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Maaij · Dec 19th, 2005, 06:07 PM

Hi

I have a MINI Cooper with the JCW sound kit.
This include:
- JCW Air box
- JCW Exhaust
- JCW special engine management software

Now I want to replace the JCW Air filter for a K&N/Pipercross or other "open" Air filter.

My friend fitted one today and the sound is awsome

Much better sound compared to the JCW Air filter (closed air box). I think a open air filter makes a much better sound.

My question is:

Can I replace the JCW air filter without any problem? Is the JCW software optimized for working with the JCW air filter? Is it possible to replace the air filter without causing any problem? Will the JCW software works with the new ait filter?
Dont want to damage the car by using a different air filter

mooneymini · Dec 19th, 2005, 07:05 PM

changing air filters will cause no problems, and will sound a lot better. it is a shame that with the price of the jcw sound kit that they couldnt include the open air filter

Minty · Dec 19th, 2005, 07:07 PM

it is a shame, specially as on the S Works kit, its a cone filter in a box...

Olly. · Dec 19th, 2005, 07:10 PM

Must admit I prefer the sound of the JCW kit to an open cone induction kit.

I can't see any reason why an open cone kit wouldn't work.

Will you be removing the extra air induction bits that JCW added? Does that not mean you will have a hole in the back wall of your engine bay?

Minty · Dec 19th, 2005, 07:14 PM

you would need to remove the entire air box, and the 'sound pipe' that goes towards the bulk head.

ollymale, it doesn't actually touch the bulk head...it mearly points in that direction.

Maaij · Dec 19th, 2005, 07:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ollymale

Will you be removing the extra air induction bits that JCW added? Does that not mean you will have a hole in the back wall of your engine bay?

I dont know? Anyone know it?

[edit] Thanx Minty for the info

Maaij · Dec 19th, 2005, 07:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Minty

it is a shame, specially as on the S Works kit, its a cone filter in a box...

Does the JCW soundkit has a cone air filter or panel filter? Is it worth te replace it with e.g a K&N?

Minty · Dec 19th, 2005, 09:39 PM

the sound kit has a 'free' flowing panel filter.

to get any more benefit you would need a cone filter instead.

grand_cru · Dec 19th, 2005, 10:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mooneymini

changing air filters will cause no problems, and will sound a lot better. it is a shame that with the price of the jcw sound kit that they couldnt include the open air filter

Would be tricky cause the use of "open" cone air filters is strictly forbidden in Belgium, except for racing purposes, and I think in the Netherlands as well. You'll never pass the technical car inspection with K&N or other brand under your bonnet.
Also mind resposability in case of an accident: car needs to have conformity certificate. So modified could mean no insurance

Greetz,

Jan

Minty · Dec 20th, 2005, 07:26 PM

or just change it back before the inspection....

Morty · Dec 20th, 2005, 07:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Minty

or just change it back before the inspection....

As most of us do

LOL

That reminds me .. I'll have to do that shortly

But back to topic ...
I can't understand your decission Maaij.
At first you took the Works Soundkit, that ain't cheap, and now you're thinking of changing? So I guess you're not that satisfied of it?

@ Minty
Would a filter change really benifit the JCW install?

grand_cru · Dec 20th, 2005, 09:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Morty

I can't understand your decission Maaij.
At first you took the Works Soundkit, that ain't cheap, and now you're thinking of changing? So I guess you're not that satisfied of it?

@ Minty
Would a filter change really benifit the JCW install?

I do agree Morty,

Would next step be installation of a Milltek or Remus exhaust and a MTH tuner file?
Think that once you choose a "way of tuning", you better stick to it. Except when one is looking for the maximum power and torque. Then you 're done with +/- € 300 at the local tuning shop ...

Wouldn't understand why choosing for yellow walls with a green carpet and a blue sofa to refurbish your house. Does it need to match?

Yours truly,

Jan

Maaij · Dec 20th, 2005, 10:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Morty

As most of us do

LOL

That reminds me .. I'll have to do that shortly

But back to topic ...
I can't understand your decission Maaij.
At first you took the Works Soundkit, that ain't cheap, and now you're thinking of changing? So I guess you're not that satisfied of it?

@ Minty
Would a filter change really benifit the JCW install?

I was happy with the soundkit till my friend fitted a Green open filter. The sound was awesome

Very cool sound compared to the soundkit. I cant really hear the sound of the JCW filter

Maaij · Dec 20th, 2005, 11:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by grand_cru

I do agree Morty,

Would next step be installation of a Milltek or Remus exhaust and a MTH tuner file?
Think that once you choose a "way of tuning", you better stick to it. Except when one is looking for the maximum power and torque. Then you 're done with +/- € 300 at the local tuning shop ...

I like the JCW exhaust so dont need to replace it and already have a special tuner file with the MTH manifold fitted on my Cooper

Dont think there will be any problem to replace the JCW filter to another one. The filter will work well with the exhaust.

Olly. · Dec 20th, 2005, 11:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Maaij

I cant really hear the sound of the JCW filter

Really? Thats interesting I can't hear the exhaust over the air filter at high revs

It makes a really loud screaming noise at high revs

Maaij · Dec 20th, 2005, 11:46 PM

I really cant hear it. Maby I am deaf?

The exhaust has a nice deep sound

Dec 19th, 2005, 06:07 PM	#1
Maaij MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Local Time: 10:20 PM Posts: 301 Offline	[MINI Cooper JCW soundkit] Replace JCW Air Box for K&N open Air Box Hi I have a MINI Cooper with the JCW sound kit. This include: - JCW Air box - JCW Exhaust - JCW special engine management software Now I want to replace the JCW Air filter for a K&N/Pipercross or other "open" Air filter. My friend fitted one today and the sound is awsome Much better sound compared to the JCW Air filter (closed air box). I think a open air filter makes a much better sound. My question is: Can I replace the JCW air filter without any problem? Is the JCW software optimized for working with the JCW air filter? Is it possible to replace the air filter without causing any problem? Will the JCW software works with the new ait filter? Dont want to damage the car by using a different air filter

Dec 19th, 2005, 07:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
Minty Man in the know! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Rugby Local Time: 09:20 PM Posts: 3,967 Offline	it is a shame, specially as on the S Works kit, its a cone filter in a box... MINI-3 @ Cotswold MINI \| BMW-four @ Cotswold BMW \| E-Mail Me \| Minty - Part of the IT Crowd!

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Minty Man in the know! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Rugby Local Time: 09:20 PM Posts: 3,967 Offline	you would need to remove the entire air box, and the 'sound pipe' that goes towards the bulk head. ollymale, it doesn't actually touch the bulk head...it mearly points in that direction. MINI-3 @ Cotswold MINI \| BMW-four @ Cotswold BMW \| E-Mail Me \| Minty - Part of the IT Crowd!

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Maaij MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Local Time: 10:20 PM Posts: 301 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Minty it is a shame, specially as on the S Works kit, its a cone filter in a box... Does the JCW soundkit has a cone air filter or panel filter? Is it worth te replace it with e.g a K&N? Last edited by Maaij : Dec 19th, 2005 at 08:12 PM.

Dec 19th, 2005, 09:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
Minty Man in the know! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Rugby Local Time: 09:20 PM Posts: 3,967 Offline	the sound kit has a 'free' flowing panel filter. to get any more benefit you would need a cone filter instead. MINI-3 @ Cotswold MINI \| BMW-four @ Cotswold BMW \| E-Mail Me \| Minty - Part of the IT Crowd!

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Dec 19th, 2005, 07:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
mooneymini 01 My Classifieds Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 09:20 PM Posts: 865 Offline	changing air filters will cause no problems, and will sound a lot better. it is a shame that with the price of the jcw sound kit that they couldnt include the open air filter

Dec 19th, 2005, 07:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 10:20 PM Posts: 3,458 Offline	Must admit I prefer the sound of the JCW kit to an open cone induction kit. I can't see any reason why an open cone kit wouldn't work. Will you be removing the extra air induction bits that JCW added? Does that not mean you will have a hole in the back wall of your engine bay?

Dec 19th, 2005, 07:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Maaij MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Local Time: 10:20 PM Posts: 301 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ollymale Will you be removing the extra air induction bits that JCW added? Does that not mean you will have a hole in the back wall of your engine bay? I dont know? Anyone know it? [edit] Thanx Minty for the info

Dec 19th, 2005, 10:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
grand_cru In Flanders fields ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Roeselare - Belgium Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 300 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mooneymini changing air filters will cause no problems, and will sound a lot better. it is a shame that with the price of the jcw sound kit that they couldnt include the open air filter Would be tricky cause the use of "open" cone air filters is strictly forbidden in Belgium, except for racing purposes, and I think in the Netherlands as well. You'll never pass the technical car inspection with K&N or other brand under your bonnet. Also mind resposability in case of an accident: car needs to have conformity certificate. So modified could mean no insurance Greetz, Jan

Dec 20th, 2005, 07:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
Minty Man in the know! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Rugby Local Time: 09:20 PM Posts: 3,967 Offline	or just change it back before the inspection.... MINI-3 @ Cotswold MINI \| BMW-four @ Cotswold BMW \| E-Mail Me \| Minty - Part of the IT Crowd!

Dec 20th, 2005, 07:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
Morty * shooting pictures * Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Near Antwerp Local Time: 10:20 PM Posts: 3,016 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Minty or just change it back before the inspection.... As most of us do LOL That reminds me .. I'll have to do that shortly But back to topic ... I can't understand your decission Maaij. At first you took the Works Soundkit, that ain't cheap, and now you're thinking of changing? So I guess you're not that satisfied of it? @ Minty Would a filter change really benifit the JCW install?

Dec 20th, 2005, 09:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
grand_cru In Flanders fields ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Roeselare - Belgium Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 300 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Morty I can't understand your decission Maaij. At first you took the Works Soundkit, that ain't cheap, and now you're thinking of changing? So I guess you're not that satisfied of it? @ Minty Would a filter change really benifit the JCW install? I do agree Morty, Would next step be installation of a Milltek or Remus exhaust and a MTH tuner file? Think that once you choose a "way of tuning", you better stick to it. Except when one is looking for the maximum power and torque. Then you 're done with +/- € 300 at the local tuning shop ... Wouldn't understand why choosing for yellow walls with a green carpet and a blue sofa to refurbish your house. Does it need to match? Yours truly, Jan

Dec 20th, 2005, 10:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
Maaij MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Local Time: 10:20 PM Posts: 301 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Morty As most of us do LOL That reminds me .. I'll have to do that shortly But back to topic ... I can't understand your decission Maaij. At first you took the Works Soundkit, that ain't cheap, and now you're thinking of changing? So I guess you're not that satisfied of it? @ Minty Would a filter change really benifit the JCW install? I was happy with the soundkit till my friend fitted a Green open filter. The sound was awesome Very cool sound compared to the soundkit. I cant really hear the sound of the JCW filter

Dec 20th, 2005, 11:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
Maaij MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Local Time: 10:20 PM Posts: 301 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by grand_cru I do agree Morty, Would next step be installation of a Milltek or Remus exhaust and a MTH tuner file? Think that once you choose a "way of tuning", you better stick to it. Except when one is looking for the maximum power and torque. Then you 're done with +/- € 300 at the local tuning shop ... I like the JCW exhaust so dont need to replace it and already have a special tuner file with the MTH manifold fitted on my Cooper Dont think there will be any problem to replace the JCW filter to another one. The filter will work well with the exhaust.

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Dec 20th, 2005, 11:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 10:20 PM Posts: 3,458 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Maaij I cant really hear the sound of the JCW filter Really? Thats interesting I can't hear the exhaust over the air filter at high revs It makes a really loud screaming noise at high revs

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Maaij MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Local Time: 10:20 PM Posts: 301 Offline	I really cant hear it. Maby I am deaf? The exhaust has a nice deep sound

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