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M444SSY · Jan 10th, 2006, 09:12 PM

i knows theres been loads of threads been reading through a few. just wondered if this would be the best manifold to get and remap as my next mod. at the min the mods i have are
alta cai
grs intercooler
forge 15 percent pulley
superchips remap
magnaflow cat back

any help or experiences would be good cheers want the most out of my car also would doin a m7 bigger throttle body be of any help at all cheers

Berthil · Jan 10th, 2006, 09:23 PM

I have the MTH Manifold and the tuner file that goes with it.

I made the following steps:

To Digi-Tec tuning (15 pulley): Huge improvement
MTH tuner file: More power al lower revs, somewhat more at higher revs, not shocking
Milltek catback: No noticable power gain, much better sound
MTH Manifold and tuner file: BIG torque gain at lower revs, more power at higher revs. The sound together with the Milltek catback is awesome but loud.

The torque gain because of the manifold is amazing. I can pull away smoothley from roundabouts at 1200 revs with three people in the car in 3rd gear.

M444SSY · Jan 10th, 2006, 09:26 PM

would you say its 1 of the better manifolds onthe market then theres so much choice with veiws for and against all products its just so confusing lol

M444SSY · Jan 11th, 2006, 12:28 PM

any 1 any help

MarkW19 · Jan 27th, 2006, 09:24 PM

Berthill: is it the Manifold or the Catback that makes the big noise increase?

supercharged99 · Jan 28th, 2006, 08:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19

Berthill: is it the Manifold or the Catback that makes the big noise increase?

the manifold makes the car loud ...

MarkW19 · Jan 28th, 2006, 08:25 PM

lol ok I won't be getting a replacement manifold then

Berthil · Jan 28th, 2006, 09:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19

Berthill: is it the Manifold or the Catback that makes the big noise increase?

The Milltek without Manifold wasn't loud, with MTH Manifold it's loud. It's the combination that makes it loud. A MTH Manifold with stock or JCW exhaust is ok.

Revolution Mini Works · Jan 29th, 2006, 02:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Berthil

I have the MTH Manifold and the tuner file that goes with it.

I made the following steps:

To Digi-Tec tuning (15 pulley): Huge improvement
MTH tuner file: More power al lower revs, somewhat more at higher revs, not shocking
Milltek catback: No noticable power gain, much better sound
MTH Manifold and tuner file: BIG torque gain at lower revs, more power at higher revs. The sound together with the Milltek catback is awesome but loud.

The torque gain because of the manifold is amazing. I can pull away smoothley from roundabouts at 1200 revs with three people in the car in 3rd gear.

can you show a dyno sheet for us to see the gains of before and after?

thanks

Berthil · Jan 29th, 2006, 04:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid

can you show a dyno sheet for us to see the gains of before and after?

11th februari we have a dyno day with all kinds of MINI's, also standard. I have also purchased AutoEnginuity to use on the dyno-day, so after 11th of Februari I should have lots of data to compare.

Revolution Mini Works · Jan 29th, 2006, 05:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Berthil

11th februari we have a dyno day with all kinds of MINI's, also standard. I have also purchased AutoEnginuity to use on the dyno-day, so after 11th of Februari I should have lots of data to compare.

that is super... but do you have a dyno that was done before the install?

Berthil · Jan 29th, 2006, 05:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid

that is super... but do you have a dyno that was done before the install?

Unfortunately not. The same dyno is used for every MINI on our dyno day. And I have asked everybody to get the 98 RON fuel. So I hope a good comparison can be made between stock and several tuned MINI's.

Revolution Mini Works · Jan 29th, 2006, 06:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Berthil

Unfortunately not. The same dyno is used for every MINI on our dyno day. And I have asked everybody to get the 98 RON fuel. So I hope a good comparison can be made between stock and several tuned MINI's.

so now you have no way to really know what the gain was or wasn't. Because if you have dyno'd many mini's you would know the numbers between stock minis is huge. bummer

Jan 10th, 2006, 09:12 PM	#1
M444SSY MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 02:27 PM Posts: 141 Offline	mth remap and manifold i knows theres been loads of threads been reading through a few. just wondered if this would be the best manifold to get and remap as my next mod. at the min the mods i have are alta cai grs intercooler forge 15 percent pulley superchips remap magnaflow cat back any help or experiences would be good cheers want the most out of my car also would doin a m7 bigger throttle body be of any help at all cheers

Jan 10th, 2006, 09:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Berthil MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sittard (NL) Local Time: 03:27 PM Posts: 743 Offline	I have the MTH Manifold and the tuner file that goes with it. I made the following steps: To Digi-Tec tuning (15 pulley): Huge improvement MTH tuner file: More power al lower revs, somewhat more at higher revs, not shocking Milltek catback: No noticable power gain, much better sound MTH Manifold and tuner file: BIG torque gain at lower revs, more power at higher revs. The sound together with the Milltek catback is awesome but loud. The torque gain because of the manifold is amazing. I can pull away smoothley from roundabouts at 1200 revs with three people in the car in 3rd gear. EB/W R53 MCS Highly Modified

Jan 28th, 2006, 08:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
supercharged99 clinton steenkamp Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: west yorkshire Local Time: 02:27 PM Posts: 325 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19 Berthill: is it the Manifold or the Catback that makes the big noise increase? the manifold makes the car loud ... yeeeeeehaaaaaaa DAMN THIS THING IS QUICK

Jan 28th, 2006, 09:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
Berthil MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sittard (NL) Local Time: 03:27 PM Posts: 743 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19 Berthill: is it the Manifold or the Catback that makes the big noise increase? The Milltek without Manifold wasn't loud, with MTH Manifold it's loud. It's the combination that makes it loud. A MTH Manifold with stock or JCW exhaust is ok. EB/W R53 MCS Highly Modified

Jan 29th, 2006, 04:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
Berthil MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sittard (NL) Local Time: 03:27 PM Posts: 743 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid can you show a dyno sheet for us to see the gains of before and after? 11th februari we have a dyno day with all kinds of MINI's, also standard. I have also purchased AutoEnginuity to use on the dyno-day, so after 11th of Februari I should have lots of data to compare. EB/W R53 MCS Highly Modified

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Jan 10th, 2006, 09:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
M444SSY MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 02:27 PM Posts: 141 Offline	would you say its 1 of the better manifolds onthe market then theres so much choice with veiws for and against all products its just so confusing lol

Jan 11th, 2006, 12:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
M444SSY MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 02:27 PM Posts: 141 Offline	any 1 any help

Jan 27th, 2006, 09:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 02:27 PM Posts: 3,831 Offline	Berthill: is it the Manifold or the Catback that makes the big noise increase?

Jan 28th, 2006, 08:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 02:27 PM Posts: 3,831 Offline	lol ok I won't be getting a replacement manifold then

Jan 29th, 2006, 02:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
Revolution Mini Works Mini2 Sponsor & Tuner Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 06:27 AM Posts: 951 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Berthil I have the MTH Manifold and the tuner file that goes with it. I made the following steps: To Digi-Tec tuning (15 pulley): Huge improvement MTH tuner file: More power al lower revs, somewhat more at higher revs, not shocking Milltek catback: No noticable power gain, much better sound MTH Manifold and tuner file: BIG torque gain at lower revs, more power at higher revs. The sound together with the Milltek catback is awesome but loud. The torque gain because of the manifold is amazing. I can pull away smoothley from roundabouts at 1200 revs with three people in the car in 3rd gear. can you show a dyno sheet for us to see the gains of before and after? thanks

Jan 29th, 2006, 05:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
Revolution Mini Works Mini2 Sponsor & Tuner Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 06:27 AM Posts: 951 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Berthil 11th februari we have a dyno day with all kinds of MINI's, also standard. I have also purchased AutoEnginuity to use on the dyno-day, so after 11th of Februari I should have lots of data to compare. that is super... but do you have a dyno that was done before the install?

Jan 29th, 2006, 05:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
Berthil MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sittard (NL) Local Time: 03:27 PM Posts: 743 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid that is super... but do you have a dyno that was done before the install? Unfortunately not. The same dyno is used for every MINI on our dyno day. And I have asked everybody to get the 98 RON fuel. So I hope a good comparison can be made between stock and several tuned MINI's. EB/W R53 MCS Highly Modified

Jan 29th, 2006, 06:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
Revolution Mini Works Mini2 Sponsor & Tuner Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 06:27 AM Posts: 951 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Berthil Unfortunately not. The same dyno is used for every MINI on our dyno day. And I have asked everybody to get the 98 RON fuel. So I hope a good comparison can be made between stock and several tuned MINI's. so now you have no way to really know what the gain was or wasn't. Because if you have dyno'd many mini's you would know the numbers between stock minis is huge. bummer

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