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carter · Dec 21st, 2005, 06:35 AM

Hi

Anybody knows what are the differences in the stock exhaust between pre-05 and 05 model MCS? I know that the hangers are different, but anything else?

Is the difference contributing to the additional 7bhp?

ScottishcooperS · Dec 21st, 2005, 06:45 AM

i believe the extra 7bhp comes from the ecu.

CoryB · Dec 21st, 2005, 06:56 PM

I don't know the differences, but my wifes 05 MCS has a deeper and louder exhaust note than my 04 MCS.

And I'm extremely jealous of that!

Fisher · Dec 21st, 2005, 07:01 PM

I think there is no difference.

I have a 02 and 05 exsauts. 02 on the car and it's see the same like 05.

bye

Cooper54 · Dec 21st, 2005, 07:10 PM

No difference at all, the 7bhp is from the ecu update which can be purchased for £300-£350 from BMW.

Fisher · Dec 21st, 2005, 07:27 PM

Really? That about the service and ecu update.

I will ask , but here in our country...........

carter · Dec 23rd, 2005, 07:15 AM

Understand that there are more 'poping' or 'burbling' sounds in the 05 model.

Fisher, are the external of the pre-05 and 05 exhaust entirely the same?

Wondering whether is there any changes in the internals?

CoryB · Dec 24th, 2005, 01:50 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by carter

Understand that there are more 'poping' or 'burbling' sounds in the 05 model.

Fisher, are the external of the pre-05 and 05 exhaust entirely the same?

Wondering whether is there any changes in the internals?

The exhaust hangers were changed late in 2004.

The popping/burbling is due to ECU and timing changes.

And side-by-side in our driveway, the 2005 has a deeper tone. I don't know why, but my wifes 05 has a different, deeper tone than my 04.

GMINI · Dec 24th, 2005, 03:51 AM

less batting in the 05 mufflers. throatier and louder.

Hartge · Dec 26th, 2005, 02:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Cooper54

No difference at all, the 7bhp is from the ecu update which can be purchased for £300-£350 from BMW.

Are you serious? But why the dealers don't tell us about this, Im sure they want to make some $$ out of it.

stealth haggis · Dec 27th, 2005, 02:00 AM

i though sofware updates are given to the car as part of its serive pack when ever its in

GMINI · Dec 27th, 2005, 02:19 AM

Please let me clarify. Sure the software increases the number of times the exhaust gurgles on the let-go of the throttle, but nothing short of a relative strip-down of the muffler will make such a discernable volume difference. Software vs. hardware.

FTR: I've had my MINIs in for service umpteen bijillion times and never has a technician made an unwarranted upgrade.

Dec 21st, 2005, 06:35 AM	#1
carter MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 12:41 AM Posts: 18 Offline	Exhuast Difference Hi Anybody knows what are the differences in the stock exhaust between pre-05 and 05 model MCS? I know that the hangers are different, but anything else? Is the difference contributing to the additional 7bhp?

Dec 21st, 2005, 06:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 04:41 PM Posts: 388 Offline	i believe the extra 7bhp comes from the ecu. a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

Dec 21st, 2005, 06:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
CoryB MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chester VA USA Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 263 Offline	I don't know the differences, but my wifes 05 MCS has a deeper and louder exhaust note than my 04 MCS. And I'm extremely jealous of that! His - 04 CR/W MCS Hers - 05 BEP/W MCS

Dec 24th, 2005, 01:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
CoryB MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chester VA USA Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 263 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by carter Understand that there are more 'poping' or 'burbling' sounds in the 05 model. Fisher, are the external of the pre-05 and 05 exhaust entirely the same? Wondering whether is there any changes in the internals? The exhaust hangers were changed late in 2004. The popping/burbling is due to ECU and timing changes. And side-by-side in our driveway, the 2005 has a deeper tone. I don't know why, but my wifes 05 has a different, deeper tone than my 04. His - 04 CR/W MCS Hers - 05 BEP/W MCS

Dec 24th, 2005, 03:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
GMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Connecticut Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 7,178 Offline	less batting in the 05 mufflers. throatier and louder. NY/NE Mod

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Dec 21st, 2005, 07:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
Fisher MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Local Time: 06:41 PM Posts: 234 Offline	I think there is no difference. I have a 02 and 05 exsauts. 02 on the car and it's see the same like 05. bye

Dec 21st, 2005, 07:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cooper54 Lightweight Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Essex Local Time: 05:41 PM Posts: 420 Offline	No difference at all, the 7bhp is from the ecu update which can be purchased for £300-£350 from BMW.

Dec 21st, 2005, 07:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Fisher MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Local Time: 06:41 PM Posts: 234 Offline	Really? That about the service and ecu update. I will ask , but here in our country...........

Dec 23rd, 2005, 07:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
carter MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 12:41 AM Posts: 18 Offline	Understand that there are more 'poping' or 'burbling' sounds in the 05 model. Fisher, are the external of the pre-05 and 05 exhaust entirely the same? Wondering whether is there any changes in the internals?

Dec 26th, 2005, 02:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
Hartge SuperSoniC Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Malaysia Local Time: 12:41 AM Posts: 282 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Cooper54 No difference at all, the 7bhp is from the ecu update which can be purchased for £300-£350 from BMW. Are you serious? But why the dealers don't tell us about this, Im sure they want to make some $$ out of it.

Dec 27th, 2005, 02:00 AM	#11 (permalink)
stealth haggis MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2004 Local Time: 05:41 PM Posts: 1,773 Offline	i though sofware updates are given to the car as part of its serive pack when ever its in

Dec 27th, 2005, 02:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
GMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Connecticut Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 7,178 Offline	Please let me clarify. Sure the software increases the number of times the exhaust gurgles on the let-go of the throttle, but nothing short of a relative strip-down of the muffler will make such a discernable volume difference. Software vs. hardware. FTR: I've had my MINIs in for service umpteen bijillion times and never has a technician made an unwarranted upgrade. NY/NE Mod

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