what mods have you got? jet pack Global motivator

Dec 5th, 2005, 07:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
:: Jon :: . My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 10:27 PM Posts: 14,900 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by fevs jet pack EMPTY SPACE NEEDS FILLING.... but it has to be something that wont get me banned

Dec 6th, 2005, 12:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
Shaun Mr Big Stuff Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Oldham Local Time: 09:27 PM Posts: 3,310 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by johnmorgan1980 what mods have you got? Gran Turismo http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaun-g/

Dec 6th, 2005, 08:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
widget MINI2 Landylover Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lambourn, Berks Local Time: 10:27 PM Posts: 24 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by fraujmj American cars have a "governor" that will not allow you to drive over a certain speed. Yep. They're sh t. JaBBa

Dec 6th, 2005, 09:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 10:27 PM Posts: 11,504 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by charlie croaker lol the minis top speed (cooper s) is between 136 and 143 mph as engines do differ a small ammount and the 05 uk plate are 170 bhp as well but when the rev limiter is hit be it cooper, one or 'S' the engine will ease you off so you are not buring the linits of the gear box as it happens in all gears your onto something there, the new cars are limited to 143mph......as far as I can tell (tested against and older car that will pull off the clock) remapping the ecu seems to get rid of this problem but the gearing on the new cars is gonna limit the top speed a lot, i've been quite close to the rev limiter in 6th gear a few times now

Dec 6th, 2005, 09:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 10:27 PM Posts: 11,504 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by northandy its the law of physics... theres no limiter or cut off.... 163 mph in a mini ?... my last car (porsche boxster 3.2s) was only capable of 163 mph flat out, and that has 252 bhp and way better aerodynamics... don't forget it depends on the power curve and gearing as well

Dec 6th, 2005, 09:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 10:27 PM Posts: 11,504 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by fiesta dan ive gone off the clock in my S - 150mph, mrs said on snooper was showing speed of 153mph,she then shouted at me and slowed down again. indeed the older S's will

Dec 6th, 2005, 09:52 PM	#18 (permalink)
colink Bugaboo Racer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Changin' Nappies Local Time: 10:27 PM Posts: 1,553 Offline	I've seen just under 150 on the clock of my S (GTT 220). Aint it wierd how you look at the big speedo rather than the digi one when you are flat out on an italian autostrada with a couple of Works ones trying to catch you That was in 6th and just over 6K revs + slightly uphill so possibly had a bit more to go. Suppose that equates to about mid 140s for real, which sounds about right for 220 bhp S Somebody mentioned to me recently that its actually faster in 5th? Is this true? If so, I might just have to go back to Italy Anyway Rick, if you got yours past 150 your ears would probably explode

Dec 6th, 2005, 10:51 PM	#19 (permalink)
Profpatpending Forum Hardened Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 09:27 PM Posts: 73 Offline	yes there is a speed limiter on the MINI it is programmed into the ECU and as far as I know the only way to remove it is with MTH.

Dec 6th, 2005, 11:00 PM	#20 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 10:27 PM Posts: 11,504 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by colink I've seen just under 150 on the clock of my S (GTT 220). Aint it wierd how you look at the big speedo rather than the digi one when you are flat out on an italian autostrada with a couple of Works ones trying to catch you That was in 6th and just over 6K revs + slightly uphill so possibly had a bit more to go. Suppose that equates to about mid 140s for real, which sounds about right for 220 bhp S Somebody mentioned to me recently that its actually faster in 5th? Is this true? If so, I might just have to go back to Italy Anyway Rick, if you got yours past 150 your ears would probably explode you'll top 5th gear out mate wouldn't explode, just bleed a bit

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