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hotlemon · Jan 23rd, 2006, 05:19 PM

Hi,

This might be a really stupid question but I was just wondering if you can fit a Supercharger to a standard mini cooper. If so why not?

Cheers

RedUn · Jan 23rd, 2006, 08:32 PM

in theory yes you could but the cost would be so high it'd be cheaper and easier to buy a Cooper S

Rakey · Jan 23rd, 2006, 08:40 PM

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...superchar ger

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...superchar ger

its been asked before, but no-one has done it as it is not worth it cost wise

RedUn · Jan 23rd, 2006, 08:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...superchar ger

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...superchar ger

its been asked before, but no-one has done it as it is not worth it cost wise

to be pedantic I do know of some one who put a cooper s engine in their cooper, i know it's not exactly bolting the supercharger on but it's been done

Rakey · Jan 23rd, 2006, 08:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RedUn

to be pedantic I do know of some one who put a cooper s engine in their cooper, i know it's not exactly bolting the supercharger on but it's been done

ah yeah, that is the only way to convert a cooper to an S, but this is about sticking a supoer charger on a Cooper engine, smart ****

Cooper S Ire · Jan 23rd, 2006, 08:51 PM

No it cant be done properly because the compression ratios for a Cooper and a Cooper S are different,
Cooper CR 10.5/1
Cooper S CR 8.33/1
you would have to run very high octane fuel,
also retard the timing a lot to prevent knock.

gedubya · Jan 23rd, 2006, 08:58 PM

When you buy a John Cooper Works kit you get a new head and supercharger to fit. The parts taken off are legally the owner's. Therefore you may be able to buy the old parts from someone who has them in their garage at home. This may be a cheaper way of you converting your car.

RedUn · Jan 23rd, 2006, 09:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey

ah yeah, that is the only way to convert a cooper to an S, but this is about sticking a supoer charger on a Cooper engine, smart ****

hehehe

Rakey · Jan 23rd, 2006, 09:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by gedubya

When you buy a John Cooper Works kit you get a new head and supercharger to fit. The parts taken off are legally the owner's. Therefore you may be able to buy the old parts from someone who has them in their garage at home. This may be a cheaper way of you converting your car.

but seeing as the cooper gear box has a problem staying together with a cooper engine on it do you think it would handle the power of a MCS?

Lohen · Jan 23rd, 2006, 10:55 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by gedubya

When you buy a John Cooper Works kit you get a new head and supercharger to fit. The parts taken off are legally the owner's. Therefore you may be able to buy the old parts from someone who has them in their garage at home. This may be a cheaper way of you converting your car.

Well that theoreticly sounds right, but you also need all the other stuff (cooler, injection, inlet bits, ecu, blah blah blah ... basicly half a cooper s engine) by the time you are done buying the parts you have the cost of a coopers s, so there is hardly any point. However if you spent that cash on upgrading your naturally aspirated cooper to about 150 bhp, you would have a car that will be pretty close to the cooper s in power.

That is by far the more realistic approach...

Andrey

Jan 23rd, 2006, 05:19 PM	#1
hotlemon MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Local Time: 09:08 AM Posts: 4 Offline	Fitting a supercharger to a mini cooper Hi, This might be a really stupid question but I was just wondering if you can fit a Supercharger to a standard mini cooper. If so why not? Cheers

Jan 23rd, 2006, 08:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rakey Four Candles? My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hardware Shop Local Time: 10:08 AM Posts: 51,172 Offline	http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...superchar ger http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...superchar ger its been asked before, but no-one has done it as it is not worth it cost wise The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?
http://www.mini2.com/forum/

Jan 23rd, 2006, 08:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rakey Four Candles? My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hardware Shop Local Time: 10:08 AM Posts: 51,172 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by RedUn to be pedantic I do know of some one who put a cooper s engine in their cooper, i know it's not exactly bolting the supercharger on but it's been done ah yeah, that is the only way to convert a cooper to an S, but this is about sticking a supoer charger on a Cooper engine, smart **** The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

Jan 23rd, 2006, 08:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
gedubya mini baby boomer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Auckland, NZ Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 15 Offline	Retrofit supercharger When you buy a John Cooper Works kit you get a new head and supercharger to fit. The parts taken off are legally the owner's. Therefore you may be able to buy the old parts from someone who has them in their garage at home. This may be a cheaper way of you converting your car.

Jan 23rd, 2006, 09:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rakey Four Candles? My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hardware Shop Local Time: 10:08 AM Posts: 51,172 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by gedubya When you buy a John Cooper Works kit you get a new head and supercharger to fit. The parts taken off are legally the owner's. Therefore you may be able to buy the old parts from someone who has them in their garage at home. This may be a cheaper way of you converting your car. but seeing as the cooper gear box has a problem staying together with a cooper engine on it do you think it would handle the power of a MCS? The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

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Jan 23rd, 2006, 08:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 10:08 AM Posts: 11,615 Offline	in theory yes you could but the cost would be so high it'd be cheaper and easier to buy a Cooper S

Jan 23rd, 2006, 08:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 10:08 AM Posts: 11,615 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...superchar ger http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...superchar ger its been asked before, but no-one has done it as it is not worth it cost wise to be pedantic I do know of some one who put a cooper s engine in their cooper, i know it's not exactly bolting the supercharger on but it's been done

Jan 23rd, 2006, 08:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cooper S Ire MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kildare Local Time: 09:08 AM Posts: 192 Offline	No it cant be done properly because the compression ratios for a Cooper and a Cooper S are different, Cooper CR 10.5/1 Cooper S CR 8.33/1 you would have to run very high octane fuel, also retard the timing a lot to prevent knock.

Jan 23rd, 2006, 09:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 10:08 AM Posts: 11,615 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey ah yeah, that is the only way to convert a cooper to an S, but this is about sticking a supoer charger on a Cooper engine, smart **** hehehe

Jan 23rd, 2006, 10:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Lohen New Mini Specialists Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Staffordshire, UK Local Time: 10:08 AM Posts: 840 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by gedubya When you buy a John Cooper Works kit you get a new head and supercharger to fit. The parts taken off are legally the owner's. Therefore you may be able to buy the old parts from someone who has them in their garage at home. This may be a cheaper way of you converting your car. Well that theoreticly sounds right, but you also need all the other stuff (cooler, injection, inlet bits, ecu, blah blah blah ... basicly half a cooper s engine) by the time you are done buying the parts you have the cost of a coopers s, so there is hardly any point. However if you spent that cash on upgrading your naturally aspirated cooper to about 150 bhp, you would have a car that will be pretty close to the cooper s in power. That is by far the more realistic approach... Andrey New MINI Specialists www.lohen.co.uk

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