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ScottishcooperS · Dec 20th, 2005, 10:50 AM

Hey all

Iv been offered a set of JCW spark plugs and injectors is it worth getting them and fitting the to my cooper s?

Iv got an Alta 15% reduction pulley, Alta CAI, just away to put on a JCW exhaust so is it worth putting them on?

ill be getting a remap soon aswell!

All advice welcome

Willie

MartinSullivan · Dec 20th, 2005, 12:02 PM

Depends how much they are going to cost you - i have a set of colder iridium plugs and a set of 400 cc injectors on my S, but I have a lot more mods than you. The colder plugs are a good idea with the pulley mod (although I wouldnt necessarily buy JCW ones unless they were being offered cheap). You can buy iridium plugs from www.sparkplugs.co.uk.

The injectors are worth it if you plan to do more on your car over time.

Give me a shout sometime if you want to see the car and discuss mods

St00ge · Dec 20th, 2005, 02:21 PM

I'd definately put the JCW colder sparks with a reduced pulley, and 380cc JCW injectors will do it good, as the injectors can manage the extra fuel to match the increased air charge.

I have the JCW sparks, off ebay, cos they were bloody cheap. Where did you get the injectors from?

ScottishcooperS · Dec 20th, 2005, 03:13 PM

im getting the spark plugs and injectors for 50 pounds so
i think thats pretty good! and i do plan to do more to my car
performance wise.

Okay ill give you a shout after xmas sometime

Willie

St00ge · Dec 20th, 2005, 11:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS

im getting the spark plugs and injectors for 50 pounds so
i think thats pretty good! and i do plan to do more to my car
performance wise.

Okay ill give you a shout after xmas sometime

Willie

any chance you could tell me where you got the injectors, I would absolutely kill to by a set. And for less than 50 pounds! Your killing me

PM me if you'd prefer

hyprblu · Dec 21st, 2005, 01:04 AM

Hey Elie.....looking at getting the JCW air intake which comes with the injectors.....and hopefully some software......

St00ge · Dec 21st, 2005, 01:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by hyprblu

Hey Elie.....looking at getting the JCW air intake which comes with the injectors.....and hopefully some software......

u getting the JCW software now? No way ur getting the injectors for free though

, they must be charging you a hell of a lot for them

hyprblu · Dec 21st, 2005, 05:20 AM

Basically the injectors come as part of a package with the air intake and software.....I am told $1198 fitted.......also going to get a GRS intercooler early in 2006.

St00ge · Dec 21st, 2005, 06:10 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by hyprblu

Basically the injectors come as part of a package with the air intake and software.....I am told $1198 fitted.......also going to get a GRS intercooler early in 2006.

that's not bad at all. I'm gonna ring them up and ask how much it'll cost for just the injectors, as i have the JCW sparks, Alta CAI and MTH software already.

Elie

ScottishcooperS · Dec 21st, 2005, 07:22 AM

The reason i am getting them so cheap Elie is
because a boy i know bought the 200BHP works
kit then before he had even put the kit on decided
to upgrade to the 210BHP which includes new
injectors and spark plugs so he is selling me the
200BHP ones for 50 pounds!

Willie

ScottishcooperS · Dec 21st, 2005, 07:22 AM

i got told the injectors were over 200 pounds by themselves!

MartinSullivan · Dec 21st, 2005, 09:41 AM

As far as I can remember the 200 bhp works kit didnt come with modified injectors - so he wont have injectors to sell you (except the standard ones he takes out of his car to fit the 210bhp ones).

St00ge · Dec 21st, 2005, 09:56 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS

The reason i am getting them so cheap Elie is
because a boy i know bought the 200BHP works
kit then before he had even put the kit on decided
to upgrade to the 210BHP which includes new
injectors and spark plugs so he is selling me the
200BHP ones for 50 pounds!

Willie

umm willie, the works 200bhp kit didn't come with special injectors, they were standard ones.

ScottishcooperS · Dec 21st, 2005, 12:26 PM

Will go and check with him, he is either selling me injectors i have or he has
two sets of 210 ones

Willie

St00ge · Dec 21st, 2005, 12:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS

Will go and check with him, he is either selling me injectors i have or he has
two sets of 210 ones

Willie

good idea

Wish i could get some cheap injectors. Bloody doncaster mini parts/service are a bunch of tight arses. So rude on the phone. He said "price isn't listed" Then i said "umm..." then he cut me off, before i'd finished the sentence, and said "Nah BMW Australia are closed now. I didn't even mention them, all i said was umm. What a ******** . Rang up Melbourne BMW, very nice person, took my details, and said he'd get back to me. And this wasn't the first time.

So yeh anyway, waiting for a quote on the JCW injectors. Will let you know how much BMW charge.

Elie

ScottishcooperS · Dec 21st, 2005, 01:09 PM

okay cheers, im pretty sure some1 on here said he payed 220 pounds for a set from BMW, but you might be cheaper well hopefully!

Willie

St00ge · Dec 21st, 2005, 01:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS

okay cheers, im pretty sure some1 on here said he payed 220 pounds for a set from BMW, but you might be cheaper well hopefully!

Willie

that is sooo expensive.

i hope they're cheaper too, but i doubt it.

Thanks anyways,
Elie

MINIAC · Dec 21st, 2005, 04:16 PM

Anyone adding larger injectors should have an ECU remap specifically designed for the injectors.

roland2003 · Dec 21st, 2005, 04:31 PM

Miniac is right,yet when we run a stock injector map with the JCW injectors, the fuelling stays identical under open or closed loop up to around 6000rpm.
Above 6000rpm, whereas before it was just leaning a touch, with the 380cc injectors its perfect. BTW this is our 273bhp car

That ecu is quite clever with the fuelling, pity its ignition retard systems aren't so effective.
Best regards Roland

ScottishcooperS · Dec 21st, 2005, 04:34 PM

So what do you recomend Roland? My spec is up top of the
thread mate.

Willie

Dec 20th, 2005, 10:50 AM	#1
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 09:22 PM Posts: 326 Offline	JCW spark plugs and injectors Hey all Iv been offered a set of JCW spark plugs and injectors is it worth getting them and fitting the to my cooper s? Iv got an Alta 15% reduction pulley, Alta CAI, just away to put on a JCW exhaust so is it worth putting them on? ill be getting a remap soon aswell! All advice welcome Willie a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

Dec 20th, 2005, 03:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 09:22 PM Posts: 326 Offline	im getting the spark plugs and injectors for 50 pounds so i think thats pretty good! and i do plan to do more to my car performance wise. Okay ill give you a shout after xmas sometime Willie a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

Dec 21st, 2005, 07:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 09:22 PM Posts: 326 Offline	The reason i am getting them so cheap Elie is because a boy i know bought the 200BHP works kit then before he had even put the kit on decided to upgrade to the 210BHP which includes new injectors and spark plugs so he is selling me the 200BHP ones for 50 pounds! Willie a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

Dec 21st, 2005, 07:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 09:22 PM Posts: 326 Offline	i got told the injectors were over 200 pounds by themselves! a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

Dec 21st, 2005, 12:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 09:22 PM Posts: 326 Offline	Will go and check with him, he is either selling me injectors i have or he has two sets of 210 ones Willie a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

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Dec 20th, 2005, 12:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
MartinSullivan MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Local Time: 09:22 PM Posts: 251 Offline	Depends how much they are going to cost you - i have a set of colder iridium plugs and a set of 400 cc injectors on my S, but I have a lot more mods than you. The colder plugs are a good idea with the pulley mod (although I wouldnt necessarily buy JCW ones unless they were being offered cheap). You can buy iridium plugs from www.sparkplugs.co.uk. The injectors are worth it if you plan to do more on your car over time. Give me a shout sometime if you want to see the car and discuss mods

Dec 20th, 2005, 02:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:22 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	I'd definately put the JCW colder sparks with a reduced pulley, and 380cc JCW injectors will do it good, as the injectors can manage the extra fuel to match the increased air charge. I have the JCW sparks, off ebay, cos they were bloody cheap. Where did you get the injectors from?

Dec 20th, 2005, 11:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:22 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS im getting the spark plugs and injectors for 50 pounds so i think thats pretty good! and i do plan to do more to my car performance wise. Okay ill give you a shout after xmas sometime Willie any chance you could tell me where you got the injectors, I would absolutely kill to by a set. And for less than 50 pounds! Your killing me PM me if you'd prefer

Dec 21st, 2005, 01:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
hyprblu MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 08:22 AM Posts: 324 Offline	Hey Elie.....looking at getting the JCW air intake which comes with the injectors.....and hopefully some software......

Dec 21st, 2005, 01:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:22 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by hyprblu Hey Elie.....looking at getting the JCW air intake which comes with the injectors.....and hopefully some software...... u getting the JCW software now? No way ur getting the injectors for free though , they must be charging you a hell of a lot for them

Dec 21st, 2005, 05:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
hyprblu MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 08:22 AM Posts: 324 Offline	Basically the injectors come as part of a package with the air intake and software.....I am told $1198 fitted.......also going to get a GRS intercooler early in 2006.

Dec 21st, 2005, 06:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:22 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by hyprblu Basically the injectors come as part of a package with the air intake and software.....I am told $1198 fitted.......also going to get a GRS intercooler early in 2006. that's not bad at all. I'm gonna ring them up and ask how much it'll cost for just the injectors, as i have the JCW sparks, Alta CAI and MTH software already. Elie

Dec 21st, 2005, 09:41 AM	#12 (permalink)
MartinSullivan MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Local Time: 09:22 PM Posts: 251 Offline	As far as I can remember the 200 bhp works kit didnt come with modified injectors - so he wont have injectors to sell you (except the standard ones he takes out of his car to fit the 210bhp ones).

Dec 21st, 2005, 09:56 AM	#13 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:22 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS The reason i am getting them so cheap Elie is because a boy i know bought the 200BHP works kit then before he had even put the kit on decided to upgrade to the 210BHP which includes new injectors and spark plugs so he is selling me the 200BHP ones for 50 pounds! Willie umm willie, the works 200bhp kit didn't come with special injectors, they were standard ones.

Dec 21st, 2005, 12:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:22 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS Will go and check with him, he is either selling me injectors i have or he has two sets of 210 ones Willie good idea Wish i could get some cheap injectors. Bloody doncaster mini parts/service are a bunch of tight arses. So rude on the phone. He said "price isn't listed" Then i said "umm..." then he cut me off, before i'd finished the sentence, and said "Nah BMW Australia are closed now. I didn't even mention them, all i said was umm. What a ******** . Rang up Melbourne BMW, very nice person, took my details, and said he'd get back to me. And this wasn't the first time. So yeh anyway, waiting for a quote on the JCW injectors. Will let you know how much BMW charge. Elie

Dec 21st, 2005, 01:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 09:22 PM Posts: 326 Offline	okay cheers, im pretty sure some1 on here said he payed 220 pounds for a set from BMW, but you might be cheaper well hopefully! Willie a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

Dec 21st, 2005, 01:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:22 AM Posts: 2,835 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS okay cheers, im pretty sure some1 on here said he payed 220 pounds for a set from BMW, but you might be cheaper well hopefully! Willie that is sooo expensive. i hope they're cheaper too, but i doubt it. Thanks anyways, Elie

Dec 21st, 2005, 04:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 01:22 PM Posts: 8,618 Online	Anyone adding larger injectors should have an ECU remap specifically designed for the injectors.

Dec 21st, 2005, 04:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 09:22 PM Posts: 2,731 Offline	Miniac is right,yet when we run a stock injector map with the JCW injectors, the fuelling stays identical under open or closed loop up to around 6000rpm. Above 6000rpm, whereas before it was just leaning a touch, with the 380cc injectors its perfect. BTW this is our 273bhp car That ecu is quite clever with the fuelling, pity its ignition retard systems aren't so effective. Best regards Roland www.gttuning.com

Dec 21st, 2005, 04:34 PM	#20 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 09:22 PM Posts: 326 Offline	So what do you recomend Roland? My spec is up top of the thread mate. Willie a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

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