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MarkW19 · Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:06 PM

Hi guys,

I'm thinking about maybe doing some performance mods on my '03 Cooper.

I've just done a Typhoon so far (bit of a difference but minor) and Magnex exhaust (but took it off 'cos I didn't like the extra noise, and it didn't increase the power much at all

).

I'm hoping to get a good bit more acceleration in 2nd/3rd/4th, and also (if possible) more torque in 3rd/4th, but more acceleration is more important

Ive looked into Superchips etc., but they only provide marginal barely noticeable gains, so I'm looking at maybe a full performance package from somwhere.

The question is, what package, and where from? I'm in Leeds if that makes any difference!

I'd be looking to spend up to £1500 inc. vat and fitting.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Rakey · Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:10 PM

check out the sponsors directory on here, there are a few great companies in there that should be able to give you the advice and work you want

the_hitman86 · Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:12 PM

didn't there used to be a JCW Cooper kit? like the one for the MCS but ... for a cooper.

MarkW19 · Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:15 PM

Cheers Rakey I'll have a look!

There did used to be a JCW Cooper Kit, but it didnt really do much!

RedUn · Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19

Hi guys,

I'm thinking about maybe doing some performance mods on my '03 Cooper.

I've just done a Typhoon so far (bit of a difference but minor) and Magnex exhaust (but took it off 'cos I didn't like the extra noise, and it didn't increase the power much at all

).

I'm hoping to get a good bit more acceleration in 2nd/3rd/4th, and also (if possible) more torque in 3rd/4th, but more acceleration is more important

Ive looked into Superchips etc., but they only provide marginal barely noticeable gains, so I'm looking at maybe a full performance package from somwhere.

The question is, what package, and where from? I'm in Leeds if that makes any difference!

I'd be looking to spend up to £1500 inc. vat and fitting.

Anyone have any suggestions?

check out the lohen "LO2"

140bhp for under 1200 fitted

apart from that I know minisport do a 145bhp kit but I think thats fairly pricey as it includes a head and cam

the_hitman86 · Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:17 PM

they still have a noise package that basically just makes the exhaust louder. not max power chav louder but u get the point

MarkW19 · Jan 24th, 2006, 09:12 PM

As a guide approx. what BHP do you think my Cooper would be at now, with just the K&N Typhoon added (and lighter Toyo T1S Tyres) and nothing else performance/engine-wise alterered?

venox22 · Jan 24th, 2006, 09:47 PM

Get an MTH Re-Map very very good, good customer relations, good value and can be altered to different mods

MarkW19 · Jan 24th, 2006, 10:47 PM

Venox: what does the MTH do then on the Cooper? How big an increase in acceleration will I see?

I take it you need a Windows laptop to use it? I've got a Mac...

MarkW19 · Jan 24th, 2006, 11:24 PM

venox: you had problems with the MTH not doing anything at first didn't you? How did you rectify this?

Oz-i · Jan 25th, 2006, 09:40 AM

Get yourself a MTH sports manifold icw the remap. Significant increase in torque. That is what makes you accelerate. Check with the UK sponsor side.

I also noted that a dyno day is being organised. Don't know whether that is convenient for you to go to, but this could be the occasion to check out the different options and results.

Dyno day topic: http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-drivetrain-tuning/107608-dyno-day-2nd-april-every-mini-welcome.html

ctdworks · Jan 26th, 2006, 03:50 AM

Mini Madness I know has a package I think it is 155 hp and it looks ok. Also MTH has a 160 hp package if I am not mistaken. I haven't tried any of them so I can't tell you wether they are good or bad, but its worth checking them out. I hope that helps you a bit

MINI-Morgan · Jan 26th, 2006, 01:48 PM

Personally i'd go to Roland at GTT and ask what he can provide. But closer to you there is Lohen that can provide some good upgrades.

Cooper_si · Jan 26th, 2006, 01:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ctdworks

...Also MTH has a 160 hp package if I am not mistaken.,,,

very true....not out as yet, but due soon

160 BHP kit for ONE and COOPER

The kit consists of:
new cylinder head (no exchange and working on used parts) with bigger
valves and slightly higher compression ratio for better fuel
consumption, our own cam (not JCW, not Schrick), manifold, air filter,
fuel cooler, special software

...all developed by a very HIGHLY respected GERMAN TUNER....

CWaldie · Jan 26th, 2006, 04:49 PM

I just spoke to both my dealer and JCW, they will still fit the original cooper works kit if your mini is before 04. Approx £2500 for 126BHP

MarkW19 · Jan 26th, 2006, 06:44 PM

JCW kit would be cool for the name only, but v. overpriced!

Si: any idea how much all that lot will cos inc. fitting and what sort of gains in acceleration and torque I'd see? Any increase in noise? What does "no exchange and working on used parts" mean?

The "special software" is no doubt your MTH ECU remap adapted to all the new goodies?

Ell P · Jan 26th, 2006, 06:52 PM

do mth have a website?

MarkW19 · Jan 26th, 2006, 07:08 PM

mth-powerchip.de

Ell P · Jan 26th, 2006, 07:27 PM

cheers mate

Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:06 PM	#1
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	Cooper tuning packages Hi guys, I'm thinking about maybe doing some performance mods on my '03 Cooper. I've just done a Typhoon so far (bit of a difference but minor) and Magnex exhaust (but took it off 'cos I didn't like the extra noise, and it didn't increase the power much at all ). I'm hoping to get a good bit more acceleration in 2nd/3rd/4th, and also (if possible) more torque in 3rd/4th, but more acceleration is more important Ive looked into Superchips etc., but they only provide marginal barely noticeable gains, so I'm looking at maybe a full performance package from somwhere. The question is, what package, and where from? I'm in Leeds if that makes any difference! I'd be looking to spend up to £1500 inc. vat and fitting. Anyone have any suggestions?

Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rakey Remember My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 09:36 PM Posts: 50,029 Offline	check out the sponsors directory on here, there are a few great companies in there that should be able to give you the advice and work you want The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

Jan 25th, 2006, 09:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
Oz-i Keep on Coopering Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Low Land Paradise Local Time: 11:36 PM Posts: 73 Offline	Get yourself a MTH sports manifold icw the remap. Significant increase in torque. That is what makes you accelerate. Check with the UK sponsor side. I also noted that a dyno day is being organised. Don't know whether that is convenient for you to go to, but this could be the occasion to check out the different options and results. Dyno day topic: http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-drivetrain-tuning/107608-dyno-day-2nd-april-every-mini-welcome.html Emergency procedure: put head between your legs, and kiss your ass goodbye.

Jan 26th, 2006, 03:50 AM	#12 (permalink)
ctdworks MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Local Time: 04:36 PM Posts: 3 Offline	mini madness Mini Madness I know has a package I think it is 155 hp and it looks ok. Also MTH has a 160 hp package if I am not mistaken. I haven't tried any of them so I can't tell you wether they are good or bad, but its worth checking them out. I hope that helps you a bit

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Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
the_hitman86 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Glasgow Local Time: 09:36 PM Posts: 128 Offline	didn't there used to be a JCW Cooper kit? like the one for the MCS but ... for a cooper.

Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	Cheers Rakey I'll have a look! There did used to be a JCW Cooper Kit, but it didnt really do much!

Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 11,504 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19 Hi guys, I'm thinking about maybe doing some performance mods on my '03 Cooper. I've just done a Typhoon so far (bit of a difference but minor) and Magnex exhaust (but took it off 'cos I didn't like the extra noise, and it didn't increase the power much at all ). I'm hoping to get a good bit more acceleration in 2nd/3rd/4th, and also (if possible) more torque in 3rd/4th, but more acceleration is more important Ive looked into Superchips etc., but they only provide marginal barely noticeable gains, so I'm looking at maybe a full performance package from somwhere. The question is, what package, and where from? I'm in Leeds if that makes any difference! I'd be looking to spend up to £1500 inc. vat and fitting. Anyone have any suggestions? check out the lohen "LO2" 140bhp for under 1200 fitted apart from that I know minisport do a 145bhp kit but I think thats fairly pricey as it includes a head and cam

Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
the_hitman86 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Glasgow Local Time: 09:36 PM Posts: 128 Offline	they still have a noise package that basically just makes the exhaust louder. not max power chav louder but u get the point

Jan 24th, 2006, 09:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	As a guide approx. what BHP do you think my Cooper would be at now, with just the K&N Typhoon added (and lighter Toyo T1S Tyres) and nothing else performance/engine-wise alterered?

Jan 24th, 2006, 09:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
venox22 only the brave! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lincs Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 1,290 Offline	Get an MTH Re-Map very very good, good customer relations, good value and can be altered to different mods

Jan 24th, 2006, 10:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	Venox: what does the MTH do then on the Cooper? How big an increase in acceleration will I see? I take it you need a Windows laptop to use it? I've got a Mac...

Jan 24th, 2006, 11:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	venox: you had problems with the MTH not doing anything at first didn't you? How did you rectify this?

Jan 26th, 2006, 01:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
Cooper_si the DASH LIGHT king ? ;) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nr Melton Mowbray Local Time: 09:36 PM Posts: 488 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ctdworks ...Also MTH has a 160 hp package if I am not mistaken.,,, very true....not out as yet, but due soon 160 BHP kit for ONE and COOPER The kit consists of: new cylinder head (no exchange and working on used parts) with bigger valves and slightly higher compression ratio for better fuel consumption, our own cam (not JCW, not Schrick), manifold, air filter, fuel cooler, special software ...all developed by a very HIGHLY respected GERMAN TUNER.... THE Legend who helps ALL MINI owners

Jan 26th, 2006, 04:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
CWaldie MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Attleborough Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 75 Offline	I just spoke to both my dealer and JCW, they will still fit the original cooper works kit if your mini is before 04. Approx £2500 for 126BHP

Jan 26th, 2006, 06:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	JCW kit would be cool for the name only, but v. overpriced! Si: any idea how much all that lot will cos inc. fitting and what sort of gains in acceleration and torque I'd see? Any increase in noise? What does "no exchange and working on used parts" mean? The "special software" is no doubt your MTH ECU remap adapted to all the new goodies?

Jan 26th, 2006, 06:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
Ell P CATCH ME BLINGING!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 09:36 PM Posts: 346 Offline	do mth have a website?

Jan 26th, 2006, 07:08 PM	#18 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 3,622 Offline	mth-powerchip.de

Jan 26th, 2006, 07:27 PM	#19 (permalink)
Ell P CATCH ME BLINGING!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 09:36 PM Posts: 346 Offline	cheers mate

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