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Perm · Jan 10th, 2006, 11:28 AM

Hi,

Am I correct in thinking that the 05 MCS exhaust "burbles" more than the 04 cars ?

Reading on NAM that the reason for this is
"The '05 burble is caused by the ECU pulling ignition timing to ~-30deg. on sharp off throttle movement."

Does this sound correct ? Anyone know if you can make the 53 plate car burble more ?

I have a Milltek cat back installed and you can hear burble sometimes.

Cheers

Perm

Maaij · Jan 10th, 2006, 11:46 AM

Is it possible to mod the ECU of a Cooper to get the popping soung of a Cooper S?

Spotty Dog · Jan 10th, 2006, 11:50 AM

The 05 MCs was made to burble and pop more than the previous model, but I'm not certain how you can chip your car to do that. By the way, it sounds great!

cristo · Jan 10th, 2006, 11:56 AM

I thought it burbled more because of an internal redesign of the muffler.

Spotty Dog · Jan 10th, 2006, 12:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by cristo

I thought it burbled more because of an internal redesign of the muffler.

It's bit of both chipping & modification.

http://motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/

Perm · Jan 10th, 2006, 01:29 PM

Spotty Dog,
Thanks for the link.....

I am still puzzled why this can not not be retrofitted...... could not a company like MTH add the "popping" effect to the ECU ?

Thanks

Perm

roland2003 · Jan 10th, 2006, 01:48 PM

...... or take it away completly? IMHO much better .
Regards Roland Gt Tuning

Spotty Dog · Jan 10th, 2006, 01:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Perm

Spotty Dog,
Thanks for the link.....

I am still puzzled why this can not not be retrofitted...... could not a company like MTH add the "popping" effect to the ECU ?

Thanks

Perm

Have a look at our sponsors, they may be able to help, especially with a new exhaust system. The pre 05 did do, but it wasn't as prevelant. A different exhaust may amplify the sound. (Sponsors directory in the red bar up the top.) The retro fit was ruled out by BMW/Mini, but gave no reason.

Paul · Jan 10th, 2006, 01:56 PM

A different exhaust on the earlier cars (for example I had a PlayMINI for a while) amplifies the pop/gurgle significantly.

Berthil · Jan 10th, 2006, 02:12 PM

I have 2003 MCS and MTH software. It burbeld with my Milltek, now it Burbles heavily with MTH Header and Milltek.

I have heard you get the face lift (2005) software if you order MTH, this comes with the burbles. Maybe someone can confirm.

Gr1zzLy · Jan 13th, 2006, 12:18 AM

Mine's a stock '05 MCS engine & exhaust, and burbles like crazy... How much louder does it get with another exhaust? I'm going for the JCW exhaust, but from what I heard, it's not that much louder, but I've only heard them from pre '05 models.

minigolf · Jan 13th, 2006, 11:21 AM

My car is an April 04 MCS, here's some before and after (Milltek cat-back) exhaust clips…

BEFORE (stock exhaust)

AFTER (Milltek cat-back)

Both clips are under 4mb.

Jan 10th, 2006, 11:28 AM	#1
Perm MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nottinghamshire Local Time: 10:04 AM Posts: 504 Offline	Exhaust Burble ? How ? Hi, Am I correct in thinking that the 05 MCS exhaust "burbles" more than the 04 cars ? Reading on NAM that the reason for this is "The '05 burble is caused by the ECU pulling ignition timing to ~-30deg. on sharp off throttle movement." Does this sound correct ? Anyone know if you can make the 53 plate car burble more ? I have a Milltek cat back installed and you can hear burble sometimes. Cheers Perm

Jan 10th, 2006, 01:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 10:04 AM Posts: 2,740 Offline	...... or take it away completly? IMHO much better . Regards Roland Gt Tuning www.gttuning.com

Jan 10th, 2006, 02:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
Berthil MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sittard (NL) Local Time: 11:04 AM Posts: 745 Offline	I have 2003 MCS and MTH software. It burbeld with my Milltek, now it Burbles heavily with MTH Header and Milltek. I have heard you get the face lift (2005) software if you order MTH, this comes with the burbles. Maybe someone can confirm. EB/W R53 MCS Highly Modified

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minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 08:04 PM Posts: 14,097 Offline	My car is an April 04 MCS, here's some before and after (Milltek cat-back) exhaust clips… BEFORE (stock exhaust) AFTER (Milltek cat-back) Both clips are under 4mb. Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

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Jan 10th, 2006, 11:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
Maaij MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Local Time: 09:04 AM Posts: 302 Offline	Is it possible to mod the ECU of a Cooper to get the popping soung of a Cooper S?

Jan 10th, 2006, 11:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
Spotty Dog MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Worthing, Sussex. Local Time: 09:04 AM Posts: 1,461 Offline	The 05 MCs was made to burble and pop more than the previous model, but I'm not certain how you can chip your car to do that. By the way, it sounds great!

Jan 10th, 2006, 11:56 AM	#4 (permalink)
cristo BLIKSEM (my brg/brg mc) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: york, pennsylvania Local Time: 05:04 AM Posts: 2,210 Offline	I thought it burbled more because of an internal redesign of the muffler.

Jan 10th, 2006, 12:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
Spotty Dog MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Worthing, Sussex. Local Time: 09:04 AM Posts: 1,461 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by cristo I thought it burbled more because of an internal redesign of the muffler. It's bit of both chipping & modification. http://motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/

Jan 10th, 2006, 01:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Perm MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nottinghamshire Local Time: 10:04 AM Posts: 504 Offline	Spotty Dog, Thanks for the link..... I am still puzzled why this can not not be retrofitted...... could not a company like MTH add the "popping" effect to the ECU ? Thanks Perm

Jan 10th, 2006, 01:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
Spotty Dog MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Worthing, Sussex. Local Time: 09:04 AM Posts: 1,461 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Perm Spotty Dog, Thanks for the link..... I am still puzzled why this can not not be retrofitted...... could not a company like MTH add the "popping" effect to the ECU ? Thanks Perm Have a look at our sponsors, they may be able to help, especially with a new exhaust system. The pre 05 did do, but it wasn't as prevelant. A different exhaust may amplify the sound. (Sponsors directory in the red bar up the top.) The retro fit was ruled out by BMW/Mini, but gave no reason.

Jan 10th, 2006, 01:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 10:04 AM Posts: 41,276 Online	A different exhaust on the earlier cars (for example I had a PlayMINI for a while) amplifies the pop/gurgle significantly.

Jan 13th, 2006, 12:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
Gr1zzLy Crapping in the woods... Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:04 PM Posts: 1,757 Offline	Mine's a stock '05 MCS engine & exhaust, and burbles like crazy... How much louder does it get with another exhaust? I'm going for the JCW exhaust, but from what I heard, it's not that much louder, but I've only heard them from pre '05 models.

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